System restore unavailable due to Group Policy

Discussion in 'Malware Help - MG (A Specialist Will Reply)' started by russelllynn, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Have spent hours cleaning my machine Vista OS according to your instructions (read and run me first) but I still cannot use or access System Restore. I have attached all the logs I can find and have followed your instruction. What Next?
     
  2. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Welcome to Major Geeks!

    What makes you think that your problems are due to malware? Also why are you trying to use System Restore?

    Note that you did not attach the 5 requested logs.
     
  3. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Dear Chas Lang, I think it must be malware as I never changed group policy ever and I haven't been able to access system restore since I last rebooted the OS. As to logs not being posted I could only find four but when I uploaded the four I could find I noticed that a lot of other logs uploaded with them. If you could please inform me of the missing log and give me some idea where it could be located that would help me very much. You did get the four logs?
     
  4. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Vista and Win 7 have had many problems like this with policies and/or permissions.

    Actually you have still not attached anything. The logs requested were listed in the READ & RUN ME as below
     
  5. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Thanks ChasLang, I did not run MGTools yet and the only four logs I have are attached. The only report I couldn't find was for Rogue Killer and I only have an EULA for that product.
     

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  6. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    I have tried using MGtools but it keeps saying access is denied. I have found gettheunkey log and have tried to attach but it is Bigger than the allowed size
     
  7. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Please download Junkware Removal Tool to your desktop.
    • Shut down your protection software now to avoid potential conflicts.
    • Run the tool by double-clicking it. If you are using Windows Vista or Seven, right-mouse click it and select Run as Administrator.
    • The tool will open and start scanning your system.
    • Note: That JRT may reset your home page to a google default so you will need to restore your home page setting if this happens.
    • Please be patient as this can take a while to complete depending on your system's specifications.
    • On completion, a log (JRT.txt) is saved to your desktop and will automatically open.
    • Attach JRT.txt to your next message.


    No run RogueKiller again per the instructions in the READ & RUN ME and attach the log.

    Also run MGtools as requested and attach the C:\MGlogs.zip file
     
  8. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Hi Chas, I tried to run the MGtools again before I got your last reply but at the end of the run the app was unable to create MGtools.log.zip so I have no idea what it found. I will now run JRT app and get back to you. How do I access the drive in the partition that holds the OS?
     

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  9. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Have now run JRT and attached the text file. The difficulty now is accessing the partition drive. Is there a "how to" on your site?
     

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    Last edited: Mar 5, 2013
  10. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    I had to uninstall Norton 360 as all areas of management were greyed out and unresponsive before running JRT. I have since enabled Windows Firewall and started Windows Defender although with the depth of corruption I have No Idea if any of my security features are working. Thanks for your attention. I have no idea how to reward you for this.
     
  11. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Right click on C:\MGtools\ReZip.bat and select Run As Administrator, then look in the C:\MGtools folder for a slightly different zip file named MGlogsR.zip Attach it to your next message.

    I'm not sure what you are asking or trying to do?

    Copy the bold text below to notepad. Save it as fixme.reg to your desktop. Be sure the "Save as" type is set to "all files" Once you have saved it double click it and allow it to merge with the registry.
    Make sure that you tell me if you receive a success message about adding the above
    to the registry. If you do not get a success message, it definitely did not work.
     
  12. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Hi Chaslang,
    Have done as you asked and received a note from registry editor that it was successful. Thanks for your help. What now? If everything is ok I don't need system restore anymore. I have something on here that I didn't authorise, there are many desktop.ini files that need to be deleted. I cannot access or change IPsec due to group policy? I had to uninstall my security system as I no longer had control of it. Could you tell anything from the logs I attached? The MGtools app appeared to be very efficient and finding copies of many files but the final message was unable to create MGtools log. Where to from here?
     
  13. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Just checked. There is no MGtoolslog.
     
  14. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Normal. They are part of Windows.

    Please try the below.

    Be patient while doing the below. The fixes can sometimes take quite awhile to run. Especially the permissions repairs. It may be best to kick it off and goto bed or do something else. It is better not to run anything while the repairs are going on.

    Download Windows Repair by Tweaking.com and unzip the contents into a newly created folder on your desktop.
    • Now run Repair_Windows.exe by double clicking on it ( if you are running Vista or Win 7, use right click and select Run As Administrator)
    • Now select the Start Repairs tab.
    • The click the Start button.
    • Create a System Restore point if prompted.
    • On the next screen, click the Unselect All button to first deselect all repairs.
    • Now select the following repair options:
      • Reset Registry Permissions
      • Reset File Permissions
      • Register System Files
      • Repair WMI
      • Repair Windows Firewall
      • Remove Policies Set By Infections
      • Repair Winsock & DNS Cache
      • Repair Proxy Settings
      • Repair Windows Updates
      • Set Windows Services To Default Startup
    • Now on the lower right side check the box to Restart/Shutdown System When Finished
    • Then make sure the Restart System radio button is enabled.
    • Shutdown any other programs that you are running now before continuing.
    • Now click the Start button.
    • Be patient while the tool repairs the selected items.
    • It should reboot automatically when finished.

