Psychic gets 1 1/2 years for 'bilking' 200G

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by COMPUABLE, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. COMPUABLE

    COMPUABLE First Sergeant

    Psychic gets 1 1/2 years for 'bilking' 200G
    Phony psychic sentenced for bilking woman of savings

    Not a bad take here, actually… all things considered - she’s definately better off (financially anyway) by going to prison than if she hadn’t done the crime in the first place…

    Bearing in mind the fact that she got only 1 1/2 year sentence that comes to a grand total of $365.63 per day ($200,000 x 547 days) - and "I predict" <lol> that she’ll actually get time off for good behavior which will probably add approx 1/3 more to that amount which will come to a whopping $431.96 for every day in prison...

    Miss Cleo must be very jealous indeed! <g>

    Stories like this always crack me up to the max. Some idiot out there readily forks over all their dough to a psychic (or as they called it in the old days: "fortune teller") and then they bring the psychic to court for being successful at collecting money from the dopes who are stupid enough to hand it over.

    It is also quite oxymoronic to label her a "phony" psychic ~ as opposed to what, exactly - an authentic psychic?
     
  2. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    I see great things for you in the future Compuable.........:D

    That'll be $1000.00 ...cash or money order.
     
  3. COMPUABLE

    COMPUABLE First Sergeant

    >> I see great things for you in the future Compuable. That'll be $1000.00 cash or money order. <<

    Sounds like a "safe bet" to me, TimW... ;)

    Coincidentally I'm expecting a huge windfall in the very near future from Mr. Omar El-Dagash, a Manager at the Union Bank of Nigeria PLC, Lagos who evidently came to know of me in during his private search for a reliable and reputable person to handle a very confidential transaction which involves the transfer of a huge sum of money to a foreign account requiring maximum confidence!

    So I'll definitely get back to you, Tim (that is, when my ship finally comes in)!!! <lol>

    Good Luck!
     
  4. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member



    Too late ...he's already doing business with me because of my psychic abilities ....LOL
     
  5. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I cant stand psychic's or spiritual healers they really annoy me but the people who believe it and fork out their money annoy me too,on one hand they deserve to have their money taken but I also understand how desperate and gullible sick or grieving people can be,a fact that is played on by these con artists.

    I can't decide whether the sentence is just or not:confused
     
  6. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    You said it in the second half of your statement Rikky, preying on the vulnerable, now if only Stuart Libby didn't have a presidential pardon.rolleyes
     
  7. COMPUABLE

    COMPUABLE First Sergeant

    >> I cant stand psychic's or spiritual healers they really annoy me but the people who believe it and fork out their money annoy me too... Rikky <<

    To me it is silly that people can sue for this. It would be a different story if the psychics physically robbed them at gunpoint or got into their bank account with their ATM code and stole the money, or something like that.

    Otherwise it is just as ridiculous as a scratch ticket addict suing the lottery because they spent 1000s on the 10 and 20 dollar scratch tickets and lost on all of them; when they knew the odds were a long shot at best going in.


    COMPUABLE
     
  8. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    The Bush Administration has announced plans to have psychics wear a warning label.
     
  9. Sakari

    Sakari Private E-2

    I must reply to this.Who do you think you are tarring each healer and psychic with the same brush?I have been a healer for 15 years and in that time have only asked for petrol from people if i have had to travel far.I have given healing to people and animals alike,and have had so much response,that it has helped them or their animals.People dont have to have faith to be healed or belief.I have given healing to people who are very sceptical and they have changed their views.Let me ask you "Have you ever tried it" also if you had a pet or family member who was very ill would'nt you try everything possible to help them?Yes i agree their are some who cheat people out of money(but doesnt this happen every where?)maybe you should rethink what you write in future so you dont cause insult to honest people.
     
  10. bigbazza

    bigbazza R.I.P. 14/12/2011 - Good Onya Geek

  11. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek

    This so called psychic is termed a Charlatan (A charlatan is a person practising quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money or advantage via some form of pretence or deception.)
    They give healers and gifted individuals a bad name.
    You get that in every walk of life. :)
     
  12. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    That would be me:)Sorry I disagree with you,if what you do cant be recreated in scientific environment then it isn't real,giving people false hope in any situation is something I disagree with and seeing it happen to people who are vulnerable and grieving I dislike.

    I have no doubt your an honest person and so am I "well I like to think so:D" we just have different beliefs,
     
  13. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    what about the people it actually happens too?? There are people that I know (myself included) some of which were in the hospital and the doctors actually put on their charts "healed by prayer" or something similar. Your saying that since it cant be recreated scientifically, it couldnt possibly have happened? (even though the person knows it has?)

    Just curious about your point of view :)
     
  14. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    I'm not going to get involved in the is healing/isn't healing for real argument since it's a matter of belief and first hand experience and that is a losing battle on a board with mainly scientific minded people.

