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Not sure about a sticky
but it is relatively straight-forward :)
open fahmon
right-click in the left pane and select 'add a new client'
type in a random name (doesnt affect folding at all - is just for Fahmon)
click on the box next to 'location'
and browse to the folder in which you have the folding program installed
select 'OK'
A couple of things i like to have set:
Click on the FahMon button (top left hand corner)
select 'preferences'
on the general tab
make sure 'enable system tray icon' and 'start minimised' are checked
Click on the 'Monitoring' button - (next to the 'FahMon' button)
and select 'show/hide Fahlog'
If you place a shortcut to Fahmon in your startup folder; it will automatically start in the system tray and you will just have to click on the icon to keep an eye on your folding progress.
good luck
Fold on :major
Not sure about a sticky
but it is relatively straight-forward :)
open fahmon
right-click in the left pane and select 'add a new client'
type in a random name (doesnt affect folding at all - is just for Fahmon)
click on the box next to 'location'
and browse to the folder in which you have the folding program installed
select 'OK'
A couple of things i like to have set:
Click on the FahMon button (top left hand corner)
select 'preferences'
on the general tab
make sure 'enable system tray icon' and 'start minimised' are checked
Click on the 'Monitoring' button - (next to the 'FahMon' button)
and select 'show/hide Fahlog'
If you place a shortcut to Fahmon in your startup folder; it will automatically start in the system tray and you will just have to click on the icon to keep an eye on your folding progress.
good luck
Fold on :major
Thank shanemail...
This particular single post you posted would make a good sticky!
I bookmarked it to firefox and opera... and del.icio.us...
I know I will come back to it, as I messed up ,,,
I think I have too many half finished or/and corrupted F@H files,
:cry I just hate staring over, after 3 days with no WU's but halfway there.
rolleyes
I started with console, switched to graphics, back to console...:banghead
I make a lot of progress for one day, then I get impatient and try to improve, and I messed it up.
But I am bound and determined to get it right!:highfive
It gets a lot easier once you have everything how you want it :)
Been there, done that rolleyes :-D
I found it easier to just get rid of everything to do with Folding, and start again - it tends to get a bit messy otherwise.
either way - good luck :)
I have some 128MB RAM computers, Celeron and Pentium III, Win98. I had extra RAM for the Pentium III, but :o don't remember where I put it, and am thinking of installing Linux/Unix on it. Are these systems too low to work? If not, I also have a Win98 40MB Pentium. lol
Also, it gets disconnected once in a while, and the bandwidth is only 21-38kbps thanks to the ISP. I was wondering if a wu is transferred in frames, or as a full wu that would need to download all at once, or some other way? If it needs more than about a dozen MB per segment, it might get cut off.
Does it sound like I might not be able to contribute effectively, at least at the moment?
do we get points for work units finished or for work time?
they have just hit me with a WU that finishes in December!
You get points for the Work Unit. Sounds like December is the deadline for the work to be done, not the time it will take you to do it. Have you downloaded FahMon yet? http://fahmon.net/ Did not see it on the MGeeks site...
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Been having a few issues with my internet but it's now ok have just downloaded fahmon but have no idea what it does????
when i try to run it it says "can not config"
OK Fred i got it to run i have to use admin privileges but at the moment i get no details i suppose it takes time to get those.
will check from time to time
Hi Bill :wave
Here is a bit of a guide I posted to using FahMon in this thread (http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1182963&postcount=1557)
hope it helps :)
OK Shane got it thanks:)
i have not been folding for a while but now with the new PC and a quad cpu i hope i can add some points to our total.
OK Shane got it thanks:)
i have not been folding for a while but now with the new PC and a quad cpu i hope i can add some points to our total.
For a Quad, try the SMP client http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther
You get more points with the SMP running than 4 instances of the regular folding client running. And don't forget to see if your video card is supported. Dang video cards fold spooky fast! :-D
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For a Quad, try the SMP client http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther
You get more points with the SMP running than 4 instances of the regular folding client running. And don't forget to see if your video card is supported. Dang video cards fold spooky fast! :-D
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ok thats done thanks Fred especially that you fold for another team:clap
In the end we are all on the same team Bill! I am always up for some inter team smack talk, but don't mind helping. This is a computer help site...:-D
Plus you will need a lot more than one puny Quad to beat my PPD!;)
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do we get points for work units finished or for work time?
they have just hit me with a WU that finishes in December!
@ BILLMC66-
some WU's are only 8 points, I had one that was 119 points.
As far as I can figure so far, you get rated in the standings more for WU's than for points.
A WU with more points probably takes longer.
I dunno for sure, I'm kind of new to this.
One thing I figured out is when it 1st starts a new WU, the estimate is higher than what it will be, and if your PC is idle and F@H runs alone, then estimated time of completion (ETC) ...
will shorten dramatically.
If you play games all day or download a bunch of music, i.e, and you use most CPU time yourself,
then F@H will re-estimate ETC to a far-away date.
Then when you sleep or go to work, F@H re-estimates ETC to a sooner date.
I guess it takes an average of how long since WU started vs how much progress has been made and calculates it with a computer rolleyes
So, the longer you run the WU, the closer will be the estimate to reality...
Bottem line is when it takes a long time you will end up with a lot of points per WU, and a quicky will give you a fast WU with few points.
@ dnnyo
I have not seen a WU that is 8 points. You might want to check your logs and make sure you are not getting any EUE's (early unit end). I searched the Stanford site and found this: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html
There is one that is worth .1 points (WTF?) and a few that are 15 points. I could be wrong, just check your logs and make sure they are getting to 100% before sending results.
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@ dnnyo
I have not seen a WU that is 8 points. You might want to check your logs and make sure you are not getting any EUE's (early unit end). I searched the Stanford site and found this: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html
There is one that is worth .1 points (WTF?) and a few that are 15 points. I could be wrong, just check your logs and make sure they are getting to 100% before sending results.
