HPV vaccine for teens

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by darlene1029, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    Halluah, a doctor not driven by pharmaceutical companies, straight talk about the HPV vaccine doing more harm then good, osteoporosis a lack of D (sunshine).

    In my opinion when certain illnesses are eradicated the drug companies have to come up with new things to pedal their wares.
    Many people are choosing not to vaccinate their children, especially with one thats been linked to autism, which is on the rise. One out of six children will be diagnosed with it. Yet people keep on vaccinating their children with these poisons no questions asked, no research. The doctors won't tell you the truth, many don't know as most practice via drug companies.

    I saw this woman on Oprah, has some good advise.
    http://www2.oprah.com/health/yourbody/slide/20080117/slide_yourbody_northrup_103.jhtml
     
  2. ItsWendy

    ItsWendy MajorGeek

    OK, but what about Polio, or measles? Where do you draw the line?

    With deseases like Polio vacinations should be manditory, IMO.
     
  3. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    I don't think there has been a case of polio in the US for a very long time and as for the measles that is part of the one in three drugs they believe to be causing the outrages numbers of autism. Most kids survive measles just fine.
    Most medical persons know which one has the worse record and do not give that to their own children. Lot of them do not give live virus ones.
    This is like the tobacco companies telling us all is ok.
    When my kids were small they never gave any info as to affects. Now it's a law but people have to ask for it.
    When my son was born they also told me it was a law that he had to be circumcised. I was young, I didn't know any better. besides then everyone thought doctors did no harm. We all knowbetter then that now. I hope!
     
  4. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

  5. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    PS, one of my daughters told a doctor he could vaccinate her son on the condition he wrote down there would be no danger or adverse reaction.
    He refused
     
  6. Corporal Punishment

    Corporal Punishment Head of Software Shenanigans Staff Member

    That is incorrect. The number is 6.6 per 1000 or about 1 in 150.

    Also, here is the info at the CDC.
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/mmr_autism_factsheet.htm

    I chose to give it to Beta recently. My doctor, who is a pretty holistic guy and has three young ones, had all three of his kids vaccinated as well.

    This - I just found in a refresher - brought up some things I did not know. It's a good read for the other side of the coin for you.
    http://www.chrisdellavedova.com/2008/07/01/science-tuesday-the-mmr-truth-lies-and-the-media/
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2008
  7. Lev

    Lev MajorGeek

    Additionally, many factors can cause and accentuate autism, including diet and genetic hereditary. You would have to eliminate all other possible causes of autism AND have the shots AND do a blind study for many many years to prove this. I don't know of such a study.......that also draws the conclusions you mention.
     
  8. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    Unfortunately the ones who do the studies are the same that produce the vaccine
     
  9. ItsWendy

    ItsWendy MajorGeek

    Polio is not gone, not like smallpox. It is still out in the wild, and if enough kids don't get the vaccinations for it, it will be back with a vengence in the USA. Complacency with deseases like Polio is never good, people do not recover, they come out of it crippled or dead.
     
  10. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Yup Bill, with all the travel that people do these days they can easily become a carrier and then it's only a matter of a chance encounter to pass it on and ruin someone's life.
     
  11. oma

    oma MajorGeek

    You're right on this one.
     
  12. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    True, there has not been a case since 1979, and yes for people who travel are at risk but to start injecting young women with an unknown vaccine with the possibility that it might reduce one of the many viruses that could cause cervical cancer I believe, is a stretch.

    As for the MMR, it wasn't available when my children were small nor some of my grandchildren
    People used to die of pneumonia too
     
  13. oma

    oma MajorGeek

  14. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

  15. oma

    oma MajorGeek

    @Darlene, I knew it too, the info is all over the web and forums.
     
  16. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    and yet mothers are lining up to inject their daughters with poison. It just may end up a lot of young women will not be able to bare children, humm just hit me as I was typing that. Wonder if that is an all over plan.
    I wouldn't put anything past them or the gov. scary!
     
  17. oma

    oma MajorGeek

    Just a little example what injections can/may do... although this happened in the early fifties.

    The then Queen Juliana of the Netherlands got rubella when she was expecting her 4th child. Her child was born almost blind. Therefore when the rubella vaccine became available all girls had to be vaccinated. That was done in the schools. We had to line up.

    Strange that within a year or so a lot of girls had to start wearing glasses due to vision loss. All my sisters as well and most girls in the neigbourhood.

    My mom always said that it was the vaccination that caused it because is was too much of a co-incidence...., she had talked about it with the neighbors and they concurred. Perhaps a bad "batch"?
     
  18. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    oma, if that isn't a smoking gun, pity for the girls.
    Contacting anything while your pregnant is dangerous to the child. I have heard before the results measles during that time. In fact knew a family, the child was born with every possible deformity you could think of. Still gives no credence for healthy children.
     
  19. oma

    oma MajorGeek

  20. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012


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