will this oc??

[dRiNkEr]

Gigabyte GA8IPE1000 P4 PC32xx SND
with
Intel P4-2.4 HyperThread Retail Box
??
also if u can tell me this mobo supports dual channel ram??
thankyou in advance ~matt

[exeter_acres]

I did a nutty thing... I went to the Gigabyte web site....

here is one line that might help...

Dual Channel DDR 400 provides promising framework for excellent performance

and after using that thar Google thing...found these.......

Description: "Overclockers would love this board for its simplicity and with all of the common tweaks available in the BIOS, the board will allow one to push the system bus speed to as high as 275MHz. In addition, the stability at overclocked speeds was excellent too. The performance of the board is below average at default but because it features partial PAT tweaks in the BIOS, the performance could be boosted by quite a large margin - putting it back in the same ballpark as other 865PE offerings."

and from another

Overclocking facilities are available, but things like manual memory timings can only be gotten to by a series of special keystrokes. This board seems adamant to keep you at arms length from pushing it to the limit.

Hope these help

[dRiNkEr]

thankyou very much, from what i've read, this boards FSB is nearly 275 mhz, i've seen some of the newer ones at 575mhz
or even 800FSB?

~thankyou, that did help a little =D

[exeter_acres]

... I am proud to thouroughly confuse another Geek!


I am an AMD user...so I am not sure how the Intel boards work...
but what they usually do is triple or quadruple the Front Side Bus to get the actually speed.....

ie: on my board if the FSB is at 166Mhz... the RAM speed is 333Mhz (roughly 166 x 2) etc. etc...

Confusing?

[dRiNkEr]

oh lol im not a geek hahahha but i still dont get it :S
my board sais 533 fsb... why is urs so low?

[exeter_acres]

its an Intel thing.....
AMD and Intel processors run at different speeds.....
is one better...? Now that is the question of the ages!

[Dizgruntled]

533 / 4 = 133.25 Intel MoBo's FSB are "Quad Pumped". In actuality the bus speed is 133 MHz x4 or 532 MHz, round up and viola, 533MHz. I too am an AMD user, my m/b's bus is 133 DDR (double data rate), so it is "double pumped" if you will bringing the FSB to 266 MHz, which with the AMD architecture, trust me is not slow by any means. Make sense?

[dRiNkEr]

hey mate, thanks for the info =D, ummmm my system is for gaming, would i be better off going for the 2.4 ghz HT p4, or the amd athalong 2600+ ??, oh and your SB Audigy... does it make a BIG difference in listening to music and playing games???

[Dizgruntled]

Okay, first of all, if you already have a P4 and a m/b to go with it, your fine for games. Performancewise, your honestly not gonna notice a huge difference. VIdeo card does have a lot to do with the mix too. My processor is the 2400+, and as my signature states, that runs @ 2.00 GHz. The name is supposed to represent what the chip will match or out perform, as in 2400 MHz or 2.4 GHz. In the picture I put on this thread, I used SiSandra 2003, how accurate it is as compared to others I couldn't tell you but it is more or less correct. My machine is represented by the light shade of red, the 2 (virtual)machines I compared it to are represented in blue, which sort of blends to a purple color. I compared it to a P4 2.00 GHz (same clock speed as my chip), as you can see it isn't even a fair test in multi-media or arithmetic performance. The second test is the P4 2.4 GHz (the speed the 2400+ is supposed to match or out perform), again, the 2400+ wins I even added in a better chipset (VIA KT266) than the one I have on my m/b (SiS 735). The chips are both extremely fast for gamers terms, and both will run just about any game on the market right now. So it goes down to personal prefrence, are you AMD or Intel?

[Dizgruntled]

Also, I forgot to mention, the P4 2.0 GHZ only has 256kb Cache memory, my AMD has 384Kb, and the P4 2.4 GHz has a whopping 512kb.

And, sorry, i forgot to answer your question about the audigy. For music or movies, its not gonna make a huge difference. neither of those are too demanding on today's systems. Now games on the other hand, yes it will make a difference. As games these days are very complex with features like A/I, 256-bit graphics and such, the processor has to work at it's best to make all of it happen. If your processor has to divide up it's power, say to an on board sound adaptor (ac'97 or equivalent types), and an on board video adaptor, the performance will lower dramatically. My girlfriend has an EMachine with both onboard Video and Sound and she is only running and XP 1600+ (1485 MHz...i think). Here computer will run the games, but they wont be anything to brag about. What the audigy does is take the strain off the CPU by processing and decoding sound by itself, leaving the cpu to work more efficiently on other parts of the game. So, if your motherboard has on board ANYTHING, chances are, an add-in card will work better (if it is of the same caliber of course) I would say its safe to add in your own video and sound adapter if you want the best gaming experience.

[dRiNkEr]

WoW!, thankyou very much for that huge reply :D :D , okay, so it is safe to say a 2600+ will outperform a 2.6ghz p4 right? even with HyperThreading??

i kinda like amd and p4 lol, amd has less L2 cache, but it is reliable...
lol, i do have an on board sound and video card... lol, but i just upgraded my grafx to 9600 pro, so now all is a SiS650 intergrated sound board....

[fleppen]

no a 2600+ will perform about equal as the P4 2.6 WITHOUT HyperThreading.

[Dizgruntled]

So how does H/T work anyway? I haven't really looked too much into it. Is it anything similar to QuantiSpeed on the AMD's?

[fleppen]

no, HyperThreading simulates 2 processors for the operating system. so in theory you could be doing two things at the same time more efficiently.

[ArborBarber]

Intel at the moment will out-perform an AMD...the 3.2 GHz chip is the one to beat at the moment. As for OC'ing your main concerns will be heat and memory...good cooling will go a long way when pushing your system. HT is somewhat of a bust for the gamer, you won't be scanning your system with an anti-virus program when playing UT...but if you wish to edit video footage and scan your system while composing an email you're covered(lol). Also memory will play a huge part in what you hope to achieve with your OC. The Intel 2.4 has some decent over-head and should yeild a good OC, provided you buy some decent RAM. You'll find that a 1:1 memory ratio will yeild the best results, it sounds to me(not to be sarcastic) that you should do some research on your intentions.If you intend on doing alot of gaming, a good video card and sound card is a must...most games today don't take FULL advantage of the video cards capabilities, but by this fall they will. If you enjoy listening to music on your pc you'll have to get some decent speakers, not to mention that alot of games are using 5.1 in their sound design, the Audigy II will serve you well, as for a video card ATI seems to be at the moment slightly ahead of Nvidia...but tomorrow is a new day!!!

[Fle@B@gL@ne]

no a 2600+ will perform about equal as the P4 2.6 WITHOUT HyperThreading

I have my XP2600 333FSB 2083@XP3200(2200MHz Plus 49 more) I test using Si Sfotware Sandra = to P4 2.8