Seagate jumpers?

Discussion in 'Software' started by hilbilymel, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. hilbilymel

    hilbilymel Private E-2

    I have a seagate st3640323as 640 GB drive. I'm trying to determine if my problem is the drive or my motherboard.

    I can't find the jumpers on the drive or what they should be set to. :cry
     
  2. Puppywunder58

    Puppywunder58 Master Sergeant

  3. 12quidkidinnit

    12quidkidinnit Private First Class

    This is a SATA drive, so doesn't have jumpers.

    What problem are you having with it ?

    If it's a new drive and it isn't appearing in "My Computer", it will need a partition, and to be formatted before it will show up.
     
  4. plodr

    plodr Major Geek Super Extraordinaire

    If you are trying to install XP on it, you need to load the SATA drivers before XP will install.
     
  5. The Shadow

    The Shadow Specialist

    Right! (sort of)
    SATA drives DO NOT have the jumpers that the old IDE drives had.
    A SATA drive is always a MASTER because ONLY ONE can be attached to any SATA port of the motherboard.

    BUT, (it seems like there's always a BUT) if your motherboard only supports a SATA1 drive and you put a SATA2 drive on it....the bios will NOT be able to see the drive. In that case, a small jumper will have to be put on the proper two pins on the back of the drive, before the mobo bios will even see it.
    Many SATA2 drives come out of the box with that SATA1 jumper already installed. On a sata 2 mobo, that jumper should be removed so the drive can operate at the full SATA2 speed.

    Once that little problem is taken care of, the drive will act just like any other drive.

    When you have any question about a particular hard drive, you should always GO right to the manufacturers web site. All the info you need is there.
    Call them if you have to.

    Good Luck,
    The Shadow :cool
     
  6. hilbilymel

    hilbilymel Private E-2

    I've tried installing xp and ubuntu on it

    I can boot from a CD and it appears to start the install but if I need to reboot during the install I get errors.

    For a while it was stuck at Verifying DMI. Then I got an error about not reading the drive. Now I am getting a NTLDR missing error.

    Is it a hard drive issue or is the mobo the problem?
     
  7. hilbilymel

    hilbilymel Private E-2

    It is also possible the motherboard is the issue. I cannot do anything with the bios settings. After about two seconds it just goes to the verifying dmi message or boot from cd.

    I asked about the jumpers because when I ask people about this problem they tell me it is a jumper issue and I tell them I don't have jumpers. I will try to find out if my motherboard and drive are 1 or 2.

    If I need a jumper where do I get one. Nothing came with the drive?
     
  8. The Shadow

    The Shadow Specialist

    Those tiny little jumpers are not found at the corner store. One comes on each SATA2 drive, to make it compatible with SATA1 motherboards.
    I found some at a computer show once and bought a bad of ten. Since then I've used several of them.

    I guess that first you need to know what you've got.
    What speed is that drive and what speed is the sata port on your motherboard. (SATA1 or SATA2 ?? )
    It would help a lot if they were both SATA2.

    First things first.

    Oh, by the way, new motherboards that have a compatibility mode for SATA drives do not require you to load any SATA drivers when Installing XP.
    Mine is like that. I never need any drivers for anything....the mobo takes care of all of it. It even lets me use my USB mouse in DOS. Not too many do that.

    Good Luck to ya!
    Shadow :cool
     
  9. hilbilymel

    hilbilymel Private E-2

    First I want to thank everyone for all of your help.
    It looks like my motherboard and my drive are sata2.
    I plugged the drive into a different sata port and it is working better.
    I have stopped getting all the strange errors and I can get into the bios.

    I tried to install xp and it got to where you need to restart the computer but then started the installation over again. It kept going in a loop.

    I then tried to install ubuntu and it installed with no problems.
    The only issue is the normal linux issue of what drivers do I need to find and download.
    It looks like it recognized all of the hardware.

    So it looks like I don't need to return any of the hardware but I still want to be able to install xp. Any ideas?:confused

    Thanks again.:)
     
  10. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Once it restarts, are you just letting it continue ( as opposed to responding to the message to hit enter to boot from disc)?

    And since you are on sata, are you hitting the key to have it install additional drivers?
     
  11. The Shadow

    The Shadow Specialist

    Don't ya just hate it when that happens?:cry

    Some PC's will ask you if you want to boot from the CD and some don't.
    When they don't, what you have to do is pop the CD drive open while XP Setup reboots the PC and close it after the boot-up has finished, because Setup will go back to the CD for more data. That prevents the ol' "Boot Loop".

    Yeah, it's a pain in the #$%&, but it works just fine.
    Newer mobo's don't need the SATA drivers for XP to load, because they present SATA drives to the OS as if they were IDE's. No biggie!

    Give XP a try again. Sounds like it will work OK, as long as you remember to pop that CD tray open at each reboot.
    Hang in there.

    I'm writing to you on a brand new install of Vista Ultimate 64 and I didn't even have to load ANY drivers.
    Video, sound, lan, all installed OK.

    This baby ROCKS, with my new AMD Athlon 64, X2 5200+ CPU and 3 gig's of DDR2 ram. With all my Tweaks loaded, this OS is running faster than a fully tweaked XP-Pro.

    Good Luck to ya!
    Happy Super Bowl !!!
    Shadow :cool
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009
  12. hilbilymel

    hilbilymel Private E-2

    I took the XP disk out when it restarted and now I'm getting a disk read error.:(

    I'm thinking of starting a new thread as this has gone way off topic from the jumper question.
     
  13. hilbilymel

    hilbilymel Private E-2

    I removed some memory to see if that helped and now it is automatically restarting when I don't have the CD in it.
     

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