Cpu running too hot?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by jdr109, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. jdr109

    jdr109 Private E-2

    Hi. I wonder if anyone can help. I recently changed my CPU from an AMD Sempron 2800+ to an Athlon XP 3200+. Since installing the new CPU, the computer seemed to be running very hot - I downloaded Motherboard Monitor and checked the BIOS - normal running temperature is between 60ºC and 63ºC and can go 70ºC+ when under pressure (at which point I close it down for fear of damaging something...). From checking here and other forums, these temps seem to be way too high.

    I have cleaned the case, reapplied thermal paste (not the best quality probably - I've ordered something better), added an extra fan to the case but I can't get the temperature down.

    Do I need to change the heatsink/cooler on the CPU? And if so, what should I change it to? I using the one that came with the original Sempron and in the BIOS it says it's rpm is 3068.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
  2. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    Recheck your seating of the Heatsink, make sure it is tight and snug. During your boot up goto BIOS and note what temperatures are here and do they closely compare with the MBM temps?

    For that CPU the upper temp threshold is listed on this site:

    http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

    Those temps are concerning but you should compare the temps with several apps, the better ones are Real Temp and Core Temp.
     
  3. Stubby

    Stubby R.I.P. (September 3, 1949 - January 26, 2011)

    Welcome to MGs, jdr109!! I, also, am running an AMD 3200+ (Barton) and they do run warm. It's the nature of the beast! At present, mine is running @51 idle and around 56\57 under load. I changed my heatsink\fan combo to a TT Volcano 9, but before that my temps were even alittle higher than yours are now. According to the AMD site, the max threshold is 85c. Granted, you aren't real close yet, but like Bold Eagle said, those temps are of a concern and I'd recommend looking into a better heats\fan setup. Also, make sure your case is well ventilated.
     
  4. Stubby

    Stubby R.I.P. (September 3, 1949 - January 26, 2011)

  5. jdr109

    jdr109 Private E-2

    Thank you for the replies!

    Bold Eagle:
    The temps shown in the BIOS are exactly the same as those shown in MBM. I will also recheck the seating of the heatsink once I got some decent thermal paste!

    Stubby:
    Thanks for the link and the info on the running temps of your own system. I will probably try and locate a Volcano 9 somewhere in Europe first but it doesn't seem that they are that easy to find...
     
  6. Stubby

    Stubby R.I.P. (September 3, 1949 - January 26, 2011)

    I agree, a Volcano 9 will probably be very difficult to find. However, there's always the Volcano 12 to consider! The Volcano series is quite loud when run at the highest RPM. But, since the fan speed is adjustable, I'm sure you'll be able to find a good 'gray area' with good cooling and less noise. I have mine set at about 3800 RPM with good cooling and noise that isn't distracting.
     
  7. dlb

    dlb MajorGeek

    I ran a Volcano (don't remember the number) for a while a couple years ago when I had an AthlonXP 2800+ and it was L O U D ! ! ! So loud that my wife got all PO'ed and demanded that I "do something about that %#@!&%! computer!" Luckily, I do a lot of work at a friend's PC store and have access to all the parts I need and he had a box full of old socket A/462 HSF combos. I found one with an 80mm case fan that was all copper and it was real quiet (as case fans are) and it got the idle temp down to about 53c if I remember correctly. Under load the temp only went up to about 56c or so. Take a look at these:
    http://www.malabs.com/product.asp?product_sku=95240&item_no=FAN-5F263B&show=b&pass=&shopid=
    http://www.malabs.com/product.asp?product_sku=94885&item_no=FAN-A4004D&show=b&pass=&shopid= (copper base)
    http://www.malabs.com/product.asp?product_sku=96128&item_no=FAN-VA7245&show=b&pass=&shopid=
    http://www.malabs.com/product.asp?product_sku=96170&item_no=FAN-700BCA&show=b&pass=&shopid=
    http://www.malabs.com/product.asp?product_sku=96167&item_no=FAN-7000B&show=b&pass=&shopid=
    The site I've linked to is a wholesale distributor and the do not sell to the general public. I provided the links so you can see what is still available (including manufacturer part numbers) and maybe find them at an online retailer or possibly EBay. Good luck!
     
  8. jdr109

    jdr109 Private E-2

    Thanks for the replies, Stubby and dlb. I'm on the trail of the Volcano 12 through eBay at the moment. I kind of like the sound of this because as you mentioned, Stubby, you can regulate the speed (and the noise) depending on the temp. I think it will be difficult to find here so the request is on eBay US. I will certainly look into the links you have given, dlb, because really the problem seems to availability of these older parts...
     
  9. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    You like the sound of the Volcano... Its like having a train in your computer...:-D Seriously, if you can get by with it on the lower settings it is not bad. But if you rev up that screamer :***

    I have an AMD 4800 X2 I am setting up for someone with a socket 939 Volcano on it, and it is running at a partial load at around 36c on low. So if you don't overclock, you should be ok.

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