Html5 Video

Discussion in 'Software' started by harmless, May 9, 2016.

  1. harmless

    harmless Staff Sergeant

    ok, maybe i'm too old and bitter... i've been hearing about html5 video for quite awhile now, and how it is going to save the world, bring about peace, and other miraculous events, including the end of flash as a video format. what i don't understand is why people think these things.

    what brought this on... there is a channel on twitch tv that i have been following for a few years, saltybet. about a month or so ago, i noticed the chat stream light up announcing twitch's move to html5 video. every one was chatting smiley faces and dancing on flash's newly dug grave. so i thought i should be able to view the saltybet stream in an up to date browser that did not have flash installed in it, and i got a browser message that said i needed to install flash to view the stream. and there have been a handful of times when the saltybet site crashes when viewing their new html5 stream, and the browser message is the flash plugin has stopped responding.

    so i thought i better figure out what html5 video is, and unless i misread the explanations, it is just a container. nothing more. you still need to stick an encoded video inside of the html5 container, and the twitch stream i follow still uses flash. does nobody care, or noticed, since flash has to updated religiously. the one thing i noticed, since their switch, is that the saltybet stream sucks up more cpu cycles. my guess is that the browser now has to deal with 2 things, the html5 container and the flash video inside, whereas before, there was only one thing to deal with, just flash.

    anyway, i know flash needs to be replaced, but i truly don't understand why people have hitched their wagon to html5 video. please correct me if i am wrong somehow. i actually posted this question in saltybet's forum [ worded differently, but same basic question ] and i was kind of ignored, it was like no one understood what i was asking.

    so i am hoping some major geeks can explain it to my simple mind.

    thanks!

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  2. davismccarn

    davismccarn Specialist

    HTML5 (Hyper Text Markup Language) is the latest standard for web pages and it was adopted in October, 2014.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
    An ongoing battle in which Apple had steadfastly refused to allow the installation of Adobe Flash Player combined with Microsoft's efforts to kill off XP and Vista (neither of which have an HTML5 compliant browser) has led to shifting websites to the HTML5 standards, including HTML5 video streams. With iPhones having almost 50% of the smart phone market, for example, the pressure is on the website authors to support the hundreds of millions of devices that can't use flash.
    So, plain and simple, it's all about the money. Moving to HTML5 compliance adds, quite possibly, billions of new, potential, customers!
     
  3. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

  4. harmless

    harmless Staff Sergeant

    thanks eldon,
    the booklet does explain things pretty well. the section on video and codecs was basically what i thought it was.
    guess i was a bit exasperated with the chat stream on the channel, since flash is still needed yet everyone was declaring
    its tyrannical reign was over. and flash will, most likely, still be needed unless someone reprograms the MUGEN game engine
    [ which powers the stream ] to output the video stream in a different format. well, that's my best uneducated guess.
    anyway, thanks
     
  5. harmless

    harmless Staff Sergeant

    this is just for closure's sake... since closure is always nice to have o_O

    i did find the answer i was looking for. i'm old, tired, bitter, and worn down from the constant change of technology, so i pretty much ignored all chatter about the new html5 standards. what confused me about the new html5 video specs, after reading a few intro to html5 booklets... was a bunch of really really smart people got together to make the internet a better place for streaming video, and it appeared their solution was a new video container?? and i was like... huh?

    what those booklets forgot to mention was that any html5 compliant web browser has built-in video decoding capability for MP4, WebM or Ogg encoded videos, no need for plugins or 3rd party decoders. and i was like.... oh, ok, now it makes sense. duh... why didn't they just say that to begin with... lol

    anyway, just thought i would mention this. toodles.
     

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