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I double checked and I must have been looking at average points or something. I did get one that was 1 point, probably like you said : EUE
I was having frequent PC crashes before I got rid of some malware, and I also switched from graphics to console and back to graphics meanwhile.:banghead
I also got 4 WU's that were 15 points, and a few over 100's points/WU.
Also I was running anonymously by mistake rolleyes for a week and wondered why I was getting no points. (That's when I went back to graphics)
EMIII skin on the way (not that anyone uses it anyway!)
http://www.nicholaslidster.plus.com/mg-emiii.jpg
Is there a link to get this?:confused
Hello dnnyo
There was a zip file back on an earlier page in this thread from the original poster, if for some reason my link doesn't work, it was on page 4.
I've not seen him post in a while and I've not seen any evidence of it (EMIII) being used by many on the folding forum at stanford. Presumably it works ok. I don't know for sure.
I did also find a zip file at the second link. HTH - paramonks
http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=958682#post958682
http://www.mitsimonsta.net/software/
dnnyo, FahMon is a very nice program. http://fahmon.net/ (I did not see it on MajorGeeks.com?!) You can monitor all the computers folding on your network, and it has a nice PPD function. You can see what each machine is getting, and what your total is.
:-D
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I am not sure if this is correct or i have not set it up properly but although i am using a quad i only show 2 processors running????
Are you running the SMP Bill? If you are, it uses all the CPU cores to work on one WU, so it would show up as one CPU. FahMon is the best way to monitor your Folding. http://fahmon.net/
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this is all it shows on fahmon as for SMP i am not sure how to see if i am running it??
its been showing 36% for days now
Hi Bill :)
Under 'ETA' in your screenshot it shows 'Hung'
For some reason your 'work unit' is not being processed?
Its not often that this happens to me, but it does happen
All I do is restart the F@H service
Start - Run - services.msc
scroll down to 'FAH@C:+Program Files+Folding@ etc'
Select 'Restart' the service
you may (or may not) notice a delay before FahMon registers that you are (hopefully) folding again
Not sure what SMP is like, but...
If you right click (in FahMon) within the client details in the top left pane (35% Bill Hung --)
you will be able to select 'view client files'
this opens up your F@H installation directory
If you open up the 'fahlog.txt' file - it should say what version of the client you are using
thanks Shane and Fred
'FAH@C:+Program Files+Folding@ etc' does not show in my services files(see screenshot of all Fs
Bill, does your SMP start up automaticly or do you have to start it when you restart your computer? Mine will 'Hang' every once in a while. I just restart it and it usually starts right back up.
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Bill, does your SMP start up automaticly or do you have to start it when you restart your computer? Mine will 'Hang' every once in a while. I just restart it and it usually starts right back up.
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I am not sure Fred to be honest i do not know how to restart it?
I am getting very frustrated with this fahmon is still HUNG after 36 hours and i am now showing only 1 cpu but i am still working according to the small icon on the task bar.
also when i open fahmon it give a popup "searching for updates" and then says "cannot connect to server"
i am seriously considering deleting the whole thing and starting again with a new set up.
Which folding client are you using Bill? I have to start my SMP manually by clicking on an icon. Sucks when I restart the computer and forget it, but it makes clearing a hung unit easy!
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Which folding client are you using Bill? I have to start my SMP manually by clicking on an icon. Sucks when I restart the computer and forget it, but it makes clearing a hung unit easy!
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sorry Fred i don't understand "which client" how do i find it please:confused
If you navigate to the folding at home installation folder; you will find the client
mine is:
C:\Program Files\Folding@Home\FAH6.10beta3-win32-x86
and the client is:
fah6-win32-x86.exe
if you find and post the client details we will be on the right track :)
You will be able to find the info a bit easier (if the client is running) by going to 'windows task manager' (Ctrl-Alt-Delete) - processes tab
There should be 2 references to folding there.
I am beginning to feel a little bit stupid here this should not be difficult but for some reason i can not get it down.
i found this so i hope it's what you need.
C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Dont know how many times i stuffed it up - would be a few though ;)
Its a bit different ;)
Once it is running well, you tend to forget it is there
You are running the SMP client
Hopefully Fred_G or someone else who runs it will be able to advise you on the best way to run it as a service :confused :)
Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Delete to see if it is running ?
augiedoggie
07-28-08, 10:54
sorry Fred i don't understand "which client" how do i find it please:confused
Fancy word for which 'software version'.
i also have this in the message file so it seems they have seen it at stanford i just hope someone can get this back on track.
Ouch! Did it hurt when they reloaded you? :-D
By version, I mean which one did you download?
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@ Fred and Shane i have got it running again, i deleted the client and went through the reload procedure and it started up.
i do not know if it will start up automatically if i re-boot will have to see later.
i see we have dropped out of the top 100 "WE NEED FOLDER'S"
i hope my bit helps.
As far as I can figure so far, you get rated in the standings more for WU's than for points.
A WU with more points probably takes longer.
After further review, I correct myself...
The standings are listed according to points, not WU's.
:banghead :o
Well i spoke too soon it's gone back to the same situation "HUNG" at 36%
so it's back to the drawing board!
Bill, can you post a link to the client you are downloading? And are you overclocking by any chance? You might want to run MemTest to make sure your RAM is not stupid.
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Hi Fred
1 no i am not overclocking
2 i have 2 gb ram plus booster cache 2 gb
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=12072.
i hope that's what you need.
ps thanks for your patience with this dummy.
I would run MemTest: http://www.majorgeeks.com/MemTest_d350.html (There are several versions)
And maybe P95: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html
They are just to make sure there is no problem with your computer. Which folding client are you using?
