"Beer 101"

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by LauraR, Jul 19, 2007.

  1. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    I'm sure none of you have any interest in beer or drinking (;)), but I was reading an article in my cooking magazine (Fine Cooking) about beer and how to serve it.

    One quote (paraphrase actually) on what temp to serve it: 'Be careful not to serve beer too cold. Serve light lagers between 48F and 52F (9C to 11C) and lighter ales between 54F and 58F (12C to 14C). Heavier ales and lagers up to 65F (18C).'

    Now, I may be really American in this, but the only temp that sounds even close to how a beer should be is the 48F one. There's nothing like an ice cold beer. We had a so called "English Brewery" open up around here and they served the beers at the higher temps and ended up have to go colder because people were complaining too much.

    Is this an american thing? A nice cold beer?
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2007
  2. Yargwel

    Yargwel MajorGeek

    Well obviously I'm not an expert in such things :wine but here in good ol' blighty we like our ale at around 54 to 57F.

    And on the few occasions I've had "english" beer in the States I always have to let it warm up as its horrible when it's too cold - just like american beers are disgusting when too warm. :D
     
  3. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    When I visited London this past february, we spent a good amount of time in the pubs. The pubs are awesome...much better than our bars, but towards the end, I needed something cold and picked whatever I could out of the little fridge they had at the bar. I was in a great English pub drinking a Smirnoff Ice cause it was cold. :D
     
  4. laurieB

    laurieB MajorGeek

    i used to drink wine in england, Liebfraumilch for the most part, occasionally a french red, or an italian rose. (but i have been known to drink a little brew called hurllimans). on arriving in hawaii i discovered the need to drink something lighter still, (one simply cannot spend the day drinking wine on the beach) and discovered ice cold stienies. bliss
     
  5. musksnipe

    musksnipe Guest

    That's some good wine, my favorite for summer. :wine
     
  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    All lagers should be cold, but Ales and Traditional Beers ( ooooh could murder a Cains IPA right now ) should be warmer and not ice old, they taste bad, and the flavours are subdued the too cold, just need to be chilled very lightly.

    Beer or lager at freezing temps, will only numb your tastebuds so you dont get full flavour IMO, but by the time if your location that your drinking in is hot, then by the time you onto your second mouthfull, the beer/lager will be half way to room temp so most likely tastes better than first mouthfull.
     
  7. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Alco pop for kids its has more sugar and sweetner than a coke:D

    There are a couple of types of beer drinkers here two main ones are young "HIP" lager drinker a la me :D who want it really cold,frosted glass cold because it quenches your thirst better IMO and the heavy drinkers, the older guys who drink bitter or stout,most of these guys can really drink I think if they were drinking ice cold bitter at the speed they drink thier brain would freeze up,alot of them say its because they want to taste it but it isnt is because when its a bit warmer they can drink it faster and get wasted :D
     
  8. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    roflmao...you think I don't know that smirnoff ice is basically soda?? it was a sad state I was in. :D

    All I know is that as soon as beer starts getting warm, it tastes nasty to me....heavy or light beer. I don't drink dark beers though, so not sure about them.

    How about drinking out of a bottle?? Yes or no? I like the bottle most of the time. I noticed in the London pubs, they were mostly on tap though.
     
  9. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I like beer out of the bottle but in the pub its gonna get an expensive night really fast and it doesnt compare to a good draft beer,what we do is just get a pint of house lager if its any good stay on it if it aint start drinking bottles or see what offers are on:D
     
  10. Lanfear

    Lanfear Private First Class

    There is a reason that U.S. beers are served ice-cold and I believe that Monty Python best summed it up... "american beer is like making love in a canoe... its f'in close to water." Most of them need ice crystals in them just to be palatable.... Just gimmie a pint of Guiness and a spoon, cuz its a meal in a glass.
     
  11. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    roflmaoroflmao

    That may be true, but I had English beers...they could have done with some ice crystals in them.
     
  12. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member


    Yes I prefer bottled lagers in pub, but would only drink Ales/beers from tap and glass, real ales only good from tap, especially Guinness.
     
  13. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek

    The beers and lagers are cold but not chilled here. You have to ask for a bottle from the fridges if you want it chilled.
    Traditionally here, it is always cold,windy and rainy, so the last thing you want is a cold drink! Cool to quench the thirst as it is difficult to down lager/beer quickly when it is too cold. :)
     
  14. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Just a side note, since Guiness was mentioned above...my husband's family owned the brewery that became Guiness a long long time ago. They sold it to them for the huge sum of 20 pounds (or so) a year for 50 or 100 years. They have the deed for the sale and all...unfortunately, as you can tell, they weren't good business people. LOL


    The one thing I liked about the pubs.... pint or 1/2 pint. We were going from pub to pub and realized pretty quickly that there was more alcohol in the beers we were drinking than normal and the 1/2 pint was looking really good.
     
