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Need help building a computer

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by DaJackel, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

    I'm looking to build a computer for myself and I haven't been up to date on all the new hardware and such.

    I'm looking to spend somewhere around $1,000.. no more than $1,500.
    I don't need monitor or anything like that. Just the tower and the insides.
    Don't need Optical Drives either.

    (Note, if suggesting on where to buy as well, I'm in Canada)

    Thanks guys!
  2. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    You shouldn't have to spend that much.

    What is the intended use of the PC?
  3. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

    That's good news.

    Mostly Gaming and Game/App Development.
  4. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    Bear in mind I have no idea of the exchange rate or looked it up.

    Anyway, an AMD CPU with an nForce 4 chipset board would be ideal.

    As far as gaming, do you play 3D games, or fairly simple games?

    There is a huge price difference between video cards, and they are the costliest component, so you need to choose wisely for your needs.
  5. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

    I play new 3d games.
    I'd like a damn good card...

    Maybe $300-400 for the card?

    I also develop 3d games using DirectX/OpenGL using Shaders.
    So I do need a pretty good card.
  6. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    The best two mid-range chips are the nVidia 6600 GT (make sure it's a GT) and the ATI X800 GTO (newly released)

    The next ones up would probably be the nVidia 6800 onwards.

    Combined with an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe or Premium motherboard (or an A8N32-SLI Deluxe) , an AMD 3500+ (upward) CPU and 1 GB of RAM, and you will have a very fast machine which will play any current game.

    With SLI, you will also have the option of adding another card later if you find it's not coping with newer games.

    (The fastest graphic chips currently are the nVidia 7800GTX)
  7. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

    Thank you, I will shop around for these and post you what I have made for a final system and see what you think.
  8. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    You're welcome.

    Try to get the best you can afford and post back before you take the plunge.

    I'm sure others will also offer their opinions and recommendations.
  9. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

  10. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

    I'm also missing a power supply.
    Would need help picking one of those out.
  11. splitt3r

    splitt3r You are now the victim of a drive by title change

    This is just an outline the minimum for this setup would be $800 or so, so this is just the minimum

    Mobo-Socket 939 ASUS with SLI
    Cpu-Any socket 939 AMD athlon 64 or better
    PSU-at least 400w choose from a good brand liek antec or OCz
    Gpu-Nvidia 6600gt or better, 7800GTX is the best you can get, choose wisely
    RAM-ddr400 at least 1gb
    Case-Look at the brands aspire and coolermaster, tehy make great cases, be sure there is plenty of room for expansion and cooling
    optical drive-Dvd RW dual layer, tehse are pretty cheap right now
    Hard drive-SATA connection, 250gb is a sweet spot with hard drives, bigger is always better.
    cooling-get some good quality fans, I wouldn't reccomend liquid cooling, but don't settle for junk on this one.
  12. splitt3r

    splitt3r You are now the victim of a drive by title change

  13. Wyatt_Earp

    Wyatt_Earp MajorGeek

    If I were you, I'd go for this CPU. It has double the L2 cache and is only $20 more. Overall it's a better chip.


    Also, IMO, I'd save a little money and go for a 7800 GT for about $300:


    As for a Power Supply, I can always recommend Antec:


    But this is the one that I have. It's a little cheaper and has done great for me. I have 5 hard drives 2 optical drives and a floppy hooked up as well as all the normal PC components:


    And, as splitter said, that RAM will not work. You'll need something like this:

    It's $197 after $40 rebate.
  14. DaJackel

    DaJackel Private E-2

  15. Prophets21

    Prophets21 Staff Sergeant

    I think 2 gigs of RAM wouldn't hurt. I would also recommend an X1900 series video card. With that budget you should be aiming for the best.

    That said, the canada to us exchange rate is painful I think.

    and do not get a cheap power supply, get 500w+
  16. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    Everything you have chosen looks pretty good.

    It will be expensive, but you are getting premium parts.

    As far as the video card, most nVidia chips (don't get ATI) use a reference design, so there isn't a huge difference in terms of performance between different cards.

    Rather than worrying about the different brand 7800GT's, go for a well priced one that has extras like games and cables etc.

    Just make sure the video card doesn't use a double slot, especially in that motherboard (A8N32-SLI ), or you won't have much room.

    If you are going to run SLI, I'd be looking at a 500-550 watt PSU.
  17. steve Max

    steve Max Private First Class

    New egg does not ship to Canada. Here (Canada) I shop online at Ncix and HL technology, both in Vancouver B.C. which is 3000 miles from me and after paying the shipping is still cheaper than local stores. I picked out a few items so you can get a sense of what it costs in Canadian bucks.
    Maxtor 250 gig sata drive
    ocz, dual channel 1 gig
    asus A8N-E motherboard
    AMD 3700+ san diego 1m cache
    BFG 6600g
    915.45 tax and shipping incl.
    As for case and power supply, its up to you hard to pick one for someone else. But fortron 400 watt for $40 and a case for under a 100 depending on what you want. Don't cheap out on a psu, one very overlooked part when building a pc. The other site I mentioned is awesome as well, and both have excellent customer service.
  18. Tourangh

    Tourangh Master Sergeant

  19. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    Fortron 400 Watt for $40?

    I would never put a cheap power supply in the same room with a quality PC.

    That's the worst thing you can do if you value your hardware, especially with PCIXpress.

    Number of Watts means nothing if the quality is poor.
  20. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind


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