Here are some: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download
And the SMP one is here: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther
Looks like they have updated the clients since I started the SMP, I may need to update mine.
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i ran memtest and no errors
my client info C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01 and
downloaded client.
I was looking at Fred's link to learn about SMP (I don't know what it is),
I like this line at the end of "set-up" faq's:
How dare you make it so simple for almost everyone, bring back the pain and suffering!!!
The CPU and GPU console clients are still available, enjoy the pain. For suffering try the Windows SMP client.
augiedoggie
07-29-08, 10:32
@Fred, all I can say is that's still a beta client unless I missed something. I would just run a console version and three as a service if the CPU doesn't get too hot. This SMP doesn't look ready for prime time yet.
EDIT: LOL @ ddnyo.rolleyes Hmm.
But Augie, the beta gives you more better points... When I set mine up the first time, it was confusing. But if you just follow the instructions, it works.
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I ran P95 (it took 12 hours) but the quad passed on all counts,so the PC is OK.
although it is still stuck on 36% it is running again.
I have left the PC alone all day just to see what happens and the SMP client is hung again but when i look in the messages file it is trying to reload without success. when i left this morning it was running.
So what is the status on it Bill? You might just want to uninstall and reinstall. You can run 4 console clients on a quad, and you should get a little over 1k PPD. The SMP should have you around 1.8k or so PPD. With all the hassle, you have had, 4 console clients should be a breeze.:cool
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Cat_w_9_lives
07-30-08, 22:06
Check Task Manager, are there more than one FAH process running? Do you have another user running FAH maybe? I had a WU hang when I was running the Console but only remember changing something in a file that fixed it.
See if you have a file like logfile_07.txt
Contains something like this: (might give a clue)
Core C
Version 1.00 (Thu Apr 24 19:12:09 PDT 2008)
Preparing to commence simulation
- Files status OK
- Expanded 1207565 -> 3336245 (decompressed 276.2 percent)
Project: 3855 (Run 35, Clone 2, Gen 7)
Assembly optimizations on if available.
Entering M.D.
Will resume from checkpoint file
Working on p3851_fkbprelative_complex
Completed 0 out of 200000 steps (0%)
Extra SSE2 boost OK
Resuming from checkpoint
Verified work/wudata_07.log
Verified work/wudata_07.edr
Verified work/wudata_07.xvg
Verified work/wudata_07.trr
Verified work/wudata_07.xtc
Completed 31276 out of 200000 steps (15%)
Completed 32000 out of 200000 steps (16%)
Timer requesting checkpoint
Completed 34000 out of 200000 steps (17%)
Timer requesting checkpoint
@ Cat+Fred
i have only 1 process running and i am the only user.
what is a little strange is that the PC is left on over night and in the morning it is running even though it is still stuck on 36% but i am accumulating points and completing WUs (currently 10) so maybe i will just leave it alone for a while as you can see from attachment the ETA is tomorrow at 09.49 so i will wait and see what happens after that.
also i think it has something to do with the asynchronous clock if i uncheck the box to ignore it goes straight to HUNG.
Very strange Bill. I had to look up what the blue box in FahMon means... http://trac.fahmon.net/wiki/MonitoringClients You might want to reinstall FahMon. :confused
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OK Fred i just had a look and it's hung again.
i will reinstall Fahmon.
@ Augie i have stopped trying with SMP.
can you help me get the best out of my quad, you know i am dumb so can you walk me through it
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1025/23295226md5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I am having problems with mine as well Bill. I reinstalled the SMP and I am getting 250 PPD??? On a Q6600 overclocked?! Heck, my Dell 1.49GHz craptop gets 150 PPD! :crap
I am a bit frustrated, to say the least. I have reinstalled the freaking SMP using the DeinoMPI, whatever that is. Too early to tell what it will do.
Bill, If I were you, I would just use 4 of the regular console clients. http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download Install the second one. When you start them, do it in a folder on your desktop, and create, in that folder, 4 folders. Say one folder on your desktop called F@H, with 4 folders in it, Console 1, Console 2, Console 3, Console 4... I am confusing myself! Copy the FAH client into each folder, run it, enter your name, team # and somewere in there it will ask for a machine ID. Use 1 for the first, 2 for the second...
Anyway, run it 4 times, the first time, use Machine ID 1, then 2-4 so each client has a Machine ID. Once it is setup, it should start itself when you restart your computer, and should need no more work from you. Untill they change the FREAKING THING!:-D Sorry, I usually run the Betas, which do change more often than the regular ones.
Use the FahMon to make sure it is working. I will post back if the DeinoMPI thingy works any better.
Kinda early, my brain is not fully awake, sorry if I made any errors.
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augiedoggie
08-02-08, 09:38
@ Augie i have stopped trying with SMP.
can you help me get the best out of my quad, you know i am dumb so can you walk me through it
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1025/23295226md5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
LOL, Fred posted a decent guide above. I just have a couple of things to add here. Do NOT change the default browser settings, also only add one client at a time and monitor your CPU temps, just in case it gets too hot. I run an A/C unit in my room during the summer just to keep the heat down on my AMD X2. I should be getting my new mobo on or soon after the 11nth so I'll try the SMP on my Q6600(new build). I searched their forums but nothing much came up in this regard. I'll keep ya'll posted when I get the beast up and running.:)
I'm right behind you BillMcC66,,, LOL, (don't look back).
I tried Fahmon and I guess I messed up, no fault to Shanemail or Fred G,
I know I messed up myself.
Anyway I like the looks of Electron Microscope 3, and :clap suprise, suprise! :celebrate
I actually got it installed and working!
now understand that I have been from console to graphics... back to console, graphics again, and now console again.
I think I deserve the prize for dumbest Folder, not you Bill!
