Spybot 1.3 beta 6 to 1.3rc

Hi,i am currently running spybot 1.3 beta 6. Tried update button on 1.3 beta 6 since i heard 1.3rc is available---states "no new updates available"--why?
If i have to uninstall 1.3 beta 6 before installing 1.3rc,how do you unimmunize first?
Thank you to any responders

 

Download it here.

I just got through installing it over the top of 1.3 b6, no problem at all, YMMV.

 

yeah me too. Just downloaded over the top of existing SpyBot with no problems. Picked up all my settings just fine. I did hit immunize and it had five new items to immunize against.

 

Hey, pomp, all you have to do is open the old version, click File in the menu bar, and click Uninstall. The flyout shd say sthg about "partial uninstall" and "Remove all Spybot entries from the registry." A click on that will clean out the old reg settings, and then you can install the new beta without any additional uninstallation and without any concerns about conflicts or messed up settings. Or you can do the "Remove entries" click first, then uninstall with Add-Remove Programs. Then install the new RC3.

Alan and bill report that they installed RC3 on top of the latest beta with no probs. That's reliable evidence from savvy members.

BUT (and this is a big BUTT) ...If you have a NON-beta installed, though (1.2, probably), I'd say download the new beta, then go for the "Remove entries" thing, then uninstall 1.2 with Add-Remove, and then immediately install the new beta and set it up and run it right away, so you're not missing out on the valuable protection it affords.

 

Teacup???

In the system tray I've got what looks like a little XP window with a padlock in front at the lower left corner.

I noticed the executable and process are named "TeaTimer" but no teacup here


Maybe you're on the wrong side of the world, Cowboy!!!

 

Not to worry alan I have the padlock and XP window also, means both protectons are running. Maybe Bill Gates doesn't like tea

Edit: Robo, real men drink Texas Tea (Black Gold, Millionaires, Swimmin' Pools, Don't ya know) oops, sorry, Beverly Hillbillies flashback

 

I think for now, I am going to stick to 1.2 as I did have the beta and it brought up and error window all the time I tried to run it, so I uninstalled it and went back to 1.2 and if I run the update on it, it says there is none. So the Beta from 1.2 is a full install I guess.

 

Umm, I THINK that's what I SAID way back up there. It's never a good idea to just overwrite a standard release version with a beta version in an attempt to update. Get rid of the standard release and then install your first member of the beta stream, and from there on (as reported here) you shd have no probs upgrading a BETA with ANOTHER beta in the same series.

It's the upgrade-jump from 1.2 (standard) to BETA RC3 that promises to give you headaches, so avoid that jump. OUT, then in.

 

Spybot latest release

Downloaded and installed the latest version over the top of previous version with no problem but it is a real resource hog on my PC. Cleans out the balance of resources entirely and low resource message pops up. Never happened to me before. Think I may go back to the previous version.. W98SE, 288mb ram, 30 gig harddrive, AOL UK v7.0.

Even when logged off the net and run Spybot it sucks out the resouces. Baz

 

Yeah, I just disabled teatimer too. The drop in CPU and Memory Usage in Task Manager was clearly noticeable.

 

yep boys Ten-Four on disable the resident. I'm only running 256 megs of ram (at the moment, soon to be changed to 512) and a 30 meg bite is quite a bit to take. I agree with the Cowpoke, until Javacool spruces the teacup up, (which I'm sure they will) no resident on boot for me.

 

You know . . . I knew that too and still posted the mistake Oh well . . .

 

Resource hog (more)

DV8 Cowboy and xflat. I did a bit more research on my laptop. Win98SE, 288mb Ram

New version of Spybot uses 34% of System, 14% of User and 46% of GDI resources according to M$ c:\windows\rsrcmtr.exe icon on my desktop. AdAware uses 20% of System, 6% of User and 20% of GDI. PestPatrol uses 20% of System, 14% of User and 20% of GDI.

...................................................System............ User..............GDI
Put simply........Spybot (latest)........... 34................14 ................46
.......................AdAware.....................20..................6.................20
.......................Pest Patrol..................22................14.................22

(tried to align these in columns for easier reading, not sure how it will appear when posted although preview post looks OK when I added the dots)

Spybot uses nearly as much System and GDI as the other 2 combined. Don't know whether you can compare on this basis but that is how it is on my PC.