  15. MrPewty

    MrPewty MajorGeek

    One annoying thing they do here in Canada is to serve it in a frosted glass. It's gotta be warm enough to taste, fer pete's sake...
     

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  16. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member


    Frosted glass + ice cold beer = PERFECT!!! :D
     
  17. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    Some beers, taste great at room temp. I.E., All stouts.
     
  18. Lev

    Lev MajorGeek

    Now you've all finished talking about fizzy gnats pee, let's talk about real English beer (bitter)..... :D
     
  19. Phantom

    Phantom Brigadier Britches

    I do like a pint or so of English bitter, or Stout on occasion. It's mainly a climate thing in these parts. Served cold, 'coz it's too darn hot in summer! Anything to cool of when it is 40+ deg.C outside. ;)

    That said, at this time of the year, when it's only about 16 deg. C, I don't have my pints too cold. Some taste better from bottles, but the heavier ones are usually a lot better from the tap. Depends where I'm drinking, too. A bit had to take the pub beer barrel home with me (as much as I'd like too, LoL!), so sometimes I have those special 500ml cans (with that plastic thingy in them), that preserve the creamy goodness and good head. I'm mainly a spirit man in winter.
     
  20. MrPewty

    MrPewty MajorGeek

    Wychwood. They make the beer in my thumbnail. Beautiful stuff. I've never tried the Dogs Bollocks though.
     
  21. laurieB

    laurieB MajorGeek

     
  22. Lev

    Lev MajorGeek

    It's perfectly smooth and slips down a treat :) Try it sometime, MrPewty.
     
  23. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek


    Real Scottish beer is the stuff that makes hairs grow on your chest :D
     
  24. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    Thought I liked beer until years ago I was working from like 8 to 8 while the owners business was disappearing up her nose. Anyway - a few doors down there was a deli / catering place where being alone was the only place to get something to eat. Also being alone I would order a beer to go with my lunch. When the owner of the deli found out I liked beer she would call me from the back door to try different kinds of imported beers, I soon came to the conclusion I was not a beer person after all. Lite beer / light/ weight. :puke LOL
     
  25. Dougster

    Dougster Private E-2

    "The beers and lagers are cold but not chilled here. You have to ask for a bottle from the fridges if you want it chilled.
    Traditionally here, it is always cold,windy and rainy, so the last thing you want is a cold drink! Cool to quench the thirst as it is difficult to down lager/beer quickly when it is too cold."

    Rubbish. why then have all the Scottish brewers introduced extra chilled pipes and (yes I am aware it's marketing) re-branded many of their products 'Ice Cold' or similar? I'd rather have a colder pint of Tennents than anything pored through the old tap.

    I suppose you are from Edinburgh though and like your beer like the English 'warm' ales. ;)

    :D

    P.S. I'm from Glasgow, Smeatonland!!
     
  26. sd420

    sd420 Private E-2

    I'm a redneck gimme PBR in a can cold as ice its a good drunk!
     
  27. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    OMG...are you my neighbor???

    heh...jk. My neighbor has been on a pbr kick for the last year or so. Brings them over for us and everything. He's trying to convert everyone. :D

    LOL That's for sure laurie! We were useless as far as any other site seeing goes.
     
  28. Lev

    Lev MajorGeek

    Oh agreed...oh for a pint of 70/ and 80/ with a whisky chaser to boot :p
     
  29. MrPewty

    MrPewty MajorGeek

    Love to, but I've never seen it. I can't even find Hobgoblin here in Alberta. I have to pick some up when I'm visiting Vancouver.
     
  30. sd420

    sd420 Private E-2

    I like homemade persimmon wine also. Now that's country!
     
  31. Dougster

    Dougster Private E-2

    60/-, 70/-, 80/-, 90/-: 60 shilling, 70 shilling, 80 shilling, 90 shilling
    ale, all terms for Scottish beers. They equate, very roughly, to mild,
    light, heavy and strong (usually called a pint of 'export') with ABV (alcohol by volume) rising through-out the range.

    The term comes from the tax levied per barrel. So the stronger the ale the more you had to pay.
     

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