So, I am letting it run and it's not so fast, perhaps because my Gigahertz is only 1.3?
My son says that isn't so important.
maybe not when it comes to e-mail or music, but when using 100% of CPU doing folding, I think it matters.
I'm considering study of overclocking.
I had malware last month, but now it's been over a month with no crash. (thanks Abri!)
One more question @ Fred or ?...
my checkpoint interval is at 15 minutes. I set that a long time ago when I had frequent crashes. I want to reset it to max... like 30 minutes. I forgot how.
I remember reading a post about it, but ... search?
OK, here is a couple screenshots of my Electron microscope 3...:-D
augiedoggie
08-05-08, 11:53
my checkpoint interval is at 15 minutes. I set that a long time ago when I had frequent crashes. I want to reset it to max... like 30 minutes. I forgot how.
If running graphical, rht-clk icon configure > advanced
Auggie, no, I'm using console again, and with electron microscope3 there is a way to look at my configuration, but it doesn't accept typing to change it there.:confused
Help is once again needed sorry!
folding stopped during the night and can not restart all i get is
"F@H Core download error #3 or 4.5.7.8.9 waiting before retry"
it has been like this all day.
@ dynno - Use this link for changing your console options.
http://fahwiki.net/index.php/How_do_I_reconfigure_the_console_client_options%3F
@Bill Stanford's servers might be out. You can check it here http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html If you can make sense of that mess! You can usually check the FAH site's forums for server status. http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=ddd19e9684109cf7cd3432d7e3e0d29c
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Everything seems to be OK now i got both PCs folding.
just one query, my XP machine the folding icon in the taskbar is the red gearwheel but on my Vista machine it's a lot of coloured molecules stuck together and i am sure i loaded the same on both machines?????
Click on thema and see Bill! Don't have any Vista stuff yet.
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OK guys i'm back with a new folding problem.
i have machines running folding,the laptop is OK but on my desktop with an ATI 2400 quad i have a GPU client and a CPU what i want to do is replace the CPU with another GPU (more points) but every time i download the new GPU it tells me that the GPU is already installed and will only let me repair or uninstall it.
what i need is an IDIOTS guide to replace the CPU client.
sorry to be areal pain in the http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1213_mooning.gif (http://www.clipartof.com) but i am trying hard to get the max points for the team.
Well i am still not sure if i have got everything right but i must be getting close, i got into the top 20.
augiedoggie
08-27-08, 05:27
OK guys i'm back with a new folding problem.
i have machines running folding,the laptop is OK but on my desktop with an ATI 2400 quad i have a GPU client and a CPU what i want to do is replace the CPU with another GPU (more points) but every time i download the new GPU it tells me that the GPU is already installed and will only let me repair or uninstall it.
what i need is an IDIOTS guide to replace the CPU client.
sorry to be areal pain in the http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1213_mooning.gif (http://www.clipartof.com) but i am trying hard to get the max points for the team.
It's one client/GPU just like it's one client per CPU core.
OK Augie i hear yahttp://www.getsmile.com/emoticons/smileys-91853/_950/ear.gif will stop playing with it as it seems to be accumulating points for us.
Everything seems to be OK now i got both PCs folding.
just one query, my XP machine the folding icon in the taskbar is the red gearwheel but on my Vista machine it's a lot of coloured molecules stuck together and i am sure i loaded the same on both machines?????
Welcome to folding
My machines are the same so nothing to worry over.http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/218_science.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
I am not sure if this is normal but my points tally has fallen considerably in the last week.
I was constantly in the top ten folders but this week i am struggling to make 350 per day.
All three clients are doing wu of 5 and 10000 but the points are minimal :confused
Hey BILL,
You're gonna get some variance in what you pick up as WU's. Sometimes Stanford puts out a bunch that have small point values and your average falls.
Look at your last 7 week production at extreme overclocking (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=279635) and you'll see what I'm talking about. It will come back up sooner or later.
OK Ibmest i was just curious, thanks for the heads up http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/771_smiley_being_punched_through_his_computer_monitor.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
augiedoggie
10-01-08, 10:17
I am not sure if this is normal but my points tally has fallen considerably in the last week.
I was constantly in the top ten folders but this week i am struggling to make 350 per day.
All three clients are doing wu of 5 and 10000 but the points are minimal :confused
That is low for a quad running SMP MAICH2 as I'm getting an average PPD of 1.6K I only get two different Gromacs cores, one for 1920 and one for 1760 points at %100. There's something strange there as you should be getting 'big' WU's of a similar size as mine. Did you enter 'big' in the advanced options when you set up SMP? Oh, here's my recent folding chart (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=140887).
I hear what you say Augie, i am thinking of uninstalling everything and starting again.
i thought it was a bit low but did not have any thing to match it against.
augiedoggie
10-01-08, 11:16
You can see on my chart that at one point, Sept. 19 that I only had one WU for 15 points. At that stage I just killed everything and started clean and BOOM! the next day as you can see. BTW, MAICH2=MPICH2 Oh, make sure to have a temperature monitor installed to make sure you don't overheat. Mine was getting close to 60C so I installed a fan to blow straight on the CPU and it went down to 50C.:)
augiedoggie
10-01-08, 13:12
BTW Bill, can you please post your main specs, as I couldn't find them. CPU, memory size and video card are the only important ones. Usually, the video card is the faster of the two.
Fred_G has some heavy cards and his gets double the points instead of just using the CPU folding client. Your card must be compatible but there might be some conflicts. He has an ongoing thread here (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=579578) with no big resolution as of yet.
Just start folding with just the video card and see what you get compared to SMP figures. You got some decent points today so far but I'd still nuke what you have as as the history is showing nothing of consequence so far to lose.
