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Old 04-16-12, 06:50
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This isn't about guns, gun control, anti-gun laws, or any or that crap. It's supposed to be an eye opener on honing and improving your safe practices.
It ain't the loaded gun, that's scary. It's the owner with a loaded gun that doesn't know it is is a tool designed to kill.
A gun is never safe, only used safely. Remember that and there will be far last accidental injuries.
Or less kids killed like the 3 in Washington State, were this last week, because they found loaded, unlocked guns, in their or their friends homes.
Here is the accidental shootings, in the past 24 hours. Quite a few.
http://www.google.com/search?q=3+kid...w=1366&bih=604

And at the top of the list: 4-year-old Tyler boy dies from accidental shooting
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Old 04-16-12, 08:18
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I'm sure that the owners here, yourself included, practice them to the best of their own abilities.
But no one is perfect.
Everyone slips up on occasion.
No amount of preaching it or beating them over the head about it is going to change things.
It's all part of being human.
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"I do that by reminding myself, that this one of the very few TOOLS, who's only purpose is to kill."

Total bs. A gun is made to fire a projectile to hit a target. Ever hear of skeet shooting? IDPA competition? Isn't shooting an Olympic sport? I know it used to be.

More people are killed per year by cars. But you say the several million guns in the US were made only to kill.

Rock on Gloozit. Good luck with that trigger lock and finding your bullets in the dark if you ever do need it. I hope you don't.
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This isn't about guns, gun control, anti-gun laws, or any or that crap. It's supposed to be an eye opener on honing and improving your safe practices.
It ain't the loaded gun, that's scary. It's the owner with a loaded gun that doesn't know it is is a tool designed to kill.
A gun is never safe, only used safely. Remember that and there will be far last accidental injuries.
Or less kids killed like the 3 in Washington State, were this last week, because they found loaded, unlocked guns, in their or their friends homes.
Here is the accidental shootings, in the past 24 hours. Quite a few.
http://www.google.com/search?q=3+kid...w=1366&bih=604

And at the top of the list: 4-year-old Tyler boy dies from accidental shooting





"About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States -- one death every 13 minutes." number of people killed in automobile accidents per day

Note back to post one in this thread where I mentioned safe storage of guns depending on who you live with...


A little OT, but Gloozit, do you think guns are salient things?

"You can use it to target shoot, but it's soul purpose is to kill."

Or did you mean sole purpose?
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...."You can use it to target shoot, but it's soul purpose is to kill."

Or did you mean sole purpose?



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Fred:
I believe you meant "sentient", didn't you?
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Fred:
I believe you meant "sentient", didn't you?

Don't be so picky about a simple typo you... Wait...

" describes an angle that projects outward from a polygon" Yep, that is what I was thinking. Kinda. Sorta.
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Now we're talking about trajectory?
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Yes, both trajectory and potential trajectory should always be considered when handling a firearm.
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Old 04-16-12, 11:25
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"About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States -- one death every 13 minutes." number of people killed in automobile accidents per day

Total bs. A gun is made to fire a projectile to hit a target. Ever hear of skeet shooting? IDPA competition? Isn't shooting an Olympic sport? I know it used to be.
Why do you keep comparing cars and guns???
What I get from that, is, it is OK to continue to have preventable accidental deaths or injuries, by guns, because more people die in cars.
And BS??? What was the first gun designed for? Killing, not shooting skeet or targets.
Yes, it fires a projectile and the original intent for that projectile is to kill. And it always will be


I like guns, I use guns, but I will not lessen the danger, like you seem to be trying to do.
Not stepping back one inch on that.
I've also had time to become safer. Made no sense to have a locked gun sitting next to the key. May as well have just left it sitting out for everyone to see.
And I found I can get out of bed, grab it, walk to the bedroom door, and grab the magazine, (on top of the door sill, where NO kid can reach it) and be loaded before I go past the bathroom.
It now makes sense to me to have an unloaded gun for protection and if I don't have time to load it, it does make a damn good club! Still serves it's purpose, protection.


