Q about CCleaner-Slim

I downloaded and opened CCleaner to clean out my Registry. At the point where I clicked the Analyze button, the program began to do things to various places - all with the Windows/Temp files. Almost immediately, the program stopped, I was informed that it had to close because it was trying to access something that it wasn't supposed to. So I re-executed the program, and this time it went on and on and on -- just like that little bunny. It never finished! I Cancelled it once, and it gave a report about what it found. The size of the findings indicated to me that the sheer size of the findings satisfied the length of time it was taking. So I Analyzed again, it seemed to pick up where it stopped, but I couldn't really tell. Bad thing is, it crashed again for the same reason; but this time, the Accomplishments appeared as 0 (zero).

What caused the crash? Can I do anything to prevent this?
How long is this procedure expected to take? There's no meter to inform of any o/o accomplishment or what...

I'm gonna wait to hear from you before I try again!

Thanks.
B

 

What Operating System and Security Software is installed on PC? Usually takes less than a minute to run on mine, even with a lot of changes to clean out.

 

Thanks for responding...

OS = Win98SE; no security, no anti-virus, no firewall.

During the first successful run (which I interrupted 'cause I didn't think it was running), it had identified about 228M of Temp files to delete. I also had earmarked a bunch of cookies to save, more to delete.

However, upon resuming the analysis, that's when the second crash occured. After that, all the info from the first/partial analysis had disappeared. Another analysis got into another freeze.

While waiting for a response, I tried to use Disc Cleaner (in Win System Tools), but it got frozen twice, causing cold boots each time. I won't try that again, until I can get the Registry looked over successfully!

What're your suggestions for avoiding the freeze?
Thanks.

 

If it is the first time running and there is a lot of things to clean, it will run for awhile but I have never seen it run more than 2-3 minutes.
As far as the crash and trying to clean forbidden things, that doesn't sound right.
Have you looked in the Event Viewer for a reason for the crash?

 

Thanks for the fast response...

I looked at the Event Viewer, but the results were gibberish to me. Maybe I should try a screen shot for you?

The initial scan was taking longer than 2-3 minutes, and it reflected each file as it was checked. I didn't recognize any of them in particular... not that it made any difference.

Should I just try it again and see what happens?

:confused

 

Yes , run it again, Cleaner first, then the Registry. Make a note of the time and if it crashes post the sreenshot of Event Viewer with that entry.

 

Agree with Steve, no security software installed is asking for trouble. :cry

CCleaner usually only takes a short time to run. It all depends on how frequently you run it. First time run will take longer, of course.

Many of us have been using it for years without problems. Bazza

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Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim UPDATE and responses, p.1

It's been a long day...

First, about security: I have antivirus and spam security through my ISP.
I dumped the conventional commercial antivirus programs because they did more to screw up my system than they did to protect it - tripley so for a firewall. Besides, I don't stay online all the time due to dialup.

Freezes: When they happened, they were intermittant - i.e., there was no rhyme nor reason to when and under what circumstances they occured. It could be on bootup or after a couple hours of reading the posts in MG. I do not think it's inherently Win98 since it's only been happening for about a week, since I loaded on the FreeRam.

Next - this long day:
I booted into Safe Mode, ran CCleaner. It proceeded well for a long time, then hit some snag. There were two instances of "Unexpected Errors", with a window full of weird letters and such, but they were reporting "Attempt to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have approved access." Huh?? One instance was for the Windows Temp Internet Files and the other for Cookies. But it kept running. Then, Wham! It his a "Critical Error" and had to close - something with Application:Run, and a further msg of "C++ Runtime Library - Runtime Error! R6025 - pure virtual function call".
Then I had to close it. But the whole system didn't shut off. Note that up to the point of closure, I saw data about how much it had identified and how much time had elapsed, etc. Upon the Critical Error report, that info disappeared.

I did it again. Analyze took a very, very long time, but eventually it finished - but I didn't realize it, 'cause there was NO REPORT of what it found - just a blank window! Thinking it was an error, I analyzed again -- long wait -- same result. This time I was watching, and just proceeded into Cleaning mode.

Another long time. But eventually it finished. (I'm talking about maybe 90 mins or so for the three, maybe more).

Next, knowing that something significant had occured, and believing in DeFrag (and still in Safe Mode, where I do my DeFrags), I executed DeFrag. OOooww... a couple hours later (I took a nap therein), it finished, having cleaned up a HUGE amount of space.

Now I'm back in regular mode, haven't done much but check email and get back to Here.

More...:hyper

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim p.2

I forgot to mention that when I finally got CCleaner to run through, I modified the initialsettings to avoid places where I was pretty sure there wouldn't be much chance for a problem, concentrating on where I knew there would be some serious challenge. Maybe this is why I didn't those interim reports, between analyzing and cleaning.

But there still are questions:
CCleaner - how can I make sure on the Registry is cleaned? There are a lot of boxes already checked, and I'm not sure on some of them, if I can safely uncheck them.

I still need to know how to ensure that FreeRam is no longer there. Since it didn't disappear via Add/Remove utility, could it still have some garbage left behind which will jam something up?

Thanks.