I just bought a 9800GT video card but it won't be here for a couple of weeks, so my experience stops at CPU folding for now. I know I will kill the SMP core folding when I get the card and then try something on a core or two once it's stable.
Oh, my CPU is an Intel Q6600 just for reference.
I am curious what you will get PPD on that 9800 Augie. I plan on some shuffling around on the borgs this weekend. I have heard rumors that you can run 2 8800 cards on a crossfire mobo... Won't be like SLI or Crossfire, but folding is supposed to be possible. :-D
It will be overclocking weather here soon!
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I think i have posted what you want if you need more please let me know
Bill, is that Q6600 running at stock speed? :cry
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Bill, is that Q6600 running at stock speed? :cry
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Sure is Fred i have no idea about such things
augiedoggie
10-02-08, 10:51
Bill, is that Q6600 running at stock speed? :cry
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Hehehe, mine isn't OC'd yet either. I'll see what the heat from the new vid card does first, as it is now, the CPU is humming along at 50C with the mobo @ 25C running SMP@%100. I haven't OC'd much, I did fool around with the ASUS utility on an old Celeron box. Maybe I'll try the utility on this box, just for the heck of it.
I highly recommend aftermarket cooling for the Quad if you do play around with overclocking. Suckers run hot and the stock HS is a POS!:-D
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augiedoggie
10-02-08, 20:57
I highly recommend aftermarket cooling for the Quad if you do play around with overclocking. Suckers run hot and the stock HS is a POS!:-D
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Thanks for the warning Fred, I've already blown my wad for this year already so I'll hold off for now. Maybe I'll OC my X2 box instead but that one gets pretty hot too. We'll see.:)
Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble getting points, i have 5 processors running and am completing WUs but have had no points for 2 days.
check it out
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=BILLMCC66
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=279635
No problems here Bill. I almost got 20k PPD yesterday! :-D Check your logs for EUE's. If you have an unstable machine, or FAH just brainfarts, you can get an EUE, it shows a WU is finished, but you only get a couple of points for it.
Not that I have ever had an unstable overclock.rolleyes I just happened to read about it somewhere...:-D
I looked at your stat page again. Check your queue for unsent work. You might want to post up at the FAH forums.
augiedoggie
10-08-08, 11:39
Well what a nice surprise, the supplier shipped the new card by air! :cool OK, got everything installed smoothly except I forgot to install the CUDA driver first but all seems OK ATM with running the new driver. Two questions though Fred, how can I tell what the GPU is doing as Fahmon doesn't seem to want to work. The other thing is that the client took over core #4 and it's pinned. Is this normal?
augiedoggie
10-08-08, 13:40
Update: Got Fahmon to work, it was pointed at the wrong directory.:o:-D I did have my rig freeze up using their viewer and needed to reboot. Somehow, my rig was reset to auto reboot so didn't have a chance to check the BSOD, seemed like a driver issue from the glimpse that I had. It doesn't recognize the core either but as long as it's working, I could care less about that info.
Anyways, the first WU is almost done some 2.5 hours later for 480 points. Fahmon is predicting some 4.5K PPD so I'll leave everything as is and check the stats page tomorrow.
That is some nice PPD from a Canadian!:-D Augie, use driver cleaner and get the Cuda drivers on it!
And yeah, the GPU needs a core. That is why I mainly fold GPU's.
Jeeze, I lost almost 2 days of Folding due to internet problems. Scared to check my stats! :cry
FG
augiedoggie
10-10-08, 09:56
Update: OK, after a full day's folding I'm right at 5K PPD! :celebrate:dancer BTW, there's a new core out, ver 1.13 which is, after all that's been said on other forums, about %10 faster than the 1.09 core.:cool Just stop the client, delete the old one and let it find the new one from Stanford.
augiedoggie
10-10-08, 11:19
That is some nice PPD from a Canadian!:-D Augie, use driver cleaner and get the Cuda drivers on it!
FG
Yup, had the Cuda loaded when I posted about the viewer. I didn't use a driver cleaner, so maybe that's why I'm having some scroll lag on certain forums now. I'll go and find one and see what happens.
OK all you techies i have developed a problem.
i am running 5 clients 4Xgpu and 1 X cpu last week my folding really slowed down ( i did post it) over the week it got slower so i uninstalled and re-installed it but it is no better.
if i run just machine 1 it seems to be OK but if i try to add more machines it just grinds to a halt with all clients showing "working 0/0"
any suggestions please.:cry
augiedoggie
10-18-08, 09:51
OK all you techies i have developed a problem.
i am running 5 clients 4Xgpu and 1 X cpu last week my folding really slowed down ( i did post it) over the week it got slower so i uninstalled and re-installed it but it is no better.
if i run just machine 1 it seems to be OK but if i try to add more machines it just grinds to a halt with all clients showing "working 0/0"
any suggestions please.:cry
You'll have to explain a bit better Bill, I do know you have a quad with an ATI video card. Let's start with that box then, you can run a GPU2 client on the video card and probably a couple of single CPU clients making sure that each instance of F@H has its own directory and machine ID number. I know nothing about your other boxes. It really sounds like you're somehow creating conflicts.
Bill, are you trying to run 5 clients on one box?
@Augie I have 2Xgpu and 2Xcpu on the quad and 1Xgpu on the laptop
@Fred no i have 2 PCs
What is strange i have been running this configuration for a while and it's only in the last week or so that it has started playing up.
augiedoggie
10-18-08, 11:55
@Augie I have 2Xgpu and 2Xcpu on the quad and 1Xgpu on the laptop
@Fred no i have 2 PCs
What is strange i have been running this configuration for a while and it's only in the last week or so that it has started playing up.
