Celibacy, not a trend but an ideal...

LOL I know you're married...I was simply having a go at you for your response to dyamond

 

roflmao

 

I reckon it's tougher discipline on teenagers and adolescents, than adults, so I reckon you've done well.

And for those who have had "the experience" and then chose to be chaste particularly as a "vow of celibacy" - those I've met who have achieved this, imho, I think are pretty special. I could only respect them for it.

 

LOL Toyota - "Oh what a Feeling!"...Ahem!...OK.

Back on topic...celebrities, I reckon, carry a lot of responsibility in how they can influence people, particularly the adulating young...so such "fads" become a shallow act with the wrong message when not carried through.

 

roflmao you tell him, girl!!

Whether anyone believes me or not, when you sleep with someone you become a part of them and they become a part of you, that’s how its meant to be (which is why its meant for after you get married, but no doubt people will disagree with me, which is their right even thought I am rightLOL) I mean, why else do you think its so hard to let go/forget about someone you’ve shared that with? There are a lot of people you will forget about but you will always remember those people no matter how hard you try to forget (I know, I’ve tried rolleyes) why do think that is? I know why but I digress.

I can understand it would pretty much stink to not be on the same “level”, so I guess my husband and I will have be on the same level, so it wont be so awkard LOL but if that’s the whole basis of your relationship well, it wont last very long anyway.

 

In other words, he's cheating on her.

 

Interesting topic. I for one think sex is over rated and a means to subdue boredom. Not saying it isn't great sometimes, however, I didn't wait until I was married. AAMOF, I didn't wait, many , many ,many times.:drool

But after being with my wonderful wife for 16 years, I wish I would have. Maybe that sounds a bit goofy but I do. The others were truly curiosity and teen hormones. My oldest boy is going on 16 and swears to wait until married. I truly hope he can. Girls in his school a few years back were pregnant at 13 and younger. And not to be hard on this generation but it seems common sense and responsibility is less than what it used to be in many areas.

What I don't see is how the males who impregnated these girls got all the blame as if they did a drive by :confused

To me, if my daughter, I would have made sure she knew she was ALSO to blame, not just one or the other, but that's my opinion.

Cheers,

Paul

 

I agree with you 100% on this :highfive I have never ever gone through anything as hard as when I broke up with my last girlfriend, and even though it's been 3 months im still not even close to being over her. *sigh* ok, im done being a little girl now lol

 

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jskong/orly.gif

 

I think they joined some kind of cult or something it was a while ago I dont care enough to look it up,usually that means the cult leader just take everyones wives

There was doco over here about an American guy living in America who runs a Christian cult,he claims he's gods prophet and god speaks through him they all can't wait for the end of the world and to be saved when the time comes all the husbands had to give up their wives to him while the husbands abstained,one guy who was in the cult was crying when talking about how he cant sleep with his wife and only the leader can,the cult leader is named David I think, he said to the husbands "Don't be angry at me be angry at god"

Here he is Michael http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/cult.html

 

Heh, nice one. Although I did say... "Not saying it isn't great sometimes" . I should elaborate further, I mean media wise and those who have nothing to do besides that. However, it's all opinion for sure.
Still like the pic though, lol.

 

Paul, I don't reckon you can throw a blanket over the whole generation when it comes to lack of common sense and responsibility...there are many wonderful youths out there who have both.

In my way of thinking, attitude much depends on the type of education/communication received and an understanding of what is morally right.

I remember a few years back, a couple of young missionary Mormons knocked at my door. I was so taken back by their sincere enthusiasm and joyful attitude, my curiosity had me invite them in which led to an interesting and excited exchange of ideas and beliefs. We became good friends during the remainder of their missionary year, and they regularly stopped by my house for home cooked meals (they lived poorly, so a home cooked meal was a luxury for them), and we had many interesting debates and discussions, many which included celibacy.

These two young men quite impressed me with their ideals and maintaining a celibate life. Both had a girl waiting back home whom they planned to marry upon completing their mission. We maintained communication when they returned home, and I've been delighted to see photos of their young brides and later of their children.

So, I certainly admire those who seriously take on a celibate life with an ultimate goal.

 

Well, count yourself lucky my dear - you are the minority! Every other person I talked to about this (and its been alot!) feel the same way I do.

@viper boy - Trust me, I know its hard!! like why does it have to be so hard dang it!! (yea, now I know the answer) LOL Took me almost a year to get over a guy once.. but you will get through it

@Paul - I wish I could have waited too, I dont think there is anything goofy about it. Thats why as of 6 years ago - I decided this time to do it right.

