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Old 07-20-12, 18:16
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Read here about why keeping an active Guest account is not good practice:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb418978(TechNet.10).aspx

You should make another account for limited access/daily use.
Ok, is there now a way to change the 'Guest Account' into a legitimate/every day use Account?

What will become of my Bookmarks I already started placing there?
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Old 07-20-12, 18:19
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Cipher, Thank you for the 'Guest Account' referral article I just read. in it it states "The Guest account is disabled by default in Windows XP Home Edition. However, only the guest's ability to log on locally is affected. The account itself is not disabled for incoming user connections from across the network and can still be used with simple file sharing."

I have the Windows XP Professional uploaded on the Laptop. Does this change anything?
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Old 07-20-12, 20:40
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Microsoft makes conflicting comments:
"We do not recommend that you disable the Guest account."
then later:
"By default, the Guest account is disabled in Windows XP Home Edition and in Windows XP Professional."

I have run many XP boxes with the guest account disabled. Never had a problem. In addition to the Admin account, I will sometimes create a regular user account named Visitor with a strong password for other people to use.

When I worked in a 1000+ user environment, we disabled the guest account and never had any problems with users accessing network resources. Never. I am a loss to explain Microsoft's ambiguity (see above) on the issue, however my real life experience tells me that disabling the guest account is a good thing. My home network has guest disabled and everyone can access network resources, i.e. the printer, just fine.
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Old 07-23-12, 19:05
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Cipher, I'm a Bee keeper now in my old days, and I like your picture but the stinger is on the wrong end of the bee!

I am confused now as what to do about the 'Guest account'? I started to use it as a 'regular account' because I thought that using the machine under 'Administrator is verbotam! Can I just change the 'name' of the account without losing any bookmarks in it? Thanks,

Oh, and I saw where there were only 8 members (!) online now but 800!!!+ visitors. I will check back tomorrow for my answer because NOW I realize how busy you helper bees are!
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Old 07-23-12, 21:19
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I would export the bookmarks to an HTML file, save somewhere secure. Then disable guest. Create new account and limit the priviliges,import bookmarks to the browser from that account. Part of the issue with the guest account is that everyone knows the name of that account on your computer.
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I would export the bookmarks to an HTML file, save somewhere secure. Then disable guest. Create new account and limit the priviliges,import bookmarks to the browser from that account. Part of the issue with the guest account is that everyone knows the name of that account on your computer.
Cipher, Thanks for the what to do; but I don't know how to do anything you suggested. The setup of the laptop is confusing me because I've spent so much time reading the stuff here I am bewildered by the lot of it.
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Old 07-24-12, 12:12
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This is so frustrating because I don't understand the terminology that folks trying to help me are using. It's like a foreign language to me. I thought I was doing the right thing by not using the computer under the 'administrator' account and opening a 'guest account' but now it's giving me a huge headache because I have to undo everything I spent a week doing. please someone here help me fix this so i can use my laptop computer. I am unable to continue asking for help if i don't understand what is being said. I know Major Geek said not to allow a stranger to use the 'remote assistance' help, but I'm getting more frustrated every day I try to make this work safely. Maybe one of the senior geeks here will have pity on me and spend 5 minutes to get me basically on the right track. I downloaded and installed all the suggested programs for safety already. and the machine is clean. All I need is someone to help me fix my mistakes. What is taking me hours would take someone here 5 minutes.
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Old 07-24-12, 12:56
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OK, here goes: Open Firefox if that is what you use. If you use another browser, let us know, we'll show how to export bookmarks from it. At the top, click the Bookmarks tab. Then select Show All Bookmarks. Click the Import and backup tab. Select Export Bookmarks to HTML. You will be given a a choice of where to save them. Move them to a USB stick to be safe.

Now logon to the new limited access account you created from the admin account to use as your day-to-day account. Open FF and do the same as above, only this time choose Import Bookmarks from HTML.

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Cipher, Thank you for explaining it so I could understand it. I'm low income so don't have a usb stick yet, which I mean to say I only get out to the store once a week. I put it on my list to buy one.

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Now logon to the new limited access account you created from the admin account to use as your day-to-day account." I need to be told how to do. How do I go about setting up > limited access account from the Administrators account? Thanks.
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Cipher, Yes, I set up the laptop to use Firefox as the browser, as that is how the desk top model is set up.

What is good about having this desk top model is that I can be logged in here on Major Geeks and ask the questions and then turn to my right and work on the laptop model with the answers you folks post for me. This way I am doing what you ask/post in real time, and if I get a glitch then I can re ask before I have to undo what I did wrong on the laptop model. Thanks a bunch for explaining that last bit on bookmarks to me. I'm doing it now.
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Cipher, Thank you for explaining it so I could understand it. I'm low income so don't have a usb stick yet, which I mean to say I only get out to the store once a week. I put it on my list to buy one.