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim UPDATE and responses, p.1

If you mean FreeRAM XP Pro 1.52 from http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=1670 , I've used it on every PC I've been associated with since first loading in on my old W98SE laptop. I've never had any trouble with it. Even use it on my XP Pro SP2 laptop, even though a memory manager is "not required" (according to the "experts") for XP. Bazza

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Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim - checking Registry

Does this mean that in the first window of CCleaner to show, I should uncheck all the options except for the Windows Registry? Just checking to make sure...

And then should I be getting some report to indicate what is suggested to be cleaned?

Recall, when I finally got the CCleaner to work, I left checked many items from the first box. And when it finally proceeded to completion, I never got any report about what it found -- the "report box" was empty. But it sure cleaned up something!

I think my confusion stems from the fact that CCleaner will clean up so much more than just the Registry.

Thanks.

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim UPDATE and responses, p.1

That's the one! After I used it for awhile, I noticed that it would clean out the RAM back to the point where bootup would load stuff. It would clean out regardless of any program running which needed some from the RAM.

That's when I first got some trouble running a problem. I may have used it improperly; but I relied on it telling me if I was not using correctly.

Then, when I tried to Uninstall it via Add/Remove, I couldn't -- it wasn't logged there! I tried using the Exit part of the icon in the tray, and even didn't Exit properly the first time. I ended up deleting the folder from the initial installment.

So how do I check to ensure that all elements of FreeRam have been removed? Is there some "usual" place in the Registry? It's not loading since I deleted everything...

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim UPDATE and responses, p.1

I've never had such problems with FreeRamXP Pro. :confused

I don't know what you mean by the above. How much installed RAM in your W98SE PC?

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It isn't in my Add/Remove list either. Not all programs appear in Add/Delete.

Make sure you backup your Registry before you start.

Go to Start-->Run Type in regedit and then <enter>
Click on Edit then Find tab.

In Find What box, type in FreeRam and delete anything it finds. Press function key F3 to find any further entries and delete them also, until nothing else appears

Repeat all the steps above to make sure you have caught (and deleted) everything.

Bazza

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim reg cleaning... FreeRamPro

Thanks for the recipe. I'm gonna try it!

There's a lot of stuff I've never had, too, including this group of symptoms! It might be coincidental, maybe not. Problem, no one know fer sure! I never thought I'd be the first in the world with anything, but maybe now's the time...

RAM is 256.
When FreeRamPro was loaded, it would report 146 after everything was loaded. It would always clear back to that point. If I was working with something and encountered a slowdown, I would look at the RAM monitor in the tray; if it was pretty low (68?), I would run the "free now" feature, get things back up to 146. It wasn't til later than I started to see the freezes.

What's the difference between FreeRamPro and BySoft_FreeRam ?

[I now think that Spider Solitaire (which was the original reason I wanted to manage the RAM) just isn't designed to work in Win98 but does, up to a point. Lots of things aren't particularly designed to work in Win98 but do; when they appear in utility lists such as are on MG, they usually have a notation about being usable on Win All. Maybe this is similar...]

I'm off to try your Registry recipe.

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim reg cleaning... FreeRamPro

Hope it works for you.
256 megs should be enough.
It appears as though FreeRamXP Pro was working OK as it cleared RAM from <>68 up to 146.

Something else may have caused the freezes?

Did you un-install FreeRam XP Pro, run CCleaner (or similar) and re-install it?
Same symptoms?

I've never used BySoft_FreeRam so can't comment.
Never had the need to try other than FreeRamXP Pro. Bazza

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Just checked out Wikipedia link,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_(solitaire)

It does not mention as suitable for W98SE !! :confused

Too many versions of Solitaire to be sure, though. Bazza

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim & FreeRamPro

The recipe worked!
FreeRamPro was reflected in two URL entries, both to MG. No problem there, since it was only URLs.

But there were two other entries, one under YourSoft (commercial entity), and another somewhere (I didn't note the key!) under a folder Run.

I deleted both these last two references.
But note the one under Run: I'm thinking that had something to do with that CCleaner crash which referenced Application:Run.

I didn't try to do any fancy combinations with Uninstalling FreeRamPro, then running CCleaner, etc.

I'm just at that point now! I'm hesitant to re-Install FreeRamPro yet. I need to see if those freezes pop up any more.

Yes, it could be something other than FreeRamPro, since I was playing with other stuff at the same time. I might have just plain confused the 'puter all 'round, and now am getting it worked out. But since I'm relegated to the fact that Spider won't work any better with more memory, I don't need to mess with a memory cleaner - I think.

I'm still working with the problem of the Open With... bad icon! Maybe the Edit recipe for the Registry will show something else? Hmmm. It's been about 2 hrs since I've had a problem; maybe I should try that... No, just shoot me!

Thanks.

 

Re: Q about CCleaner-Slim - Why??

I'm now wondering why CCleaner didn't find those two Registry entries reflecting that FreeRam Pro wasn't installed anymore?

I used a text editor to search through the registry backup and found where the two entries were listed (outside of the URLs).

Now I'm really wondering if I shouldn't use some plain, focused "registry cleaner", but don't know which one. It's important for me that it be Freeware.

Suggestions?

 

I was going to recommend Advanced WindowsCare v2 Personal 2.6.0.835
from http://www.majorgeeks.com/Advanced_WindowsCare_v2_Personal_d4991.html

But it is only for

, not W98SE

Bummer.:cry

W98SE will run a lot better with FreeRamXP Pro, than without it, IMO. So I'd recommend trying un-install, CCleaner, re-install, etc.

Bazza