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Old 04-09-10, 12:22
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Default Recognising Accents

Inspired by another thread.

Being an Englishman and living in Canada has really opened my eyes to the lack of recognision of where someone is from.

Now I have a fairly non discript English accent, mostly a Norfolk pronunciation but very little accent. Clearly English IMO.

When I meet new people here only about 25% of them guess I'm from England, now it' actually surprises me when they get it right lol
The majority of people think I'm Australian, I have kind of figured out why since to a North American the English and Aussie accents are smilar. On the other hand I've also been toutaed as a German and Italian and most oddly of all....an American.

Funny thing is this is an easily flippable subject, many people from Britain cannot tell the difference between an American and Canadian accent, I couldn't for a while.

So just wondering if anyone here is aware they can tell where someone is from by their accent when speaking English.

I'm quite sure many people from North America would be surprised by the amount of Aussie actors playing Englishmen and flipside many British people being surprised by the sheer number of very well known Canadian actors that we all think are American.
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Old 04-09-10, 12:34
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inspiring!


yeah I know what you mean Ned, it was why I mentioned Gordie in the other thread as I worked with a girl from Newcastle, who many in Liverpool thought she was from Scandinavia! My accent is not a Liverpool one, most have no clue, its more a mix of the proper Liverpool (not that crackly put on accent most have aquired these days, thats not scouse, if memory serves it was a mix of Lancashire and Irish, with some Norsk etc chucked in for good measure) and Lancashire accents, sort of as someone here coined "posh scouse",

I can tell alot of languages quite well, working in a hospital I get to meet folk from all around the world, from New Zealand to Canada (Bottom and top).
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I have to say, I have a very hard time telling the difference between and English accent and an Australian one unless they are very pronounced.

The funniest thing was when I was in London about 4 years ago. Two girlfriends and I were out at a night club. We were talking to these men and the one guy asked me if I was Australian. If you heard me, you would know I was not Australian. The only thing I can blame it on was the fact that the place was fairly loud. The other funny thing when we were there was how hard it was not only for us to decipher what the people in London were saying to us, but the fact that they didn't know what we were saying half the time. How can that happen when you are all speaking English??

Now American accents are easier to figure out if you live here. I live in Northeast. People can generally tell I'm from the Philadelphia area. Or they guess New Jersey.

I can tell a lot of times if a southern accent is from Georgia, Alabama, etc (or in that area) or if it's from over in Texas, Okahoma, etc. You can also generally tell a midwest accent. It's harder to determine a specific state since it's more an area thing.

I am not sure I could tell a Canadian accent. I knew one Canadian very well, and she didn't have an accent as far as I could tell.


Oh, and forget Irish and Scottish. They sound one and the same to me.
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Nofolk, eh? Guessed that from the fact that you support Norwich You got my sympathies, bud.

Accents in the UK are easily distinguishable, more so I think than Americans, I think. I mean, Scousers and Brummies, Geordies and Cockneys, easy. New Yorkers and Californians sound alike to me. Or is it TV and film that do that?
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Nofolk, eh? Guessed that from the fact that you support Norwich You got my sympathies, bud.

Accents in the UK are easily distinguishable, more so I think than Americans, I think. I mean, Scousers and Brummies, Geordies and Cockneys, easy. New Yorkers and Californians sound alike to me. Or is it TV and film that do that?
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I'm guessing it's all about where you live. English accents really sound alike to me unless it's 'cockney' (is that the term), and that's only because I saw My Fair Lady.

New York accents are one of the most distinct in the US. Actually, that's not true. Probably a New England accent is the most distinct. If you are from the US, you can generally tell.
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Some of the time accents can become hard to distinguish when say you move location for a number of years and you pick up some of the other areas accent, you gain a mix, that can be hard to tell where someone is from.
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My mother was from Belgium and I remember as a kid when I had friends over, and yes back then I did have friends, they never could understand what she was saying, and she spoke extremely good English, but with an accent of course.

Anyway, I have no problem with any European speaking English with an accent, it's almost a "native" tongue to me.

But put me in the South, esp. W. Virginny or Georgia, and it's like going to a foreign country to me! I used to have some very good customers in Georgia, and those people all insist on the small talk routine. I'd just sit there smiling and nodding, probably when they were asking about the wife and kids. Then they'd look at me like I had a screw loose of something. And I absolutely dreaded talking to them on the phone! That was next to impossible.

But Canadians are easy, it's all about the "eh". Aussies are easy too, it's all about the "barby". And English are easy, just don't eat their food, (I was once served kidneys, of all the disgusting things).

Scots are impossible to me, but I love their Scotch!

And the Irish are usually too drunk to talk anyway.
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Iam an american and speak english but many times my typing sounds like a kid or that I am dumb.
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First of all let me just say I love accents! Indian, Irish, British, Australian, etc.. I love them! I wish I had one but I don't although some people say I do

I can usually differentiate different accents but sometimes it's a little harder depending on how close they sound to another one. I have a lot of friends from different nations who have heavy accents and they all have the same problem.. they MUMBLE! So, half my conversations consist of me saying "what?" "huh?" & "say that again" and because they think that it's because I can't hear them, so they just mumble much louder! Then I have to tell them, "I can hear you but I can't understand what you are saying.. you need to enunciate!"
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Being an Englishman and living in Canada has really opened my eyes to the lack of recognision of where someone is from.

Now I have a fairly non discript English accent, mostly a Norfolk pronunciation but very little accent. Clearly English IMO.