And as for the wrongly spelled word, they have a smilie for a reply here, but I'm pretty sure if I fly that bird, I'm done.
Grammar Nazis @MG lol
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All I can say is this, I practice safe gun policies in my house and all people living in said house knows where my gun is, that it is LOADED 24/7 and it is off limits.....PERIOD. (that actually only applies to my son) My wife has her own gun as well & heck if I know where she keeps it, but that's her gun (and I'm pretty dang sure it's loaded too) I don't have any friends close by so I never have visitors other than my oldest son. All my friends are far from here but they all know I carry when I travel & as far I can recall, they all carry as well. Our closest friend is a 60 yr. old woman, she carries a Glock btw & has multiple guns. I really don't practice with targets anymore, don't see the need for it, I have guns to defend my family from the riff-raff that seem to be everywhere (and don't practice gun safety) Oh, and all the cops around here know I'm armed as well and I think they kinda like it cause they know my street is safe
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Yo Sam.

That is precisely why the USA is safe from attack.
They would have rifles and shotguns aimed at them from every window.
Plenty of hunters and discharged veterans around.
Not to mention all the street gangs that would like nothing better than have a valid reason to pop a cap or two.
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I keep comparing guns and cars to make a point. You say guns are unsafe. I say if used properly, they are perfectly safe. You can get killed in a car obeying all safety laws, and many more people are killed by cars than by accidental death by a gun.

The original reason a gun was made is not relevant.
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Japanese Admiral Yamamoto said that attacking America was a stupid idea, because there would be a gun hiding behind every blade of grass.

And if we have 14 times the number of deaths/accidents/what have you's than other industrialized countries, don't forget to take into account population differences. Somewhere with 4.2 million people is naturally going to have 14 times the amount of anything than one with a mere three-hundred thousand.

I personally feel we get a little too enthusiastic about 'safety'. Somewhere, you have to draw the line between safety and functionality. Most gun rules suggest that it needs to be stored locked up, with a trigger lock unloaded, and separate from the ammunition. That's fine, if it's in a club, or somewhere you're not going to be using it.

If it's at home for self-defense? That's just going to see you killed and the gun eventually used to commit a crime. I'm willing to accept the consequences and responsibility for having the gun loaded and within reach, in exchange for the security it provides. I think the problem is perhaps that not everyone is willing to do that.

It has however been said that: You never need a gun, until you really need one.
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^^ What he said.
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The whole point of me sticking to my guns, is now, just about every way to look at gun safety has been looked at.
Not just a link and a set of rules. Or a bunch of good ole boys agreeing with each other.

Some of ya, if not all of ya thought about your gun practices. And hopefully, someone in the background, listened in, and changed a bad habit of theirs.
Always know what is down range and up range because you guys were in my sights, since my first post.
Didn't hurt any, did it?
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Your intent has been plain throughout your posts, and in my opinion it was not just to promote “gun safety” overall. Your choice of words and stereotypical sayings give you away. You stated that handgun carry permits should not be allowed. You have the right to that position; however don’t try to hide your disdain for those of us who support the right to carry behind some kind of safety related agenda. I’m not buying it.

I have never understood the mind-set that passing laws to limit a private citizen’s right to carry a weapon is a panacea for all gun-related problems. I have served in the military, been a police officer, and routinely carry a handgun everywhere I go. You might argue that I have extensive training in firearms, and this is true – but I can tell you I am far more concerned with drunk drivers and criminals with guns then I am with any law abiding citizen who has a license to carry but may not have the level of training that I have. Firearm accidents are terrible, and preventable . . . but so is any other fatal accident. Accidental deaths due to firearms don’t even make the top 10 forms of accidental deaths, according to data on the CDC site.

Most accidents, by their very nature, are preventable. Gun safety, and safety in general, is a very, very important consideration. The vast majority of gun owners are very aware of that (as are the vast majority of motor vehicle owners of vehicle safety, for that matter). I am willing to believe you are concerned with gun safety . . . but you certainly have an odd way of espousing it.
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You stated that handgun carry permits should not be allowed.
Would you quote me??
Because I am pretty sure I did not say that. I believe in guns being carried, by individuals that aren't going to get themselves killed using them.
Training is important and I've said that all the way through this.
I have never taken the stance that guns are bad, just dangerous and they are with the mindset of some in here regardless if they think themselves safe or not.

Waiting on that quote
BTW did any of you bother to ask my credentials or if I have a carry permit or own a gun shop? Too late now.
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Very first post by you, post 12, you state that you were against gun carry laws.
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