html - can i lay one image on top of another in FrontPage?

[wolfdogg]

I'm doing a webpage... and my page header is a bunch of pics. On top of that, I was hoping to put a rotating text gif. Unfortunately, FrontPage (and maybe html in general?) won't let me put the gif anywhere without deleting what's below it first. Is there any way to do this?
Much thx!
jk

[Kodo]

you will probably have to use CSS and positioning to accomplish what you want in the manner you want to accomplish it.

CSS tutorial
http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

otherwise I would say, make it a flash animation.

[goldfish]

If you used a background image and then a gif with transparency, you could achive that effect

It would be advisable to learn some HTML and CSS before trying that though

[BeerMonkey]

For flash try swish.
www.swish.com

[goldfish]

Have a look through the code used in the header. Its quite clever, it uses a PNG with transparency over a background. The filenames are a bit misleading though :

http://www.flexistentialist.org/

[Kodo]

FYI, png trans doesn't work in IE..

[wolfdogg]

First off.. thx to all for the help! GlennK.. thx for your offer. I was going to take you up on it.. and then I saw what Goldfish suggested and it worked like a champ! After creating a table and just inserting a background image, I could add the new gif anywhere I wanted.

And the final result is.... http://www.springfieldsolutions.com/whatsnext/

Thanks everyone! You all are 2 for 2 in helping me here.

Good day!
jk

[Kodo]

there's a problem.
the size of that animation is
241.99 KB

That's HUGEEEEEE!!!!!!! dial-up users will curse you to die a horrible death.
I would urge to you try to resize that animation for physical byte size , remove it, or use a flash banner in its' place.
:

[wolfdogg]

Hmmm... I guess it is bigger that I realized. Curse those dial up users! I hadn't really noticed it was that big. I'm glad you pointed it out. I will have to work on correcting with some Flash.. thank goodness for Swish!

Thanks for the advice.
jk

[wolfdogg]

Hey Kodo (or anyone of course),

I got the same image down to 115KB now. Do you think that's small enough or still a bit too big?

[Kodo]

30k.. that's acceptable.. any standard image on a main page should be around that size. 115k is still way too big.

Remember, dialup users are more likely to leave if the site isn't finished loading. Don't make them wait. The average load time that people are willing to wait is 8-10 seconds.

check this out
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

[wolfdogg]

Good stuff. Thx Kodo! Thx to all.

jk

[Kodo]

you're welcome guys.

[Adrynalyne]

Originally Posted by Kodo

FYI, png trans doesn't work in IE..

It used to.

In IE 6 SP2, RC2, it worked.

In final, it doesn't, at least for me.



Its completely retarded.

[Kodo]

I wasn't aware that it ever worked. Funny, it works on IE for mac.. :

[goldfish]

Works for me (sp2 final)

[Kodo]

hmm.. now I'm curious. Because the lastest chat log for IE development said they weren't supporting it. I will check this out , but I know for a FACT that it doesn't work on win2k sp4 IE 6 latest.

[goldfish]

this = confusing.

*ARGH*!!*

Only smarties have the answers

[goldfish]

That optimising engine is a bitch. I'm not allowed to have images in my blog, apparently, because that brings the whole page load to over 30k ::

I've managed to get the page load time to 30 seconds on 56k... isn't that good enough?!!?

[Kodo]

30 seconds on a 56k? would you sit there for 30 seconds on a 56k?

oh, tried trans png on my SP2 IE6 latest and it didn't work.