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Old 07-04-14, 16:52
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These aren't cops anymore....seems that every jurisdiction around now brainwashes these fools to think they are military (believe it or not most of these cops couldn't get into the military for one reason or another)..hell look how cops dress nowadays.....like stormtroopers....is why they have no social life except with other cops.....who the heck wants to hang out with them?
So many have an attitude thinking that because they have a badge they can do whatever they want....they forget the taxpaying citizens are paying their salary and they work for us....don't know what the lady did there but whatever it was it didn't deserve the beating she got.....I hope they crucify that cop, but more than likely he will only get suspended with pay while an "investigation" is done (by cops) and be back on duty again....these a**holes should be held accountable for their actions the same as the rest of us.....screw their damn badge and send them to jail.


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Old 07-04-14, 18:11
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How many law enforcement officers are out there vs. the small handful of police brutality videos you see?

To stereotype all of them because of a few bad apples is silly.
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Old 07-04-14, 18:25
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I am reminded of Rodney King and the subsequent 1992 Los Angeles riots in which 53 people were killed and over two thousand were injured.
This could slip down the same slippery slope.
California Highway Patrol officers don't get their training in Mayberry [the Andy Griffith show].


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OK, my opinion, you have a video that shows part of what happened. Did he beat the crap out of her, maybe. What else happened? What was she saying? After the incident, was she on drugs? Was the officer punished?

I am concerned with what I see as the militarization of the police.
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OK, my opinion, you have a video that shows part of what happened. Did he beat the crap out of her, maybe. What else happened? What was she saying? After the incident, was she on drugs? Was the officer punished?

I am concerned with what I see as the militarization of the police.
Does'nt matter what she was saying.

It is disgraceful - couldn't the cop just restrain her?

I usually defend cops - not this time.

We'll all be paying a HUGE settlement.
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It looks bad, I agree. And the more I read about it, I am starting to believe that police officer should be demoted to inmate.

I was just being cautious forming an opinion, because from that video, you don't necessarily get the whole 'picture'. If she was hopped up on 'bath salts' and had hit the officer several times before the video, and was screaming that she was going to kill him, and tried to get his gun...? I would think a trained officer could restrain someone a bit less violently.
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It looks bad, I agree. And the more I read about it, I am starting to believe that police officer should be demoted to inmate.
Not only do I think he should go to jail ( and lose any and all pension benefits) I hope that he is in a cell with Big Bruno, who can really show him what a beating/love-fest really is.
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These aren't cops anymore....seems that every jurisdiction around now brainwashes these fools to think they are military (believe it or not most of these cops couldn't get into the military for one reason or another)..

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Not getting into any of the rest of the discussion, because all I know is what I've seen on the news and that is at best hand-picked information. I try very hard to not form an opinion based on a YouTube video or a clip someone else decided was the information I need to come down on a side.

However, the above quote was interesting...where I live, a great number of the police officers, be it city, county, or state, are former military members. So to say most of them couldn't get into the military sounds odd to me.
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Not getting into any of the rest of the discussion, because all I know is what I've seen on the news and that is at best hand-picked information. I try very hard to not form an opinion based on a YouTube video or a clip someone else decided was the information I need to come down on a side.

However, the above quote was interesting...where I live, a great number of the police officers, be it city, county, or state, are former military members. So to say most of them couldn't get into the military sounds odd to me.
There is good and bad in every group. I know a few cops personally, and a few online. Good peeps.

I do question the militarization of our local police. But probably a topic for another thread. Lots of former military peeps in law enforcement. And most of them do well.

I am still curious about the whole story on the lady being beaten.
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I live down the street from a local cop. He is a really nice guy in a tough job. Two years ago I had to testify that he was not normally a violent person. 17 years on the force and he had his first brutality charge. He was guilty, he hit the guy due to verbal abuse. He got a suspension and went back to work. He is back doing his job.

Before you judge a policeman for brutality be sure to ask yourself:
1) would you do his job?
2) if you did his job could you restrain yourself?

We need to know the whole story or we are just acting on emotions.
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I live down the street from a local cop. He is a really nice guy in a tough job. Two years ago I had to testify that he was not normally a violent person. 17 years on the force and he had his first brutality charge. He was guilty, he hit the guy due to verbal abuse. He got a suspension and went back to work. He is back doing his job.

Before you judge a policeman for brutality be sure to ask yourself:
1) would you do his job?
2) if you did his job could you restrain yourself?

We need to know the whole story or we are just acting on emotions.
OK I see your point of view on this one. And no I would want to do his job.

You have to think it through a little further to the next level.

I ask you this: What would have been your neighbor's whole story if he had killed or seriously injured the guy???
What if the CHP officer in the video had killed or seriously injured that woman??

How many millions are the California Tax Players on the hook for????