Used to be able to play Freecell whilst waiting for these 3 to do their thing. No longer, "Out of memory" comes up. I know it refers to resources not RAM. Still have 61% of Ram free.

Hope "they" do something about "it" soon as I like Spybot S&D. Baz

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Now that I've read all of this info, I've decided to stick with the mainstream version 1.2. At first this Beta RC's features looked so superior that I thot I'd jump from the standard to the Beta, but the resource prob seems significant and the gain insignificant if you shut down the resident function -- it's the same Spybot S & D when you just run it on demand.

BUT I was thinking, instead of just grousing around among ourselves, some of us should be dropping Patrick a friendly, non-attacking, appreciative (for the fine program that has helped us all in the past) note that says something like

"Spybot is one of my favorite anti-spyware programs, and I've never hesitated to recommend it, but the latest BETA raises new concerns about resource consumption, and I sincerely hope you'll address those concerns before the RC becomes the release version. Thanks for the great work on a terrific program."

Just a thought. I've just sent him my message like that one.

 

Done and done, Wiz. Thanks for the suggestion.
Bill

 

Spybot

Wise words, wizewiz ! Will do. Baz

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Great all around, guys! What a bunch! And for today, G'night all!

 

Much Thanks To All.

Hi,thanks again to everyone for the wise information.I can see now after reading the responses,this forum has some really intelligent members and i look forward to posting any challenging questions in the future.
POMPSTE

 

"quote" i look forward to posting any challenging questions in the future.
POMPSTE"------- we will be waiting

 

Cowboy, Thanks for leaping to my defence at the Authors site. Maybe I should have posted the usage settings as they affected my PC instead, or as well as, posting the link to the MG thread. A lot us read the threads without checking out any references quoted (as we should, to get the full picture). Baz

 

I'll second Baz on thanking the 'Boy for speaking to his defense Eloquently done with no "Why you dirty . . ." attitude at all. We be gentlemen and ladies here at MG

 

The continuing story of Spybot beta

Hullo to all, I have just ran all 3 versions of Spybot S & D on my laptop as follows: -

......................................SYS................USER................GDI
Spybot 1.1........................15....................14....................25
Spybot 1.2........................20......................6....................27
Spybot 1.3 beta.................34....................14....................46

They were each run independently, with minimum else running except Analog X Max mem, volume control and rsrcmtr.exe.

IMHO it would appear that 1.3 beta uses almost as much resources as 1.1 and 1.2 combined (on my laptop W98SE, P2/400, 288mb RAM, 30 gig HD

I will post this on the Author's site http://forums.net-integration.net/index.php?showtopic=13540 as well.

I uninstalled the beta, installed 1.2 and then ran Spybot 1.2, AdAware and PestPatrol together and still had 23/47/23 left. Plenty of resources for Freecell. Still had 22/44/22 left with Freecell running. Baz

 

Thanks Nick, is it still a resource hog? Baz

 

Nick, I haven't installed the latest beta. BTW I couldn't open your attached image. Is there a trick I am overlooking. Baz

 

Thanks Nick, I will download it and give it a try. BTW I still can't open your attached image.
How do you open it. nowhere to doubleclick, no hints visible that these old eyes can see. Baz

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Spybot

Tried to access the Spybot site but no dice. I assume they are swamped by downloaders. Hope MG can get on and download it and post a link aso an MG download. Baz

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Its not a link, just an image.

 

Hi, A few points of clarification.

(1) I cannot access Nick's attached image
(2) I cannot access any Spybot company pages. I keep getting a "CGI-limits reached--try again later" error message. It may be site is overloaded or another DDos attack.
(3) I hope MG can get onto Spybot site and download latest beta, as per Nick's post below, and set it up so we can download it from MG and not have to go to Spybot site. Baz

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Spybot volunteer

xflat, will do. We need another "volunteer" who loads it at Startup. I have, in the past, only run it every couple of days. I guess if it is not a resource hog I might be convinced to run it each time at bootup Cowboy, thanks for the link, Baz

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Spybot

Here we go (xflat and Cowboy) and for anyone else interested. Lots of reads from the original post !