    Now run the C:\MGtools\GetLogs.bat file by double clicking on it (Note: if using Vista or Win7, don't double click, use right click and select Run As Administrator).

    Then attach the below logs:
    • C:\MGlogs.zip
    Make sure you tell me how things are working now![/B
     
  15. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Sorry Chaslang, Should I disable all my defenses Norton 360, Defender etc. I have probably answered my own question as I see it on the page and should I disconnect my Wifi also? I will do nothing until I hear from you. Better to do nothing and be thought a fool than to do wrong and remove all doubt.
     
  16. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    OK. Have done as suggested and attached file. I'm not sure if system restore is working as I am loath to undo any fixes done during Windows Repair. There was no System Restore Point made when running the program even though it said a system restore point would be made. Where before I could not access my Norton 360, now, after reinstalling, when I check, it is available and the boxes, apart from silent mode, are all checked so I guess that is a plus. Group Policy Client in admin mode is on auto and cannot be stopped or started(all grayed out)
    IPsec Policy Agent is on auto and available so left it. Net Tcp port sharing device is disabled and these files are in the management system XJGEAREUBXBJC and ZTMISQG? what are these? also another desktop.ini file appeared on my desktop after running GetLogs.bat. Why did I get a Trend Micro EULA licence during the running of that file? It said it was for "hijackthis" so I considered it was a part of your MGtools file and clicked "I agree". So no way of checking if system restore works without undoing the work of your programs. I hope you can see what is happening from the file. Thanks for your help. I hope I am just paranoid.
     

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  17. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Why are you trying to run system restore? I did not ask you to do this?

    I don't know what you are referring to or why you are doing whatever you are doing. I did not ask you to do anything with policies or services.

    Don't know what you are looking at. "the management system" does not mean anything to me.


    Normal

    Was all explained in the READ & RUN ME where we asked you to run MGtools. You were given this link >>Using MGtools


    Your logs are all clean. Thus it does not appear to me that you are having any malware problems.
     
  18. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    ZTMISQG, XJGEAREUBXBJC These two files are in the Administrative tools/services/management.
    I still cannot set a system restore point. "System restore point disabled due to Group policy" Can you advise how to change Group Policy so that this very important service can be enabled. The Group Policy Client in Administrative tools/services is unavailable. As I am the only one with administrative permission to use this computer there must be another, illegal, administration account that is hidden from me and is able to manipulate the registry and permissions to set restore points and change the settings on my security software. Malware or very clever program that stops me from administering this laptop. Can you help please? I am asking you to give me back the ownership of this laptop. Thanks.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2013
  19. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Sorry chaslang, I'll try to elucidate the situation properly. I have recently returned from China. While I was there and staying in a hotel, I was advised to change the DNS to "Automatic Discovery" from my original IP address. This worked fine and I was able to connect to the internet wherever there was a Wifi connection. Later, when staying at my in-laws, I was connecting through a Wifi connected to a modem that was connected to my father-in law's phone line by ChinaCom officials. It was still on "Auto discovery" but seemed to work ok. Then I would notice the signal dropping out when I was playing Poker but always I could reconnect by running the "Diagnose and Repair" function. This situation became worse as time went by but I could always reconnect after two or three attempts. I never attempted to rectify this problem as I was only connect via telephone line and I considered that any attempt would be stymied by slow download/upload speeds.
    When I returned to New Zealand this problem was still prevalent and I attempted several times to reset my computer via system restore. My thinking was if I could reset to a point before the problem began then all would be well. DNS kept dropping out and would stay out maybe for an hour or two and whenever I tried to run "System restore" it would go through the motions but always the answer was "unable to restore system. no files have been changed" That was when I discovered my security Norton 360 Premium was unable to be accessed in any mode including "safe mode" and I was unable to set a system restore point. At that point I realised my computer was seriously compromised and I had no control over any of the important functions of my computer or my security software. What should I think about that? I was really worried by this and considered maybe something happened in China. I contacted the Belkin helpdesk and we reset my wifi with the IP address supplied by my Internet company. This has apparently worked and I have had no problems connecting to or using the internet. However, my concern is still that I have lost control of my computer. How or who could control my computer to the point where I have no privileges and cannot reset my computer no matter what I try. Please give me your thoughts on this. I may be the only authorised administrator but I cannot authorise any changes. Perhaps you can understand my concern? Thanks for listening. I have had these or similar problems before which have only been resolved by rebooting the OS. This has lasted a short time but always I have been shut out of any important control of my Computer. What do you suggest?
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2013
  20. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    There are hundreds if not thousands of posts on the internet with permission and or policy issues within Vista and Win 7 ( and I would expect that Win 8 will be coming soon ). Many if not most of these are due to problems within Windows itself and more often than not, the only fix has been a complete reinstall.

