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Old 07-31-08, 20:10
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Its a MSD series 6 Ignition box for the Charger I got it from my buddy made him a offer of a Computer for it and he took it I gave him a computer hes been using for awhile thats been working his Plotter. He don't know if it works or not but anyways it will save me alot of money because if it works great if it don't MSD will fix it for $40 and that will save me from spending the $200 to buy one. All thats left to get now to hear it run is a MSD Distributor



I really need a new cam this one is too blurry its a 3.1MP but its 4years old and was only $50 at the time lol
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Old 08-02-08, 23:10
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I think i am gonna have a time getting this.
http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...=MSD8534/424.0


Maybe something will come up and give me the money i need for it. Something always comes up just as i need to get something.
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Old 08-02-08, 23:24
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Are you just going to bolt these on or are you planning a complete rebuild?
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Old 08-02-08, 23:55
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Oh jeez, you folks are talking black magik there! I usually just pay my mechanic to inject magic smoke into the engine as needed. If I don't buy my friends truck, I will be forced to do some work on mine...

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Old 08-02-08, 23:59
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Happy for you and the toys, no clue what they are but look pretty
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The motor? Yea i'm just gonna bolt them on for now to hear how it runs. Then i am gonna start on the wiring of the lights and such then the body and then pull the motor and transmission and rebuild them. Tho how the motor looks (No oil leaks and its painted) i think it may of already been rebuilt.


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A distributor is a device in the ignition system of an internal combustion engine that routes high voltage from the ignition coil to the spark plugs in the correct firing order. The first high-tension distributor was developed around 1904, independently by Napier, Bouton, and Winton.[1]
It consists of a rotating arm or rotor inside the distributor cap, on top of the distributor shaft, but insulated from it and the body of the vehicle ("earth"). The distributor shaft is driven by a gear on the camshaft. (Usually the distributor shaft extends to also drive the oil pump.) The metal part of the rotor contacts the central high voltage cable from the coil via a spring loaded carbon brush. The metal part of the rotor arm passes close to (but does not touch) the output contacts which connect via high tension cables to the spark plug of each cylinder. As the rotor spins within the distributor, electrical current is able to jump the small gaps created between the rotor arm and the contacts due to the high voltage created by the ignition coil.
The distributor shaft has a cam that operates the contact breaker. Opening the points causes a high induction voltage in the system's ignition coil.
The distributor also houses the centrifugal advance unit: a set of hinged weights attached to the distributor shaft, that cause the breaker points mounting plate to slightly rotate and advance the spark timing with higher engine rpm. In addition, the distributor has a vacuum advance unit that advances the timing even further as a function of the vacuum in the inlet manifold. Usually there is also a capacitor attached to the distributor. The capacitor is connected parallel to the breaker points, to suppress sparking and prevent wear of the points.
Around the 1970s the primary breaker points were largely replaced with Hall effect sensors. As this is a non-contacting device and the primary circuit is controlled by solid state electronics, a great amount of maintenance in point adjustment and replacement was eliminated. This also eliminates any problem with breaker follower or cam wear, and by eliminating a side load extends distributor shaft bearing life. The remaining secondary (high voltage) circuit was as described above, using a single coil and a rotary distributor.

http://www.msdignition.com/1helpmechoose.htm

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The motor? Yea i'm just gonna bolt them on for now to hear how it runs. Then i am gonna start on the wiring of the lights and such then the body and then pull the motor and transmission and rebuild them. Tho how the motor looks (No oil leaks and its painted) i think it may of already been rebuilt.
Oh forgot to say when it starts i am gonna drive it afew miles to see how the driveline is see if its shifts right and nothing bent out of shape.

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The motor? Yea i'm just gonna bolt them on for now to hear how it runs. Then i am gonna start on the wiring of the lights and such then the body and then pull the motor and transmission and rebuild them. Tho how the motor looks (No oil leaks and its painted) i think it may of already been rebuilt.


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http://www.msdignition.com/1helpmechoose.htm
Nope. You are wrong N56. Magic Smoke is not mentioned in that at all. Can't be true.

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Nope. You are wrong N56. Magic Smoke is not mentioned in that at all. Can't be true.

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Fred for me to fix your truck it will cost $32,000. it sounds like the hobbit that turns the crankcase is depressed and needs therapy. We need to get us a new hobbit. They's from the land beyond time. Land beyond time's also gonna hook us up with the unicorn for the radiator. I ain't even gonna tell you about that haunted air conditioner. Plus the air filter, that's made of plutonium. That's gonna involve Superman, so, y'know, plus shipping from Krypton. Then the cow jumped over the moon.
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I think i am gonna have a time getting this.
http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...=MSD8534/424.0

Hello NJ

I checked out the price for your item - it's only USD237.41 . I checked out that site for the type to suit my car and it's only USD382.10, convert that to AUD, looks like I'll be shopping for a reco unit.
http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...=MSD8352/424.0

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[QUOTE=N5638J;1194035]The motor? Yea i'm just gonna bolt them on for now to hear how it runs. Then i am gonna start on the wiring of the lights and such then the body and then pull the motor and transmission and rebuild them. Tho how the motor looks (No oil leaks and its painted) i think it may of already been rebuild

It's easy enough to see if it had a rebuild just drop the sump split one of the con rods and check the shells or take off the timing cover and check the belts/chains


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Old 08-03-08, 09:48
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Hey, one of those picts looks familiar... Timing chain? My truck runs just fine thank you. And on a Nissan, the air filter is made of Unobtanium, and the Hobbit thing is just way off. Ever hear of HORSE POWER... Somehow they got 130 or so of them little tiny horses in my engine.

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You need a lot of food for 130 horses

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on a related subject... how often does the rotor inside the distributor cap need to be replaced?
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normally the rotor does not need replacing but the distributor cap tends to wear on the contacts inside normally after years of use, the most common cause of a misfire is the leads some are a copper core and if that breaks inside it makes a bad contact others are carbon filled and IMO better but i would replace the leads at about 5 year interval if the motor is running OK

depending on the amount of mileage you do i would clean the contact set at regular intervals (every 2 to 3 months)

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You need a lot of food for 130 horses


Tell me about it! Me thinks the magic smokes gives them the munchies! Good thing for the corn being used in the gas. They can eat that...

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Fred for me to fix your truck it will cost $32,000. it sounds like the hobbit that turns the crankcase is depressed and needs therapy. We need to get us a new hobbit. They's from the land beyond time. Land beyond time's also gonna hook us up with the unicorn for the radiator. I ain't even gonna tell you about that haunted air conditioner. Plus the air filter, that's made of plutonium. That's gonna involve Superman, so, y'know, plus shipping from Krypton. Then the cow jumped over the moon.
Don't you just hate it someone stole your post before you even got a chance to make it huh? only joking of course

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Fred for me to fix your truck it will cost $32,000. it sounds like the hobbit that turns the crankcase is depressed and needs therapy. We need to get us a new hobbit. They's from the land beyond time. Land beyond time's also gonna hook us up with the unicorn for the radiator. I ain't even gonna tell you about that haunted air conditioner. Plus the air filter, that's made of plutonium. That's gonna involve Superman, so, y'know, plus shipping from Krypton. Then the cow jumped over the moon.
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It's easy enough to see if it had a rebuild just drop the sump split one of the con rods and check the shells or take off the timing cover and check the belts/chains
Yes yes and also a compression check as well. I will make sure i come to you if i need some help on something because it seems you might know your stuff
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*eyes glaze over* Thanks N5638J but I think I will wait for the finished product then drool on it
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