    I will, however, say I have major issues with someone being charged for taking money for a service that is considered legal. Whether you think it's a bunch of crap or not, people are in control of their own money and choose to give it to these people.

    That's like charging casinos for allowing gambling addicts in to bet.
     
  15. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    You know my point of view:D Do you I think people can can better without medical intervention,yes,it happens everyday and we don't have the knowledge or medical resources to investigate but its logical biology,we don't know how every system works yet and we may never.

    Do I think that god listened and thought whoever was a special case that needed his intervention in the laws of physics and biology,No.Do I think a person/doctor could have mistaken the relationship between the body healing itself and healer/prayers impact yes.
     
  16. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I don't know about in the US but it is illegal here, you can only do it as a form of entertainment just like a cinema ticket,if you claim anything more then its illegal.
     
  17. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    Ok, I understand and I have just one more question for you :p

    Do you think its possible for your body to heal a fractured rib in just 1 day?
     
  18. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    No but I think its possible for the x-rays to be mixed up,I know someone who had a fractured jaw until it went to court and all of sudden the doctor admitted his mistake;)
     
  19. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    It is legal here. If there are any restrictions, I have never heard of them. It's also very accessible and if someone chooses to put their money in it, the person they give it to should not be charged.

    As far as your laws for it being for entertainment only....so is gambling. Should casinos be charged for taking all that hard earned cash from people. People need to be held responsible for their own actions (or stupidity, as the case may be)
     
  20. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    I think we have much more control over our bodies than anyone thinks. Whatever belief you need (be it God , healer, etc) lends itself to mind over body.
     
  21. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    We are having new mega casinos built over here like in Las Vega and I feel the same about them,I dislike them because they will create gambling addicts and take too much money from many people,then again its not my money so why should I care?

    A conundrum.
     
  22. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek

    Exactly. Mind over matter and positive thinking do help. I experience the wonders of healing every week :)
    Alternative Health Therapists do not state that they can cure any ailment or problem you may have, but they can help where conventional techniques cannot.

    I was a sceptic too Rikky , but once I opened my mind, I started to become more aware of something that science cannot explain. I would have to charge you to let you know the secret though ;) LOL
     
  23. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Interesting topic to think about. The healing part, not the fraud. I mean, if you are willing to pay for something non tangible...

    My back is killing me! I would try a 'healer' if they were free!:D

    E
     
  24. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    Find a church that believes in healing/prayer - Our church does it.. and for free ;)

    @ rikky, I agree xrays can be mis-labeled but you surely know if your in pain or not and how do you explain the departure of pain? (taking no meds either :p) I know when I'm in pain and I know when its gone (go ahead ask me how I know come on, come on ask meee LOL)
     
  25. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I disagree with you actually:DI may not sound it but I'm very open minded,I hate it when scientists say "It will never work" you would think smart guys would know better before ridiculing each others theories and I totally agree there are things that cant be explained but if that is so why can people have answers to the the unexplainable?There is being open minded to possibility and swallowing every story someones wishes to tell "I'm not saying you do",the same with prayer healing it's not that a don't believe in God I'm open minded to the fact,I just haven't seen anything yet that convinces me he exists.

    But if I did believe in God I disagree with the philosophy that 'A' god would pick and choose who he is going to heal on the basis of who asks the best but that isn't just my theory many religious scholars I have heard speak believe the same,you can ask all you wan't but in the end doesn't God already know the the answer and what he is going to do before you ask?

    When you went to hospital so sat on a lost syringe with a long lasting form of morphine which relieved the pain then when the doctor came he realized he'd looked at the wrong x-ray it wasn't broken just bruised and he wanted the bed for someone else so he put "healed by prayer" and everyone was happy.

    I can come up with a hundred like this which may sound like I'm joking but in my opinion they are much more plausible than God fixed it:)
     
  26. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    I think you would know if you sat on a syringe of morphine roflmao no offense but that was hilarious and no I didnt sit on any syringes of morphine. The doctor DIDNT want to put that it was "healed by prayer" on my friends chart but the difference was noticeable, too quickly and noticeably to be anything bodily or medically cured (as he was in the room when it happened).
     
  27. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Ohh... you said church. Now while I do not believe in the current state of most organized religions, I do not have any ill will towards them or their members, but I don't believe in them. That might hurt the 'healing' part.

    I have X-Rays of fused vertebrey in my spine. How would one go about finding one of these churches, and what do they require for healing? And I ask only to ask, not trying to be disrespectful of anyone's beliefs. I fully support anyone's right to believe what they want, and practice what they want as long as they grant me the same right.

    E
     
  28. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    lol ok:)
     
  29. Sakari

    Sakari Private E-2

    Yes you have your belief,but i never give false hope to people.maybe reading a few books on energy and how it surrounds us all may help you to understand.Love and light sakari
     
  30. Sakari

    Sakari Private E-2

    Hi look in your local directory for spiritualist churches,they normall have healing days set each week,i done my training(and yes i had to study 2 years doing an exam and getting an a grade pass to do healing) at the church in norwich.love and light sakari
     
  31. Sakari

    Sakari Private E-2

    me again lolol yes churches are free as am i...omg that doesnt sound right ,i mean my healing lolol.
     