OK, forget the laptop as it works all by itself but do check the deadline dates as mine are short at 3 days so if your laptop doesn't finish in time then the WU will be lost. Running two GPUs on one video card doesn't sound right to me and I've never seen anyone doing it but maybe there is someone. I would think that the clients would just split the difference, and possibly interfere with each other. I would suggest just going with one GPU unless you have a second video card.
As to why, I have no idea. Like I said above, make sure each client has its own folder and machine ID. Oh, you can run SMP to fill up your core usage using VMWare but with 1GB memory it might not be worth it.
I think I'll try out Vista for folding since I'm dual booting with it for now. See what happens.
OK thanks Augie i will try another configuration http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/218_science.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
augiedoggie
10-18-08, 12:19
LOL, it will live!:-D
Hey Bill, you got 2 video cards in that Quad box folding, or are you trying 2 folding clients on one GPU!
Dang Folding is getting complicated. Used to just run one client on one computer. And you had to borg like mad to get 1.5k PPD. It was a lot of work. And we LIKED it!:-D
augiedoggie
10-19-08, 15:42
OK, ignore what I said above. :o I just tried to duplicate Bill's setup today and ran into big issues. I started slowly by starting a 6.20 in console mode, separate folders and machine ID's and I was losing a net difference of 1K PPD!:eek I don't know how you managed all that you did Bill but on my machine there were obvious conflicts so I'm back to just folding with GPU.
I will try to install and run VMWare again after a bad encounter last year but that's the only way I'd run a systray or console client(s) as it would be separated from my GPU folding and use up some spare cycles on the other cores.
EDIT: I just remembered that Fred was looking into the same scenario so I'll check his thread to see what came out of it.
Pretty much gave up on it Augie. Too much hassle. I was running one Console Client on my Quad core box with the GPU folding, but it keeps on locking up!
A little off topic... I have been farfing around with one of my 8800GT cards... Dropped the GPU and RAM overclock and increased the Shaders''
6189.85 PPD. On one card. :dood I has l33t and Pimptastic Folding skilz!:-D
Well guys there is something really strange going on here.
I un-intalled all folding files from the PC and installed 1 gpu, set it up to run and all was good it started "attempting to get work packet" so it looked good but if i hover pointer over the icon it shows "GPU - F@H: working (0/0)" and yet if i right click the icon and go to display it shows as working correctly.http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1243_arrow.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
augiedoggie
10-20-08, 10:34
Well guys there is something really strange going on here.
I un-intalled all folding files from the PC and installed 1 gpu, set it up to run and all was good it started "attempting to get work packet" so it looked good but if i hover pointer over the icon it shows "GPU - F@H: working (0/0)" and yet if i right click the icon and go to display it shows as working correctly.http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1243_arrow.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
Get and run FAHMon (http://www.fahmon.net/download.html) , enter where your your folder is by rightclicking the empty space on the left. This is the best way to see what's going on with your client. Or, just check your logfile and it will tell you what's going on though it is a bit intimidating at first.
Sorry Augie i am going to give up on this until tomorrow.
I will leave it running overnight an see what shows in the morning.
I am obviously doing something wrong but will get it sorted eventually??????????
augiedoggie
10-20-08, 11:27
Meh, no problems Bill. What gets me is that you had it running fairly well at near 1K PPD at times, BTW did you delete the work folders too when you uninstalled everything? I've had some problems due to old work hanging around.
augiedoggie
10-21-08, 12:36
I started running the GPU console on Vista and quite surprisingly it only uses about 1/3 the CPU that XP does for the same PPD, %8 vs %25, I'm talking about the same machine in a dual-boot. I have no idea what this means for virtual folding yet but I will try VMWare again to see if there's any significant difference between the OS's, if I can get it running. :confused
Hello All,
after a little time off i decided to come back and crunch a little more.
Never even knew you guys had a forum for the folding effort... rolleyes
I see i lost a little ground.. I will have to do something about that when the bloody server starts accepting wu's again....:boxing
Welcome back! :wave Gas1can
thanks!
After my post i noticed the date of the last post (prior to my first)...
Is this forum still used?
Anyway it appears i need to make up 50k in points to get into some competion :major
give me a week... lol
anyone elses computer room sound like a jet taking off? I had to work for a week to get my case air flow right to stop my boxes from melting down.
augiedoggie
06-17-09, 15:36
thanks!
After my post i noticed the date of the last post (prior to my first)...
Is this forum still used?
Anyway it appears i need to make up 50k in points to get into some competion :major
give me a week... lol
anyone elses computer room sound like a jet taking off? I had to work for a week to get my case air flow right to stop my boxes from melting down.
Ya, I've got a pair of 9800GT's and an eVGA GTX260-216 OC'd and it's warm outside to boot! The 9800's are running on auto fan at 68/81C and fans @ %60 and %48 respectively. The 260 is much quieter even at %100 fan, more of a pleasant whoosh!:)
Yes this forum is used, ask away and someone will attempt to answer your questions. Oh, BTW this is my very modest farmlings:
Q6600, 9800GT X2 OC'd to 1800 shaders for some 11K PPD running 2 1888 pointers along with an SMP ATM. An X2 3800+ with a GTX 260-216 with shaders OC'd to 1525 and an instance of notFreds VM. Total comes out at 17K PPD so far but some are telling me that I can up the quad PPD. :) It's too warm in here as it is.;)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9000/foldingmajor.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/foldingmajor.jpg/)
anyone elses computer room sound like a jet taking off? I had to work for a week to get my case air flow right to stop my boxes from melting down.
Not quite but almost. :-D
In the computer room I have plastic (used to cover the windows in the winter time to keep the cold out) framed around the farm and an air conditioner installed to keep the farm happy. :major
My small farm has an Athlon socket A cpu 1,467Mhz console client (the other is down atm),an old dell I upgraded the cpu to 2.6Mhz socket 487,my barebone Athlon 3200+ 754 socket I threw together a little over a year ago that now houses my newly installed 8600GT and soon I will fire up the prescott 3Ghz once I purchase another 8600GT next month.