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Now logon to the new limited access account you created from the admin account to use as your day-to-day account." I need to be told how to do. How do I go about setting up > limited access account from the Administrators account? Thanks.
I read, and I read, and read some more and figured this part out. So now I have a 'Limited account' setup to 'use daily online browsing'; and the 'Administrator account' for only computer security and changes. I think we're making progress by Joe!
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Old 07-24-12, 15:10
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Now, new question...Do I have to install or reinstall any of the things that are setup under the 'Administrators Account' under the 'Limited Account'? I'm asking about Malwarebytes, Avira, etc, or does it cover everything done on the laptop under all the accounts?

Still no 'umbrella opening' with the Avira under the 'Limited Account'. I 'deactivated' the 'Guest Account' and it is now 'Off'.
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Old 07-24-12, 17:51
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Read: http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/BC/bcs4p9.html to see how to configure your taskbar. The software is there. When you installed Avira, was there an option for making it available to all usersor just the admin account you installed't used Avira in a long while, i forget the install options it presents... it from? If you chose the later, a reinstall might be in order. I haven
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OK, here goes: Open Firefox if that is what you use. If you use another browser, let us know, we'll show how to export bookmarks from it. At the top, click the Bookmarks tab. Then select Show All Bookmarks. Click the Import and backup tab. Select Export Bookmarks to HTML. You will be given a a choice of where to save them. Move them to a USB stick to be safe.

Now logon to the new limited access account you created from the admin account to use as your day-to-day account. Open FF and do the same as above, only this time choose Import Bookmarks from HTML.

Keep us posted...
UTOH! I am now in my new to me 'Limited Account' but unable to get my 'bookmarks' that i 'saved' out of the 'documents'. Where did they go from the 'guest account' when I did as you told me to in your post above? I don't have a 'USB stick', so I 'saved' them I thought to 'my documents'. Whoa is me....
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Ok, so I did everything that the fine folks who posted here instructed me to do to get my (new to me) old laptop up and running (safely). I now have the 'Administrator's Account' setup and working; the 'Limited Account' set up and working, which is the 'account' that I'll use daily online. ALL of the 'programs' ie, Avira, Malwarebytes, Commodo, CCleaner, Mozilla, and my Linksys Wireless, are running under/on both accounts.

Are there any other 'programs' I need to upload/download now to have my laptop running safely and secured online to browse/read the Internet? Remember I only have 512mb of memory (and just had another birthday myself!) so go easy on me.

Only glitch now is finding where all my 'bookmarks' went from my 'guest account' when I 'exported them' into my 'documents' from the 'guest account'?

Otherwise Ladies and Gentlemen of Major Geeks, you should all take a bow and get a big pat on the back for getting an older geezer up and running on an older laptop in under a lifetime! Chuckle! I mean, less than 3 weeks ago I thought I'd never be able to get this laptop working safely to use online.

What a fine group of folks you have gathered here on Major Geeks. I promise never to laugh at a Geek joke the rest of my days.....Now, if any of you are having problems related to your gardens, or livestock send me a private email and I'll try to help YOU out. Now there's stuff I know about!!
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With 'Commodo Firewall' that I uploaded/downloaded it came with 'Commodo Geek Buddy'. Is this a part that i should keep on my computer or discard? I can't see using it and want to keep life simple on my desktop (heck I only have so many years left to read the Internet! Chuckle!).
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I run Comodo without the Geek Buddy. You should be able to uninstall it. From the admin account, open a web mail, Gmail whatever, and attach the html doc to the mail. Send it to yourself. Then open mail in the limited account, and read the mail, DL the HTML file and import from there...
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I run Comodo without the Geek Buddy. You should be able to uninstall it.

Thanks Cipher, this next bit I am trying to decode. From the Admin open a web mail (account?, as in register?). "attach the HTML doc"< where do I find this item?

From the admin account, open a web mail, Gmail whatever, and attach the html doc to the mail. Send it to yourself. Then open mail in the limited account, and read the mail, DL the HTML file and import from there...
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Freetime,
I have been a member here for a few years. Read some of my posts and you won't be so embarrassed.
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Ok a bit slower and clearer. (And don't worry, like Sheena sez you aren't the only one ;-)

Logon to the admin account on the computer, the one you would use to load software with. When you exported the HTML bookmarks from firefox, it should have created a document called bookmarks.html. Double clicking that will open firefox and list the bookmarks. You can attach that to a gmail that you send to yourself. There is a "attach files" button right below thw the Subject box.

see:
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You can open the gmail account from any computer account you logon to. So it will be easy to download the attachment and fire it up and import the bookmarks to firefox if they are not already there.
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