    Now that said you did have some malware, but I not really comvinced that the malware you had really caused all these problems you are having. The reason I say this is that we have removed the malware you had many many times and I have not seen the problems you have in those other cases. Thus while there could be a relationship, it does not seem like it.

    And also we ran Windows Repair and if you go back an look at it, it attempts to repair all permissions and policy issues.

    However let's try something to make sue the Norton is not at the heart of your problems and to make sure it is not getting in the way. Make sure from now on you only do what I ask and nothing else as you have been doing. Simple rule. If I don't ask you to do it, don't do it. ;)

    Uninstall Norton 360. And then also run the below for good measure since Norton typically does not uninstall properly.

    Norton Removal Tool (SymNRT)



    Reboot after running the above. After reboot continue.

    Make sure that Driver Manager was also uninstall with the above. If not, then uninstall this now.
    • Rerun the Windows Repair program and in normal boot mode.
    • Then reboot into safe mode and run the Windows Repair program one more time.
    • Now reboot in normal mode.
    Now run the C:\MGtools\GetLogs.bat file by double clicking on it (Note: if using Vista or Win7, don't double click, use right click and select Run As Administrator).



    Then attach the below logs:
    • C:\MGlogs.zip
    Make sure you tell me how things are working now! And remember not to do anything except what I have requested. i.e., DO NOT reinstall Norton!!!!! I want to make sure it was all removed properly and I want to see what problems you are having right now with it removed.
     
  21. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Dear chaslang, have done as instructed but still unable to create restore point. When I click "create restore point" window comes up that says "configuration is disabled by group policy" further down the page is another "restore point creation disabled by group policy". I uninstalled all Norton files that I could find.
    When I first downloaded and ran Norton removal tool an error window appeared saying this program had started incorrectly. Did I want to search for a solution online and shut down the program or did I just want to shutdown the program. I shut down the program. I input the url into the chrome browser and downloaded the NRT again. Double clicked and it ran successfully. Driver manager did not uninstall so did that before reboot.
    I ran Windows repair in normal mode, once in safe mode. right click and run getlogs.bat and attach log to this thread. Checked to see if System restore could be accessed and replied. One thing I noticed when repair was running each repair in the DOS command window the cursor was blinking under the DONE line then would come an increasing amount of numbers, once over a million with the word MODIFIED then the same amount with the word FAILED I guess you would know that from the log. Did it work or not?? Still can't create system restore point due to group policy. Thanks for your continued interest in my problem. I hope you agree that I should have access to system restore?
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2013
  22. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    You forgot to attach the log. Did GetLogs.bat run okay? Did it run all the way thru to the end where it tells you the location of the MGlogs.zip file? But I want to have you run a newer version of MGtools. So download the current version of MGtools and save it to your root folder. Overwrite your previous MGtools.exe file with this one.

    Run MGtools.exe ( Note: If using Vista or Win7, make sure UAC is still disabled. Also don't double click on it, use right click and select Run As Administrator )

    Now attach the below log:
    • C:\MGlogs.zip

    Yes you should normally be able to use System Restore.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2013
  23. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Hi Chaslang, I did attach the file MGtools.zip but in any case have attached the new log for your perusal. Unable to find defogger to ensure UAC was still disabled although I could see it in my files yesterday. I hope this log has uploaded properly. It says it has just like yesterday. I tried to find UAC control and got a website that told me what to do but it also said this will not work with Vista. Also have noticed all the software I downloaded Tdss, Rogue Killer etc all have the Microsoft security symbol attached to them
     

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  24. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Hmm, Hi chaslang, your silence is deafening. Have you found something or have you been too busy or / something else??
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2013
  25. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Sorry for the delay. Real work and life sometimes take precedence. ;)
    I don't know what you mean. Defogger has nothing to do with UAC. UAC is user account control which is part of Windows and you need to change by the method given in the READ & RUN ME. Your logs show that it was never disabled properly.

    I'm not seeing any problems in your logs or anything that has setup a policy to disable System Restore but let's try the below anyway.


    Copy the bold text below to notepad. Save it as fixme.reg to your desktop. Be sure the "Save as" type is set to "all files" Once you have saved it double click it and allow it to merge with the registry.
    Make sure that you tell me if you receive a success message about adding the above
    to the registry. If you do not get a success message, it definitely did not work.