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Following on from previous posts (you'll have to scroll down, and/or change pages)
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Thursday--22/4/2004--9am Australian Eastern time.

Downloaded and installed Spybotsd13rc4.exe, 4.11 megabytes (download, 20 mins and 20 seconds for me on dialup).
Installed new beta 13rc4.
Logged off MG and rebooted.

Closed down all programs with icons at bottom right of screen, except for Analog X Maxmem, rsrcmtr.exe and Volume control, same as earlier post.
.........................................................................SYS.........USER...........GDI
Maxmem shows 79% of RAM free
(227mb, in my case). Resources are.....................80...............80...............91

Clicked on Spybot icon on my desktop
and ran it (PS: no padlock icon appears).

Maxmem shows 56% of RAM free
(162mb, 65mb used??)
Resources fall to..................................................49................69............49

Closed Spybot, ran MaxMem again,
87% free (250mb free)and now.............................83.................83............89
To recap and align them all, hopefully.

........................................SYS................USER................GDI
Spybot 1.1...........................15....................14....................25
Spybot 1.2...........................20.....................6.....................27
Spybot 1.3 beta rc3...............34....................14....................46
Spybot 1.3 beta rc4...............31....................11....................41

IMHO, on my PC, still a hog, slightly better than rc3 in resources used.

MG'ers, please comment, I would like to hear from those of you that run rc4 on a lot more powerful PC than mine.
Solo 9300XL laptop, P2/400, Win98SE, 288mb RAM (maxed out), 30gig HD.
Yehhh, I know, it's old!

Composed this in Notepad and pasted it here (Cowboy). Hope it comes out aligned after inserting more dots.

Baz

 

I would have to agree. No tea for me, thank you.

 

All it takes is a msconfig to uncheck the tea

 

http://www.majorgeeks.com/vb/showpost.php?p=340058&postcount=14

That's a good idea, at least until Patrick gets the bugs worked out.

Until then I'm going to direct people to the last non-beta ver 1.2 on his home page. It's too much of a PITA to tell someone "Install this, but then disable teatimer.exe in msconfig or it'll slow down your system."

No wonder they're called growing pains.

 

Each version of Spybot I've used has always knocked the resource meter down between 30 - 45%. It is mentioned on NI's website that it is due to the type of scanning engine they chose to utilize. My personal preference will always be Spybot over Ad-aware, not matter how much juice it needs.

 

Spybot

xflat, just a quick question. Do later versions of Windows (later than W98SE) handle SYS, USER and GDI resources any better than W98SE, in general, not necessarily just concerning Spybot. I guess rc3 and rc4 beta versions are still a hog in more recent OS's and CPU's than mine (P2/400) from reading other posts below. Some before and after comparisons would be of interest from those with modern PC's.

I guess I will still use rc4 but "on demand" and will close it afterwards. All it means is that I can't run 3 programs at once. The naysayers will say I shouldn't be doing it, but it used to work for me with version 1.2. Baz

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Spybot beta testing

xflat. thanks for the quick and interesting reply. Baz

 

and you know the frustrating thing...it was here on this thread the entire time! Alanc...BillH...Myself all of us who just d/l on top had an issue.......
Good call Flattop I uninstalled SBS&D and reinstalled (after an extensive session with RegSupreme getting empty keys deleted and one pesky reg key that didn't want to die. Oh yeah I found out the only and I mean only way to fly when cleaning out leftover keys, entries and other unneccessary garbage after an install is to run CCleaner (that's the polite name for it ). Boy is this a powerful, neatly wrought little application. If you haven't checked it out yet, you should take a look at it.) and the hoggy aspect of SBS&D dropped dramatically. Keep in mind I'm, for now, only running 256Meg of ra, on a P4 2.4 Gig. Like the Cowboy though, I'll keep an eye on the critter until I trust it.
Bill
EDIT: If I have it set to block pages silently...and I go to Intresting Weblinks page here on the MG.....if I click on a weblink....my PC freezes to the point I have to reboot...
Tried the website links and Google and several others.
So far no probs.
B