I've already noticed an advance in points already using the 8600GT.
Very nice guys!
I run 2 core2duo boxes.. each box runs a 9600gso and 8600gt respectively. Each box has 2 exhaust fans to keep the cool air coming in..
total clients on this set up is 8 with a ppd of 9300 according to fahmon.
I am considering adding 2 more 9600's.. but i am not sure my powersupplies can deal with more.... 550 watts can only do so much?
augiedoggie
06-18-09, 09:46
Very nice guys!
I run 2 core2duo boxes.. each box runs a 9600gso and 8600gt respectively. Each box has 2 exhaust fans to keep the cool air coming in..
total clients on this set up is 8 with a ppd of 9300 according to fahmon.
I am considering adding 2 more 9600's.. but i am not sure my powersupplies can deal with more.... 550 watts can only do so much?
Hehehe on 550W! I've got a pair of 9800GT's running on an Antec Earthwatts 500W with 3 drives and 4 gigs. No, I think you would need a new PSU.;)
Hang on there! You mean you have two different GPU's on each box? How the heck can you get 8 clients on two duo boxes? Man, on my quad I have 2X 9800GT's running the console GPU2 and 1 VM SMP, it won't take anymore, that is being productive as I tried 2 SMP's, not worth it IMO.
On my W7 X2, I have a GTX 260 and one VM SMP for 1K PPD on the multi-core SMP for a total of over 7K PPD. Darn, 9.3K PPD for that setup ain't too shabby at all!
Yea.. kinda figured that the power supplies were maxed out.. which is why i run one 8600 in each box.. they dont need to be plugged into the powersupply.
I run 2 boxes.. both identical.. dual core with a 9600 and 8600 gpus. I run all console clients.. one per core.. dont run smp clients.. should I?
I have been unable to return my WU's of the GPU2 NV MT type.. which means i am losing a ton of points.. have 6 completed while crunching 4 more right now.. deadlines are taking them from me starting in 2 hours.. it does not look promising that the gpu server i am linked to will be back up anytime soon either.
(171.65.103.100)
I have been unable to return my WU's of the GPU2 NV MT type.. which means i am losing a ton of points.. have 6 completed while crunching 4 more right now.. deadlines are taking them from me starting in 2 hours.. it does not look promising that the gpu server i am linked to will be back up anytime soon either.
(171.65.103.100)
What I do if my WU don't go through within a reasonable time period,say 3 hours I would turn off my service wait a minute then turn it back on while viewing the log file to that client.
Usually the third time it goes through and if that doesn't get the WU sent I would create a shortcut within the client folder and use the [ -sendall -send all ] switch - forgot which one it is and this usually gets it through unless in fact the server is down.
on a side note, that is why I prefer the 8600GT as it requires no extra power connectors and I must admit well within my buget@33.00usd new on fleaBay. :major
I run 2 boxes.. both identical.. dual core with a 9600 and 8600 gpus. I run all console clients.. one per core..
Wow! I just realized you are even using your cpu to run two console clients plus the two gpu's on each of your computers.
Impressive to say the least. :cool
My understanding from the small amount of readings concerning gpu clients is not to run a cpu client alongside each other as the gpu uses some of the idle cycles from the cpu (which they are working on to have the gpu be independent from the cpu to not do this), but I never read anything stating this couldn't be done using a multiple type cpu,as you are doing.
Thank you for this input.
Concerning your WU's not being sent I would post at Stanford folding forum (http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=ee879a529dbd8f155260cd2d6c3c6874)
as the server in question is indeed Down (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html)
as of this posting.
I'm thinking should you use the send all switch it is supposed to located an alternate server to upload results.
the results servers are back up.. so no issue there any longer.
About the gpu console clients.. they burn NO cpu at all..
so you can run a cpu console client per core without bothering your gpu clients at all..
be advised.. you will need good airflow thru your case.. or you will heat.
I thought i burnt myself when i put my hand on the top of the case....:-o
I spent 3 days working the airflow out... :cry
With only one case fan in each box ambient was hitting 127f / 53c.
The cpu was 160f/70c and the gpu was hitting 212f / 99c.
After adding a second fan to each case (all fans blowing out) temps are now: case 100f/38c - cpus 127f/53c - gpus 165f/74c with every core at 100% and a room temp of 76f/25c.
I feel that ambient temp if too high will case memory failure if not arrested.
Butchtaylor909
11-13-09, 06:15
Sorry to resurect a dead thread BUT.
just decided to get into this folding stuff and i was hoping to get a bit of advice on how to run it on multiple comps, setting it up for a quad core processor, etc.
got it running on my wifes comp and i am getting about 320 PPD acording to FahMon
just want to get it set up on mine to take advantage of the fact that the comp has a quad core and is idle alot.
No problem on the thread.
It would be helpful to know what kind of specs you have on your comps and how much effort you want to put into it.
Recent video cards can use the GPU folder which is a bear for points and you can put multiple clients on a quad core either under Windows or Linux or VMWare. The last 2 if you have a 64-bit capable set up.
Here is some info on the video card requirements copied from FAH -
AMD/ATI
1. If you have a ATI GPU, the requirement is to be compatible with CAL and this mean that any card from X2xxx (R6xx) series and above can run any CAL application. This also means that unfortunately, X1xxx and older is not compatible because the shaders architecture is not unified.
2. ATI driver supported for folding is currently the Catalyst 8.7 (or newer) that you can find it here. To update the driver, it's suggested that you uninstall the old driver, reboot then install the new driver.
