on Windows7.

Just when you thought Windows couldn't get any slower, this comes along.
(not quite what you probably think.)

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090619/tc_pcworld/windows7hitsanewlow

What do you think?

 

17 minute boot time?

Classic :-D

 

At least we know that it's possible.

 

Yeah. Get out of bed, fire up the computer, go make breakfast, come back and log in, go take a shower, come back and stare at the welcome screen.
Be even worse with a large startup list.

 

Windows 7 is obviously made to be tweaked. I've been running RC1 for a few weeks. They've sent me 37 patches and updates plus I've been getting ideas off the net.Could this be MS's newest dud?

 

Well, I just installed W7 X64 and besides the 3 that I got to get my mobo's ethernet and sound working plus ACPI and Defender definitions, there are only 8 real updates, none important or above, and 31 language packs waiting. So, how does this equate with 'another MS dud'?:confused It is an RC afterall.

 

I stand with Augie on this.
I have been running Windows 7RC since the first day it was available and after a short learning curve find it steets ahead of Vista (i liked that as well)
I think it's the old maxim that if it's new it can't be good and especially if it bears the name Microsoft.
If people would just try it and spend a little time with it they would see what a vast improvement it is.
Don't forget that when XP first hit the market it was a pile of :crap untill SP1 was released.
I have a copy of XP ultimate on one of my PCs and if i use it (very rarely) it is sooooo slow i can not believe i once thought it was the bees knees.

 

to Bill and augie
Did you follow the link and read about what type of system this is installed on?

 

Yes, of course. I was only replying to tonyw as was BillM. Actually, it's all tonyw's fault as he went OT but then this is the lounge eh?

 

I read the artical and understand it was a challenge to run it on Pentium II but my reply was directed at Tony.

 

I agree that Windows 7 and its support for slower hardware and its huge step forward in usability is great. I've got it running on my 1.6 celeron lappie with 768Mb RAM and apart from the lack of the snazzy Aero interface its every bit as fast as the XP and Arch Linux systems I use on this machine.

With the resources that Microsoft has at its disposal and the cold reception that Vista received, how could we expect any less?
The industry I work in has a similar sort thing going on, where the big player for countless years often accused of anti-competitive behavior has woken up their game due to recent bad press of their former product lineup and there now being some credible competition/alternatives.
Lack of competition causes complacency.
Competition will drive things forward and force all those involved to innovate and actually make something good.

It will take a while for the critics to settle down a bit with the anti-Microsoft sentiment, but, I for one am looking forward to the fact that Microsoft is done stagnating (I hope) and is once again moving forward. Hopefully we continue to see more innovation and better usability from all parties involved in the OS game.

Too right :major

anyway, sorry for the hi-jack I felt like writing something...
I can take this elsewhere if you like.

GM

 

Sorry for snapping, augie and Tim.
Who would have thought to use that system specs?

 

Looks like I invited flames by not really elaborating when I started this thread.
First a little background: I have been a MS Beta tester and Tech Net member for many years. I was also a MS Certified partner. I was invited to beta test XP, XP SP1 & 2, Server 2008, Longhorn which layer became Vista, both SP's. I sent in many bug reports and spent many unpaid hours doing my best to find bugs and incompatibilities. Some of you may not know just how hard it was to get the outside venders (Creative and Epson to name a few) to make Vista drivers. Vista was remolded several times so it could be released and be usable. It also brought 64 bit into the mainstream. About a year before Windows 7 began recruiting testers several events in my life occured which made me resign. The loss of my spouse, my retirement from business, the destruction of my house by lightning and a serious car crash all happened within a six month period. When I finally returned to the keyboard I found several invites to beta test Windows 7. Even though I considered myself officially retired I accepted the challenge. Once again I began to uncover bugs and send in reports. The 37 patches were in response to my bug reports. I built five rigs, from a simple P4 with 512K, AN AMD Dual core with 4 gigs and a monster which I love with a 3 card SLI video system on a server board with four quad core procs.
Windows 7 runs well on all the rigs I'm testing it on. I try to be flexible but I must stick with my comment about the extreme boot times. Others will have better results, some will have the same and a few will have even longer boot times. Don't take my Dud comment as anything other than a comment. It was based on the fact that under all that new looking, very impressive facade and hyped performance reports there lurks the bones of a long forgotten friend: NT5.
So Windows 7 is new, and there will be much debate on it's merits and it's faults but it's roots run very deep. It's sorta like a Model T with new sheet metal that looks Like the Mustang. But underneath it's still Windows.
Please don't flame me publicly. That's what the PM system is for. I'll answer and respond but unless you prove I'm wrong I stick to my original statement.

 

First, you don't have near enough posts for PM.
Second, you claim to have started this thread. I don't think so.
And I will personally stick with XP in any version.
And I think I will go put on my boots because it is getting piled pretty deep around here.

 

Well tonyw, thanks for explaining yourself as we now know where you're coming from. I was also a beta tester on Vista thanks to Wendy and I also fooled around with Longhorn since build 4051 as an enthusiast, nothing more. I can agree on the frustrations of Vista drivers and that Vista was over-hyped with all these million dollar seminars and finally came out with a product that was pushed out the door IMO.

As to inviting flames, I know these folks well and it was not flaming but curiosity as to why you would say this as there's many folks that just come in and just say 'Vista Sucks' etc. which does not add to a thread to which your latest post has done.

Welcome aboard tonyw.

 

Well Auggie and hrlow2, you've showed me the light. No further comments shall come from this keyboard about this topic - or anything for that matter.
I am now a lurker. Nothing more, nothing less.
Thanks for the education folks. School of hard knocks MG style.

 

It would be shame to loose someone of your experience just because of a misunderstanding.
My post certainly was not intended to flame you just to invite a comment.
We have so many new members that have in a post just said Windows X is a load of :crap without any reason why, i am not in particular bias toward MS (i also have Linux ) but just find comment without explanation unwarranted.

Hope to see you still posting.

 

My experience?:-D I'm still just a newb compared to lots of people here. I fully realize that.
Besides,my skin is way too thick for that to even tickle.
No way am I leaving any time soon. You're just stuck with me.
Nice gesture on your part. Very much appreciated.

 

I'm very sorry to hear that you took my comments as you did and if I inadvertently offended you then I apologize.

 

Let's see, 17 minutes I can fix some eggs, bacon hashbrowns and mybe take a few bitesrolleyes. That might work seeing how I.m a slow riser in the morning anyway.:-D Oh, Yeah the coffee. Can't forget the coffee.:hyper

 

That sounds really delicious 'trucks.
Maybe it will be fully loaded by the 2nd cup of coffee.

 

Ya think?:-D

 

If you wanted to maybe take a nap, just add a few programs to the startup list.

 

Apologies accepted but I'm still going to keep my trap shut for a while until I can get the tone of the board.

 

)

 

reminds me of this.

8MHz CPU and 20MB of ram...

they should retry that test with windows 7, and see how far they get :-D

 

Hmm, that sounds more like 286 specs, 8MHz CPU and 20MB HDD with 640K RAM w/384K extended or expanded. The linked rig is much different.