When I meet new people here only about 25% of them guess I'm from England, now it' actually surprises me when they get it right lol
The majority of people think I'm Australian, I have kind of figured out why since to a North American the English and Aussie accents are smilar. On the other hand I've also been toutaed as a German and Italian and most oddly of all....an American.
I know what you're talking about... I'm Swedish, so I do have that accent, along with the fact that we were learning British pronunciation in school when they taught us English. Since I work in a call center, I talk to lots of people every day, and a lot of them ask about my accent or try to guess it. The vast majority think I'm German.

Every once in a while someone thinks I am English or Canadian, some think I'm Australian, and someone once swore to me my accent was from India!

I think it's what people are used to listening to and what they hear growing up. My dad worked with a lot of non-Swedes and exchange students on the local university campus, so I heard lots of accents growing up. I can't distinguish between the various English regions, but I can tell Scots from Irish, not to mention Brits from Aussies, and Germans from the rest.
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i have to say it depends on what your use to hearing here in oz its quite easy to tell some one form different parts of the world.Like the English have a very distinctive accent compared to an Aussie,same goes for the Americans clearly different in the way the words are pronounced and sound.We here in N.S.W have a American/Australian premier and can clearly here her accent.
If you have a keen ear you can even tell someone from the west coast of oz to someone form the east coast.sometimes i can even pick a banana bender " Queenslander" from a crowd.
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Some of the time accents can become hard to distinguish when say you move location for a number of years and you pick up some of the other areas accent, you gain a mix, that can be hard to tell where someone is from.
Yep, that's basically what has happened to me. Many pick it as English, which figures, since I was born there and spent my childhood there. Some swear I'm an Aussie, (okay, I have spent a long time here). Others think I'm American, which I guess figures, since I spent a fair chunk of my early life in Calif. Others pick up my inflections/expressions from Sweden, Rhodesia, (Zimbabwe), Where I've also lived. Some just get confused, .

To me, I just sound basically English, with some international influences. I do occasionally get people staring intently at me when I'm talking, and I ask them what's up. Then they usually say something like "I'm just trying to figure out where your accent is from". I can then either tell them the long version, or just say I'm English and have done with it.

Picking accents is not too hard if you're from that neck of the woods, but others often just have some kind of stereotype they think sounds like something or other. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose, as long as I'm understood, I'm happy.
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I am not sure I could tell a Canadian accent. I knew one Canadian very well, and she didn't have an accent as far as I could tell.
The basic Canadian accent is a lot like North American TV accent, with the exception of a few words. Then there's the Newfies, and, those guys from Quebec, now thats an accent. It sounds like there speaking another language.

I think the TV accent is changing the way people talk. A couple of years ago I was watching "The Simple Life" (Paris and Nicole). Now don't ask why I was watching it but I was. They stayed at a house in Georgia with a family...Grandma, Grampa, Mom, Dad and kids. The seniors were tough to understand, Mom and Dad were better, but the kids almost had the TV accent. Exposure to media.
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I live just 30 miles from England and speak dutch, most people hear my accent and guess i am English but on several occasions i have been told my accent is German.

Here in Belgium you can go 10 miles in any direction and the accent is distinctly different and as long as it is spoken clearly i can understand but if you go to Antwerp even my wife who was born in Brugge has trouble as for me i just speak English there as most Belgians have an understanding of the language.

I have to admit i can not distinguish between Canadian and American English.
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I think I may have a different accent for you here!

I was born in Scotland, but moved Down here to manchester when I was just 10 years of age. I got a bit of stick at school for my accent, so very quickly I picked up the local Tongue to be normal and speakthe same as everyone else.

But still, even now I can switch to the broad scots and back to the manc as quick as I like!

The funny thing is, I will be talking to someone now, in a completely manc accent, them not having a clue that I am actually scots, then I will come out with a word that is extremely Scottish, and I literally cannot pronounce the English way!

If I talk to a scot, I sound Scottish, to a manc, I sound as local as they do! I think the name for it is an "accent magpie".

PS - sorry if my grammar is bad, I am using my iPhone which is hard to type on!!!
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lol So my thinking was right, we got people from the US can understand the US but not Britain or Aussie, people from Aus who can't tell the US etc etc.

Now accent changes in the UK vary, people often say "Cockney" as Laura mentioned, to be Cockney and true cockney you must be born within the sound of Bow Bells, otherwise you're just a Londoner and London has many different accents but movies and TV as Joey pointed out show us very limited accents, same for UK'ers with Americans. Living here I've heard a lot more different US/Canadian accents that are very different, Florida accent for example is fairly easily distiguishable from Georgia, Nefoundland is very different to Vancouver and same is England, I can drive 5-10 miles (depending where I am) and hear a disticnt accent change.

What amuses me is working out how accents came about, if you look at Britain, you have Queens English which is a central accent for the most part, the further south you go the accent falls into an almost Old English farmer style, head north and get to Yorkshire, Manchester etc and it's almost a mix of English and Scottish, head over to Liverpool and you can hear Welsh influence.

@Mimsy... Sweedish to Indian? some people eh, I know exactly where you comming from lol
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May I add South Africa to the confusion ?
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lol Funny you should say that, I've been mistaken for SA before, which is weird since they are clearly a different accent, more Dutch twang to it......but yeah, thanks Darlene
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First of all let me just say I love accents! Indian, Irish, British, Australian, etc.. I love them! I wish I had one but I don't although some people say I do

I can usually differentiate different accents but sometimes it's a little harder depending on how close they sound to another one. I have a lot of friends from different nations who have heavy accents and they all have the same problem.. they MUMBLE! So, half my conversations consist of me saying "what?" "huh?" & "say that again" and because they think that it's because I can't hear them, so they just mumble much louder! Then I have to tell them, "I can hear you but I can't understand what you are saying.. you need to enunciate!"
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Yes, I'm aware of your accent (it's been a while since you've thrown a skittle at me on here, hasn't it? )
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