 

I wasn't putting a blanket over the whole generation but am basing a higher majority from what I have seen in schools and numerous places I lived. I didn't say there weren't good kids, I know there are but I am old enough to see the changes happening and how many more kids are becoming irresponsible, cocky, non caring, etc...

So even if you know two kids who impressed you with ideals, that doesn't change the fact there are a whole lot out there who are doing quite the opposite. That would be judging a whole generation from two correct? So are you pulling the blanket off the whole generation by your statement? No. Was I blanketing the whole generation? No. But by definition of many, "generation" is a correct term unless specific numbers and statistics which even then isn't completely correct.
I didn't say every kid in this generation, that would have been completely incorrect. I was simply summing up some issues as best as could be in a couple of sentences.

I do think over TV and internet and just in real life, sex is being over rated and I do think "many more" kids in this generation are getting worse and I don't see it getting better. I applaud those who strive and struggle to do what's right, unfortunately, their numbers are shrinking. Or perhaps there are just so many more kids these days, either way, pregnancy at early ages, etc.. is definitely a problem.

Thanks for bringing up your disagreement in a decent way,much appreciated.

Paul

 

I get your drift.

In fact, my work arena often has me see and deal with the worst side of life and its people, which includes youth...so I am always delighted to acknowledge there are many who are better than most.

Those two young Mormons were an example of the type of youth, whom I have had the pleasure of encountering that seriously view celibacy.

 

I am glad to hear you do such work and applaud you for it. I didn't mean to make it sound so dark but reading back, I did. We should acknowledge those who do good for sure and yes, there are many good.

Cheers,

Paul

 

Umm...according to that cult leader, the world will end with an apocalyptic event at midnight on 31 October 2007...Are Shania Twain, her husband and the rest of the cult going by the Chinese Calendar? That is, they're behind the rest of the Western world, because Chinese New Year's Day, the first day of the Chinese new year in Year 2008 is February 7.rolleyes Oh wait...<counting fingers, toes, fingers again...oh forget it!> they've run out of days anyway...LOL

There's such a thing called 'blind faith', but with such glaring evidence of non-events, it totally wipes out the leader's 'prophesies'. People such as these cult followers really should check out the facts before joining and committing themselves to a life of celibacy, or rather, celibacy only for the husbands, while the cult leader enjoys their wives.rolleyes

In this case, I've no respect (regardless of what anyone one says), for such obvious idiocy when such a failure of prophesy isn't questioned and members continue to follow such a looney.

 

The apocalypse? And I missed it? :banghead Oh well, I'll wait for the next one.. :cool You know, I would hate to be that cult leader... "Hi everyone, uh..due to unforeseen events, the world did not end, sorry you spent your life savings foolishly, are laughed at by the general public and no longer have careers and that I slept with your daughters, my bad! See you next Tuesday!"

**sigh** seems bigger issues than celibacy here. However, some cult leaders would make great poster children for life long celibacy.

 

I am sorry if you feel offended Rikky but i think you read a little more into my post than i had intended.

it was not a personal attack as i used the word WE when making the statement about respect also i did not say you stink i used the word INSTINKS which was a spelling mistake it should have read INSTINCT sorry:wave

 

Perhaps I should elaborate, (just a little) on my previous post. Reason(s) I've ‘gone without’ for so long:- Firstly (speaking for my own p.o.v.), I don't "make love", unless I'm actually "in love". Maybe that makes me old fashioned, or whatever, but I've saved a lot of troubles and heart-aches along the way, I'm sure. (And for the record, it's not because of lack of opportunity, either.

Secondly, to tell the truth, I'm still not completely over our estrangement to this day. Before anyone says "get over it", 27+ years and two children represents a very substantial part of both of our lives on many levels.

Doesn't mean I'm not going to ever remarry, or whatever - but it's definitely not something I'm going to rush into, just because I can, or feel a need.

Just my slant on the subject. Sex may indeed be one of life's great pleasures, but it is also a huge responsibility, with potential for much misery in consequences, i.m.h.o. ~ Enough said.

 

I'm inclined to agree with your comment. There is a responsibility that comes with sex, but few take this into consideration.

I guess it boils down to people's attitude/thoughts towards sex and towards those they interact with.

I've found it interesting conversing with celibates who have a partner, waiting for their wedding day, express their thoughts on sex. They appear to take a responsible approach by showing a respect and sensitivity towards their partner, because it obviously isn't always easy for them to maintain that state of chastity which they both seek.