For the Bush Supporters Out There

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html


Who supports this idiot?

Satan is keeping a spot warm for him, I have no doubt.

 

More words of wisdom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fo9...ed&search=bush

 

He is at that.

 

Not to defend the dumbass Haliburton tool from Texas, I always wonder about that myself.

But you would think that if that was the reason for the veto, he would have mentioned it. I know I would have mentioned it by name, and who tacked it on.

 

I do.. regardless of his decisions, he is our lawfully elected Commander in Chief. Did I vote for him? No. However, as the figurehead of this nation, he should be shown the respect due his position.

 

Respect is earned.

Not 'owed'.

 

Better spent being bad at business than spending it killing people/getting people killed.

That much spent--in 5 months in Iraq if you believe the numbers being thrown out.

 

I told myself I would stay out of this one, but I have to commend you for saying that. More people should think that way, imo.

 

Cant argue that.. However, The PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA should be shown respect! Whether you agree with his policy or not. He is still the leader of this fine country.


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Thanks, Dyamond

 

IMO, a president needs to earn the respect of the people.

Earn.

 

Blind trust, faith, and respect? We should respect someone because they are a smooth talker(well, was)? That he played the political system and won?

No, thanks.

 

He apparently had the respect of enough Americans.. else why would he be elected?

 

Seen recent polls?

Winning an election is not based on respect, and its ludicrous to think it is.

 

Why vote for someone you dont respect?

Polls now are relatively pointless.. he is a lame duck.
Still, his position is one that deserves respect.

 

LOL....

Why do you respect him, if you didnt vote for him? Just because he has the title of president?

 

Think you just might have just omitted a few adjective's in that statement LauraR. The adjective's Dumb/Immoral/Corrupt/Incompetent/Biased/Dangerous all come to mind, but then I could be wrong, and I am certain someone will tell me soLOLLOL

It always amazes me that when I travel and the American President George W. Bush comes up how every where, they laugh and just dismiss him as a bumbling Idiot, that has damaged his countries Economy, Image, Social Network, Science and Moral stance Worldwide.

The American Dollar is falling, the countries Image is falling, the countries Social fabric is crumbling, and the National debt is the highest in the G8. All of this well other nations are doing the exact opposite. Man, I just don't know how much more of a "Wake-Up" call the Americans need. There is going to have to be a ton of repair work done to many facets of American Government, before the bleeding can be stopped.

Such a shame for this to happen to such a great country, and people. Unfortunately as goes the U.S.A. so goes its allies, regardless of how hard we try to stop it.

Anyway thats my thoughts for what its worth, and will quitely sit back and read what others have to offer.

 

Probably has something to do with my up-bringing.. respecting authority and all that 'nonsense'.

People have to stand up for what they believe.. right or wrong. Who are we to say their beliefs are wrong?

 

This is biased, but just an example of promises made to win elections, that are quite different in reality.

http://www.failureisimpossible.com/needtoknow/campaignslogans.htm

Elections are won on lies! Respect? LMAO.

 

And that would be more or less the point I have been trying to make.

 

Ahh, your pulling me into this discussion!! I wanted to stay out so you dont get mad at me agin LOL

But now onto my point there are SEVERAL other presidents that have done things SEVERLY wrong and some of them are still respected and admired. Bush is the ONLY president I've seen so much bashing for. I mean soon he's going to be blamed for the sun going down so early rolleyes.

 

At some point, being an adult and all, you decide what is 'right'. Up bringing is an excuse. It may flavor reasoning, but does not substitute for self consciousness and reasoning. Respecting authority like following laws? Sure. Respecting what a president does to hurt my country, deny help to children, yet burn funds on war, get others killed, and garner a considerable amount of hate against my country? Sorry, not gonna happen.

Thats how I look at things, anyway.

To each their own.

 

Amen Laura.

 

If by going down early, you mean nuclear winter, yep you are right.

 

Think that pretty much sums it up right there.

 

I think you worry too much about popular opinion and let others (media) form your opinions for you.

 

My point of posting that was to show that elections are won on lies, not respect.

 

I think if that were the case, I would be relying on my up-bringing too to form my opinions.

I'm curious how you have information not gained from the media yourself.

 

Nice one.

Never said I did.. was more of an observation that the majority of you posts of the topic seem to parallel popular opinion.

 

Perfect.

 

Alan Greenspan told President Bush that America was going to have another recession and Bush said "If it's pretty, can we have it outside" LOL

On a serious note. I picked up Alan Greenspan's new book The Age of Turbulence last night, just scanned it so far but it looks good.

Steve

 

A pretty powerful thing to say, especially when you consider it came from a President.

 

Do you think being of an 'unpopular' opinion makes it the right one? Opinions become popular when a lot of people have views that are in agreement with each other.


GMTA?

Maybe so. Maybe so.

 

I didn't say my opinion was right.. Nor did I imply your opinion was wrong.

 

Saying that I 'worry' too much about popular opinion would imply that mine is wrong.

No?

 

No. Simply that i question that it is your own.



Help me out here.. what is GTMA?

There is no right or wrong opinion.. simply differing views.

 

Well, GTMA?

No idea.

GMTA--Great Minds Think Alike.

 

Thanks

 

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/i/4/simpsons_warpresident.jpg

 

Theres this massive stigma about socialised or even government subsidized medicine going around America like its the first step to social downfall and the rise of communism

Seems the stigma is strongest with most people in the white house and those who run insurance companies,strange coincidence :confused

We have socialised medicine as does every other country in the western world and its pretty darn good,you dont get a dinner menu but everyone in the country gets treated and excellent treatment at that,even those pesky homeless people.

 

Might I say, this is durn fine discussion we have going here..

I am not against subsidized health care.. but I do believe that it should be for those who need it. Not those living on above average incomes and simply choose to not pay out the cash every month for health insurance.. I believe somewhere that in the bill that was vetoed there was a joint annual income limit of $90K?

 

is that not crap? I mean.. average the two.. and its $60k who cannot afford health insurance when making $60K per year? I know a ton of folks making less than half that .. and are covered..



Who really thinks this messed up system can be lain solely at Bush's feet? every election I can remember health care has been the top issue. No one will fix it. We are a Capitalist society.. until that changes, the almighty dollar will be the deciding factor in virtually ALL governmental decisions..

 

Health and education should be totally free for all.

They are basic human rights and as such should not be subject to a class system.


It is very dangerous to give someone your respect just because of their position.
As Adrynalyne mentioned - Respect has to be earned
It has no value or meaning at all unless it is earned, once it is earned it has to be maintained. A lifetime of doing the right thing should earn you continued respect, there is no other way.

As voting is not even compulsory in the USA, it can only be an assumption that the majority have voted anyone in.
This appears to be a voting system that is flawed for the simple reason that it is the disillusioned who do not see any point in voting.

The rich vote because they know it can make a difference and they vote to suit themselves. They can afford health insurance.


BTW: If GWB is responsible for the state of the greenback, I personally would like to thank him from the bottom of my wallet
1 AUD = 0.883688 USD

Now, if I can only talk Newegg into shipping to Australia

 

The children of those who are on social welfare are still entitled to health care and education in Australia even if their parents do not pay tax.

Obviously this does not make it free, in a capitalist society there is a monetary cost for everything.
I would prefer to see my tax dollars spent in positive ways such as health and education, rather than on war and free holidays for politicians.