  32. Phantom

    Phantom Brigadier Britches

    The Original so-called 'Psychic', got jail-time for a fairly clear case of fraud. Especially, considering it was some bodies life savings, not just a few bucks, (which is still immoral, i.m.h.o.).

    Scientifically, they (Scientists/Psychologists), have ascertained that approximately 30% of 'Blind Studies' (i.e. people who have taken Placebos), do actually get healed by the power of belief alone. (I assume that in the studies conducted, that everyone in the medical study is told it is the for real medicine).

    That being said, I still believe personally, that there are many phenomena we don't, as yet know much about, in relation to Para-psychological matters.
     
  33. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek

    The mention of the term God confuses Healing here. There are spritual healers who follow prayer to God and use churches to pray/heal. There are also healers in many different alternative therapies with no reference to any God.

    There is an energy which surrounds every living thing and is free to anyone. All you need to do is find a healer who can channel this energy through themselves to the recipient in need. It is a skill knowing how and where to direct this energy. A 'God' is not required to do this; therefore I would suggest looking up a local Reiki Therapist who is also a member of the registered body of therapists . Then you will know that they are not a phony. :)
    These therapists are only charging a fee for their time, for the continuous effort they put into studying, practising, preparation etc and upkeep of their healing room, insurance etc. They are not charging for Reiki or Healing.

    When you are in pain, you will try anything to alleviate the suffering; physios,chiropractor,drugs (and dyamonds morphine syringes LOL ) so why not give Reiki a chance? :)
     
  34. legalsuit

    legalsuit Legal Eagle

    Grumbles, you've made valid points with much needed clarity in discerning "healer" types.

    Your point on "energy which surrounds every living thing" is a valid and scientifically proven one - proven with experiments done with amputees as well as plants!

    Those who have studied on "energies" may also have learned of "Chakras" - best described as energy centers which run down one's body, that look like different coloured "spinning wheels". (The seven main chakras are described as being aligned in an ascending column from the base of the spine to the top of the head. Alignment of the "chakras" being key to well being.)

    Reiki I see as a holistic therapy...and depending on the type of complaint, can be a positive form of alternative treatment. I've found Reiki, combined with Aromatherapy to be a wonderful experience.

    I personally believe in alternative, holistic therapy, and where possible have applied it.

    However, there are instances where such alternative therapy or "healers" cannot be applied...because if I could have found such a "healer" or alternative therapy, I never would have had major surgery on my back.:)
     
  35. Sakari

    Sakari Private E-2

    I strongly agree with what has been said about energy surrounding everything,i am a hands on healer ,channeling the energy.Yes also agree with chakras,which when unbalanced can cause dis ease in the body.
     
  36. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Walking with mind wide open .....someone pick up the cells that are leaking out, please.
     
  37. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    No because its primitive BS,when it is measured by as instrument and I can look a graph of the data I will,until then it isn't real and isn't something I would waste my time on.Love is real it can be measured chemically in the brain,light can be measured with an instrument,sakari has been all but abandoned by the civilized Western medicine,this isn't because it it can't be measured its because its been tried many times hasn't worked,thats the thing if it did work we would use it there would be a sakari clinic around the corner which I would go to,to be healed but there isn't because it has been tried many times under scientific circumstances and hasn't worked unlike current medicine.

    I don't usually put my point across this abruptly but it is primitive "theres that word again" thinking that keeps witch doctors in business in africa,I really can't stand this stuff.

    And around we go...
     
  38. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek

    Legalsuit - Thank you for the kind and supporting words regarding Reiki. I have recently qualified and now practise professionally as a Reiki Practicioner :)

    Rikky :p Next time I come over the border, I will come and demonstrate reiki to you, free of course (well maybe a few beers)! :D
     
  39. legalsuit

    legalsuit Legal Eagle

    Congratulations for completion of Reiki study. I have a friend who as a Reiki Practitioner, (he follows the Japanese traditional form of Reiki), introduced me to it...that's how I came to know of it in a practical sense when he applied it to me for stress reduction and relaxation.

    Though, as I stated earlier, there is a limit to alternative therapies (in particular if there are serious skeletal circumstances that require attention to avoid nerve or muscular damage). When that limitation is reached, then one should follow required procedures of conventional medicine for remedies (as I have recently done).:)
     
  40. Grumbles

    Grumbles Bamboozled Geek

    Thanks for the kind words LS :) Totally agree with you on above too. Reiki is not a cure and can never replace conventional treatment. It is used as a supplement to try and help patients on an emotional level first and hopefully help the body heal around the affected areas.

    :)
     
  41. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    lol do you think that would work out?You'd have to give me quite a few beers first :neener
     

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