Help - missing or corrupt file

missing or corrupt file

windows wont boot... and it shows me a prompt screen of

<windowsroot>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

i dont have the xp software on me, anything i can do?

 

i need help really bad!!!!!!

i have a missing or corrupted file

<windowsroot>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

what can i do??

 

i woke up this morning and saw that message.... the missing or corrupt file one and it just wont boot up now.. is their any way i can do it without the disk?

sorry for that i wasnt sure how to post a thread then figured it out...

im stressing out because i have a term paper on that and cant get to it... sorry

 

yea i left it running over night.... actually i woke up early... checked it.. it was fine.. then fell back to sleep.. when i woke up again it had that message...
safe mode doesnt work, nothing does... just a black screen then a few minutes go by and that message comes up again

no its my lap top i just dont have any boot up disks for it... i moved and lost them.....
so im in a terrible position...

 

i have a recovery disk for xp professional... on the computer im using now... but the lap top is home.... will it still work or no?

 

You may be lucky with XP Pro disk, but no promises.
Go to this link, and read up, or hold it on the other computer to run through.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314477/EN-US/

 

Only try file acquisition, Method 2, as you could lose data, with a failed recovery with the wrong disk, so don't try to reciover it unless your system is XP Pro, and you have your XP numbers written down -

 

well is it worth trying.... my other computer is xp home.... and i have the xp pro cd's.... sooo should i just try that?

 

I have managed to run sfc /scannow from a XP Pro disc, on an XP Home system, that is why I said try the file changing as described in Method 2.
I would not try anything beyond those items, as you do not want to lose you data, DO NOT TRY A REPAIR INSTALLATION WITH AN XP PRO DISC ON XP HOME WILL GET PARTWAY, BUT, THEN YOU ARE LOST, AS YOUR SYSTEM WILL BE CORRUPTED, AND YOUR DATA LOST.

 

and how do i do file changing? or wat link can talk me through it?

 

alright so i tried recovery and did chkdsk /r and after that i got another missing or corrupt file....
winnt\system32\config\system

and it says to use the original set up cd rom...

what should i try doing?

 

Define did recovery.

If you mean you reinstalled the OEM recovery disk, then you have hardware failure, most likely ram. If you mean you did a Windows repair...then you will likely have to find a way to back up your data and do a new install.

If you mean that you merely did a chkdsk /r from recovery console, try this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

If you have another corrupt file afterwards, I'd still point at ram.

A good ram tester:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Memtest86_d4226.html

 

i used the windows xp recovery console thing...... and did the chkdsk /r and when it was done that new thing came on

and on the computer with the problem it has windows xp home i used the xp pro disk to run recovery.... im not sure what i can do... what do you think is the best way to go about this?

 

Follow my post.

 

ok well when i first used recovery it never asked for an admin password.. and it just asked me for one... i typed in the one i use to log on to windows... and it says its invalid... im stuck yet again

 

You should not type in a password, when it asks - by default it is blank, just press enter, and follow Adrenalynes directive.

 

when i press enter it just restarts....

it wont let me go any farther it first asked wat windows to log onto i press 1 enter... then asks for password... when i dont enter one like i said it restarts and when i try the one i have for the adminstrator to log onto windows before the problem it says invalid...

 

If, as Adrenaline says, you have faulty ram,or, as Chaslang says, a failing hard drive, you may still find errors showing.
Try as often as possible to get into safe mode, after each attempt with files, because if you can get into windows at all, immediately download your term paper.

 

alright... ive tried doing safe mode... i tried restarting from last safe state... and none of that works....

so is their no way to get past the admin password on the recovery disk?

 

ok i got past the password issue... i tried the link adrenaline gave me but when i enter the information it says access denied...

thanks to everyone who is helping me... im just very stressed about this problem

 

i followed the support and it wont let me repair the system part
copy c:\winnt\repair\system c:\winnt\system32\config\system
it said it cant find it...

 

i also tried this http://www.mzworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=1098#top
and it didnt work either

 

ive tried.... i think everything.... i dont know what to do any more.... any final suggestions?

 

Why are you using C:\winnt?

By default, Windows XP is installed into C:\windows

 

thats what my windows folder is though.....

 

My original link, method 2 was to --bootcfg /rebuild
As I said, if you go too far with the wrong disk, you could be in trouble.
I think others will agree that you need that XP Home disk to run a repair properly.

 

At this stage surely the most important objective is to recover the data.
I would read the hard drive on another system, depending upon the resources available.
One is to get a linux boot disk
Another is to resize the windows partition downwards , create a new one and install a second copy of windows, which will read the data on the first and may b even enable repair. This is the microsoft preferred solution.

The problem with this is that I would use partition magic, which can boot the pc by itself, to resize. Does any geek know a suitable alternative from the geek stable?