I don’t care what kind of a bad day your neighbor was having at the time. His training should include restraint and good judgment.

Our police forces are the only institutions that serves and protects our society from anarchy.

It was only verbal abuse and there are cameras everywhere.


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OK I see your point of view on this one. You have to think it through a little further.

I ask you this: What would have been your neighbor whole story if he had killed or seriously injured the guy???
What if the CHP officer in the video had killed or seriously injured that woman??

How many millions are the California Tax Players on the hook for????


I donít care what kind of a bad day your neighbor was having at the time. His training should include restraint and good judgment.

Our police forces are the only institutions that serves and protects our society from anarchy.

It was only verbal abuse and there are cameras everywhere.


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Not everyone is as perfect as you are. To err is human....

Police break the law sometimes. They are human. Criminals break the law, and sometimes it is on accident. They are human.

See a pattern here? Nobody is perfect.

If the above or DOA's story ended in tragedy, the law is the law. It has no emotion. It punishes those who break it. It doesn't mean we are becoming a police state or that barbarians have suddenly infiltrated the police. It means you get punished for certain actions, accidental or not. Nobody is asking for pity to be taken upon police officers who pull this kind of crap.
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I would think a trained officer could restrain someone a bit less violently.
They aren't trained to take people down less violently. They are trained to defend themselves in a split second because that's all it takes for someone to kill them.

I had a friend, a couple years back, who was drunk and walked into our local police station waving around a loaded gun with a pocket full of ammo. They shot and killed him. At first I was furious, why couldn't have have shot him in the arm or leg, why did they have to kill him?? Then, as I talked with people about it, I understood a little better that they are trained to have to make split second decisions. It doesn't mean they want to kill people but it's life or death situations.

Now don't get me wrong, there ARE some really bad apple cops out there, who do what they want, when they want, to whoever they want but they are by far by the minority. To say all cops are power hungry, egomaniacs who just want to beat up people who won't do what they say is an egregious assertation.
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Not everyone is as perfect as you are. To err is human....

Police break the law sometimes. They are human. Criminals break the law, and sometimes it is on accident. They are human.

See a pattern here? Nobody is perfect.

If the above or DOA's story ended in tragedy, the law is the law. It has no emotion. It punishes those who break it. It doesn't mean we are becoming a police state or that barbarians have suddenly infiltrated the police. It means you get punished for certain actions, accidental or not. Nobody is asking for pity to be taken upon police officers who pull this kind of crap.
No I am not prefect.
I just seen a lot life and I noticed a pattern.

I ask you:
Why is it that in so many police academy training films; the cadets are wearing black balaclavas???
Why are policeman wearing black balaclavas????
IMO the police forces are slowly changing to some more than a police force.


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No I am not prefect.
I just seen a lot life and I noticed a pattern.

I ask you:
Why is it that in so many police academy training films; the cadets are wearing black balaclavas???
Why are policeman wearing black balaclavas????
IMO the police forces are slowly changing to some more than a police force.


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Black balaclavas? You're watching footage from the Middle East again.
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No I am not prefect.
I just seen a lot life and I noticed a pattern.

I ask you:
Why is it that in so many police academy training films; the cadets are wearing black balaclavas???
Why are policeman wearing black balaclavas????
IMO the police forces are slowly changing to some more than a police force.


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Police training films? What wacko websites do you go on? Sounds like you need to visit some non-propaganda ones.

That video of that woman is atrocious and chances are that cop will be suspended or fired.

Fact is, though, I find most of those videos and the lack of perspective asinine and irresponsible. Its the same as what goes on in every aspect of our so called news...whatever is the most dramatic attention grabbing view of an event...that is what is portrayed.

Amazing how we never see what happens to the cops prior to them "assaulting some poor innocent victim".
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No I am not prefect.
I just seen a lot life and I noticed a pattern.

I ask you:
Why is it that in so many police academy training films; the cadets are wearing black balaclavas???
Why are policeman wearing black balaclavas????
IMO the police forces are slowly changing to some more than a police force.


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What you wear defines what you do?


Maybe those "training" videos are undercover officers?
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What you wear defines what you do?


Maybe those "training" videos are undercover officers?
Well, it is a police academy, I guess some of them have to be the 'bad guy'. Can't play cops and robbers with just cops.
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Well, it is a police academy, I guess some of them have to be the 'bad guy'. Can't play cops and robbers with just cops.
Yeah, can't be having homofficerous relationships going on.
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CHP says the officer asked the woman to stop, but she refused and continued to walk away from him.
"A physical altercation ensued as the pedestrian continued to resist arrest, at which point a plain clothes, off duty officer assisted in applying the handcuffs," the CHP said in a statement given to KABC.
It really does depend on things unseen in videos.
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