    Now reboot and see if there is any change.
     
  26. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    My apologies for my impatience. I realize you work voluntarily but I lost sight of that momentarily, sorry.
    Well, that was an interesting exercise and an absolute failure. I tried to save the file as *fixme.reg*. When I set to *all files* the name disappeared from the top bar and I had to type it back in. Tried to save but it wouldn't allow me to. Changed the name to fixme.reg without the asterisks and could save it ok. Double clicked but the registry editor came up with a message that read
    "Cannot import C:\Users\Russell\Desktop\fixme.reg: The specified file is not a registry script. You can only import binary registry files from within the registry editor"
    So nothing happened. I copied the the edit exactly as you wrote it with asterisks to notepad. from after "Start quote to before End quote" ie: *REGEDIT4*

    *[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\SystemRestore]
    "DisableConfig"=-
    "DisableSR"=-
    * As the cat said curiouser and curiouser. Don't know where to go from here.
    My computer is a lot faster now after I disabled some start up files that I didn't need and all things considered, it is a much better machine than before you began work on it but I still have no control.
     
  27. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    I have saved all the software you suggested to my desktop in Admin mode and all the software now has a windows security icon on top of it. As per your instructions I did not delete anything from those programs even though it said I had done nothing with the files it had found and was I sure I wanted to quit? Does this mean that I have not changed anything or does this mean that if I did delete the files it found I would have totally corrupted my computer and finally nixed it? Black screen etc. Sorry, I'm not IT expert and have no experience with these programs.
     
  28. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    What in the world are you doing with asterisks???? Please read fixes in the forum and not from emails if that is what you are doing. No wonder you are having problems.
     
  29. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    I'm not sure what you are talking about. My last fix did not ask you to download any software. Are you referring to something from running the READ & RUN ME many days ago? If so, why? We are way past that now.
     
  30. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    That's what I was doing. Duh. Worked fine and I now have system restore working again. Thank you so much for your patience and understanding, and easy to follow instructions. I really appreciate your help. My paranoia levels are dropping and I hope I will not need your help again. Thank you very much.
     
  31. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    Hi chaslang, I have noticed that I cannot access any music, pictures or video files from inside my my documents folder "access denied" although I can from the
    sidebar. Why would that happen? Also have downloaded Windows update Tuesday patch and the files are on my desktop .exe files. Should I double click and install? I thought these files would automatically install from the update.
     
  32. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    also cannot validate my Windows OS so cannot download updates. What is going on? Much more than I/We considered. I am strapped financially and only get a sickness pension so taking it to a IT expert is beyond my means. I hope you can help!!! Thanks. I think that is why the KB files are on my desktop and not installed.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2013
  33. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    You have to be careful of which folders you are trying to access Microsoft stupidly creates folder/links that are for the system and not for you with the same name as your real folders. When you have system files hidden, you would not see the system files. So exactly which folders are you trying to access?
     
  34. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Why? What exactly happens? You should not be saving the updates to your Desktop. You should be allowing Windows Update to install them. But if you cannot validate Windows at Microsoft then you have a bigger problem and may need to call Microsoft to either reactivate your copy of Windows or to find why Windows cannot be validated.

    You had stated the System Restore is working now? How do you know? Did you perform a System Restore? If so, why? Doing that could just undo everything we have already done including reinstalling malware.
     
  35. russelllynn

    russelllynn Private E-2

    No No, I didn't do a System Restore although I possibly could now as I have access to it and a list of repair points since that last regfix for which I am very grateful. But now I have discovered that I cannot validate my windows and subsequently have no access to auto downloads.
    When I press start I get menu and click documents. That opens with all of my files on it and shortcuts to My Music, My Videos, My Pictures however I cannot access those files from those shortcuts. In the sidebar where all files are displayed I have no problems accessing My Music, My Videos, My Pictures. However, not being able to validate my windows is a far greater problem to me. I only discovered that when I tried to install the Tuesday Patch files that appeared on my desktop. I didn't save them to there, they just appeared after Windows update did it's thing. That's when I discovered that I couldn't validate my OS. This has never happened before.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2013
  36. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    That's normal. Those are the ones I was talking about that Windows does not allow you to access. The ones in the left column ( the sidebar as you called it ) are the correct ones to access but they are not under the Documents folder. You will also see Local Settings, My Documents, PrintHood, Recent, SendTo, StartMenu, and Templates in this side bar and you cannot acces them either. This is normal.

    You could try an older restore point ( something predating your original infection but I don't think you have any based on your logs ) to see if it will actually complete and if it fixes the problem with Windows validation, but this may bring back the malware and many other problems we fixed since you don't have any older restore points before the date you came here. Also I would not bet money on it fixing the problem. As stated, you may need to solve this thru Microsoft.
     

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