Studio T

 

I was hoping Studiot would 'pop' in - As Studiot says, it is easier to read off another drive, but I resisted offering this as you have a laptop, and it will probably be a 2.5 drive, so you would need to 'loose ' connect it, to your other computer, as it could be too small to fit anywhere.
I always use Partition magic, it makes partitioning pretty safe.
If you follow Studiots lead, and did install partition magic, you could use your other XP to set up a temporary(30 day) working system on your present hard drive, to read the original from.Otherwise, remove it from the laptop, and connect as a slave drive to your other computer - as long as you take the antistatic precautions, you would be o.k.
But , if you are not that well conversed with the inside of a computer, come back for step by step advice - You will get help from someone here.

 

Term paper? I guess you are a student of some sort. Take it to your school/college IT department/teacher/robot and explain the problem. It would be a pretty poor department that did not help out.

Studio T

 

ok... thank you.... i ended up finding a flash drive... and i go through the prompt with my recovery disk and copy them to the memory stick(flash drive)
so im saving all of my stuff. should i just re format it after and start all over or... should i take it in to get it fixed?

 

and thank you to everyone who has tried to help... i appreciate it very much, you guys are truly the best

 

Thanks for posting the end of the story it's always good to hear.

If you have the drivers, XP CD and upgrades it should take you 90 minutes to return to a full system, witht the confidence that nothing is lurking in the background.

If you don't have the drivers, see if you can copy any drivers folders from existing or look on the net for downloads. Tell us the model we can help here.

Your XP will be out of date for patches. An alternative way to connecting to Microsoft and chacing a massive update is autopatcher. This is also big but at least it's a straightforward download. You can make a copy and update at your leisure.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/AutoPatcher_XP_Full_d4901.html


Studio T

 

so last night i get everything back and working... internet starts working on it and wat not.... so i leave it on last night and this morning wake up.... its like hibernating.. so i hit power it goes to show windows and restarts and guess wat

missing or corrupt file
windows\system32\config\system

same shit....

is my hard drive ****ed up? i mean it was working fine...
so im not sure

 

Well, we hope you copied your term paper, as that was obviously your most important issue.
It does seem like your hard drive is suspect,

 

Have you tried safe mode, last known good, ?

 

If you can get back in to Windows, you can try this tool to check your hard drive.


http://www.majorgeeks.com/DiskCheckup_d3464.html

If you know the hard drive manufacturers name, you can download their own tool to check it.

 

So why did you leave it on overnight? What was it doing? and was it connected to the mains adapter?

And for the second time what is the model of laptop?

Studio T

 

i just closed the lap top it self and wanted to see if it got fixed... did i mmess something up??

its a gateway m505
do you any thing else?

so i just re formatted again to see if anything will be different..... its working alot better than it was last night when did this...

i used my xp disk from my home computer.... i cant register it huh??

i own the program... anything i can do?

 

Answer Studiot, and we might be of more help. Studiot is very good at these niggly problems, and one of the reasons he asks is probably because of power spikes, amongst other things, if you leave it on overnight.

 

the model..... gateway m505
is the model of the lap top.....
intel pent M processor 1400mhz
512 mb ram
xp professional 2002 service pack 1

anything else?? im not sure what else to give you...

 

The XP disc - you say - is from your home computer?
It is not valid on the laptop.
If you have the COA for your operating system, and it is XP Home, then you can only put XP Home on it as a permanent legally recognised Windows.
The Professional disc might be yours, but it is only valid on the computer first registered.

 

If you have the Windows COA (The Valid Windows Registration numbers), you need an XP Home disk to reinstall, for permanent use.
If you cannot borrow one, or, perhaps have someone do it for you, you are really on a 30 day notice to shut off your computer by microsoft automatically.- The blue screen of death.

 

soo my xp cd from my house computer.... wont work with the lap top... cant i just say i reformatted myo ther computer and the key wont work?

 

o crap i just read ur first reply sorry i didnt the first time....

even after reformatting??

 

It will work, --- for 30 days. It got you out of trouble - you got your Term paper - This is Microsfts liscencing.

 

OK XP pro. The hiberbnate mode has caused considerable heartache. So lets make sure the basic settings are right first. When a pc enters hibernation the entire memory is copied to hard drive. So I presume you have more drive space free than the memory size?

The group policy refresh interval must be greater than the hibernation interval.

First start in the bios and check that ACPI (notAPM) is enabled

Then right click my computer>properties>hardware tab>devicemanager
expand the entry 'computer'
check Windows recognises ACPI

Once this is done close all windows
start controlpanel>power options
Check the entries in the first tab for self consistency i.e. that things shut down in a sensible order and timing.
Set standby and hibernation modes.
Note the hiberbnation time.

On the advanced tab check the power, sleep and lid button settings

On the hibernation tab check hibernation is enabled and confirm you have enough disk space.

close all windows.

start>run>typein

gpedit.msc
In the details pane of group policy, under user configuration,
administrative templates>system>click group policy
double click refresh interval for users set to greater than standby or hibernation times.
double click refresh interval for computers set to greater than standby or hibernation times.

click enabled


close all windows and restart

See how this works out checking functionality was a good idea but you don't have to wait overnight.

Studio T

 

It seems I was composing my post whilst you guys were chatting about license stuff. Anyway you now know how to set the ACPM and hibernation.
Windows XP home does not have the Group Policy Editor.

Studio T