NVIDIA
1. If you own a NVIDIA card, it must be compatible with CUDA, so the 8 series and above is compatible (a list is available to check if your card is compatible, including the GeForce, Tesla and Quadro lines). The GeForce series 7 and older is not compatible due to a lack of unified shaders.
2. You need to run the proper driver to run CUDA. NVIDIA official CUDA 177.35 (or newer) driver can be downloaded here and you should use this version unless there is a compelling reason to use a different one. To update the driver, it's suggested that you uninstall the old driver, reboot then install the new driver.
We can point you to many useful guides on set up once we have some more information.
augiedoggie
11-13-09, 08:27
Sorry to resurect a dead thread BUT.
just decided to get into this folding stuff and i was hoping to get a bit of advice on how to run it on multiple comps, setting it up for a quad core processor, etc.
got it running on my wifes comp and i am getting about 320 PPD acording to FahMon
just want to get it set up on mine to take advantage of the fact that the comp has a quad core and is idle alot.
Welcome aboard! Does your quad have an nVidia 80xx series card or better? If so you can fold mega points with that using the GPU2 client. I'll assume you have some flavour of Windows as OS, so grab VMWare Player 3.0, (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/VMware-Player.shtml) Ubuntu 9.10 and a Linux client for the best points. You should also grab a temperature monitoring program to see how well your system takes to being run at %100.
If all that above scares you then you can run a regular SMP but it will be small fraction of what you really could get from that CPU, on my stock speed Q6600 I get some 3.4K PPD.
If you do want to try something more adventurous then start a new thread and one of us will help you. Welcome to the fold.:)
EDIT: lbmest is wide awake today!:-D
Butchtaylor909
11-13-09, 08:35
yeah sorry guess i should have put more details on. hope the following is sufficient if not let me know how to get a better list together and i wil do.
this is on my comp, wich is idle most of the time so could do loads of folding aslong as its low/no maintenance due to me working away from home for long periods occasionally,
AMD Phenom X4 9950 2.6GHz Black Edition
4.00GB RAM
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
NVIDIA GeForce 9500GT
on a Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3
this is my wifes comp, wich will be used for general browsing but as it is my wifes i again need the program to be low/NO maint.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (2.6GHz)
2.00 GB RAM
Windows XP Home Edition
not sure which gfx card but i know its a geforce 7 series
Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4
@ augie - I would hope I'm awake at 9:30 cause I've already been at work for 4 1/2 hours.:eek
@ Butchtaylor909 I see you have already installed 1 client at least. Bravo for the 119 points already.
What you might want to do is start out with the V6 GPU2 client which would produce the most points for the least amount of effort for your machine. You can download the System Tray client from HERE (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/Folding@home-Win32-GPU-systray-623.msi)
The installation procedure can be found HERE (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGPUGuide)
NVIDIA FAQs can be found HERE (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/cgi-bin/index.php?n=English.FAQ-NVIDIA)
I think the systray client is very easy to use and having the icon available to check on various items comes in handy. (I'm running it on my own Vista Ult 64-bit.)
You can use the Nvidia System Tools to monitor different items; temps, overclocking, etc. That can be found HERE (http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.05.html)
I use the Precision utility from EVGA since I have an EVGA card. That can be found HERE (http://www.evga.com/precision/) (I'm not sure if you can use it for any Nvidia card or not.)
Another good monitoring application is FahMon, which can be used for monitoring point production. This is not necessary as there are several websites along with Stanford itself that give point production but can be useful if you start to have more than 1 client type on your machine or you want to monitor several clients over a network. FahMon can be found HERE (http://fahmon.net/)
One website that I use for monitoring team and individual production is HERE (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=12072) - This is the team page for MajorGeeks Team # 12072 (Very Important # which I see you know.)
Butchtaylor909
11-13-09, 17:50
thanks for the advice...
got the GPU client set up and a normal cpu one too on my comp now
have got FahMon installed to and it is giving me a rough PPD of 2k for the 2 combined.
dont think i will go in to the hassle of setting up SMP(only cause i dont know how)
It's all to the good of the research so what makes you comfortable is fine.
I'm not to sure about the set up on a straight quad core because I jumped from an old single core to a VMPlayer set up with 4 appliances running on the CPU. The old comp was good for about 300 points a day and couldn't run the GPU set up. (8 year old Gateway with AGP for video just didn't cut it.;))
Butchtaylor909
11-13-09, 18:50
just put a 9500GT in my wife's comp(the 7300GT needed to go anyway)
and got the GPU client running on that giving me a total PPD of about 4K.
may look into VMPlayer when i get back from my next business trip, and have more time on my hands
augiedoggie
11-13-09, 20:35
just put a 9500GT in my wife's comp(the 7300GT needed to go anyway)
and got the GPU client running on that giving me a total PPD of about 4K.
may look into VMPlayer when i get back from my next business trip, and have more time on my hands
Good for you! Excellent points! Ya, as lbmest said take your time.:cool
just put a 9500GT in my wife's comp(the 7300GT needed to go anyway)
and got the GPU client running on that giving me a total PPD of about 4K.
may look into VMPlayer when i get back from my next business trip, and have more time on my hands
Great on the upgrade to the wife's comp. The GPU client is a point getter compared to the CPU clients. They work on different proteins so both are useful in the long run.
The VMPlayer is a sweet deal to set up. augie uses a linux appliance and I use the notfred appliance so either way you want to go if you have questions, feel free.
I use the Precision utility from EVGA since I have an EVGA card. That can be found HERE (http://www.evga.com/precision/) (I'm not sure if you can use it for any Nvidia card or not.)
the program Precision utility from EVGA works on my 8600GT's which are OEM MSI cards.
used Unknown Devices (http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3908) to verify video cards manufacturer. (just to make sure)
Welcome to the Fold Butchtaylor909 !
I have learned a lot from augie and lbmest,just by reading their posts and replies to others.
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