what are some good 9/11 films?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Rack The mouse, Oct 10, 2006.

  1. Rack The mouse

    Rack The mouse Private E-2

    Anyone know of any good 9/11 films that show what really happened?

    Thanks,
     
  2. Bladesofhalo

    Bladesofhalo MajorGeek

    Why do you need a film? The events that happened on 9/11 really happened? What are you, a conspiracy theorist? Lol
     
  3. BCGray

    BCGray Guest

    I would assume that you were alive and could see and had access to a T.V. when 9/11 occurred, too many good people died because of some demented idealist's. Why some people need to see this death and destruction again & again & again & again adnaseum is beyond me, but what ever floats your boat Rack The mouse, just not from this dude
     
  4. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Assuming you're wanting something along conspiracy lines, there are none. There's lots out there, but all of them bend, ignore, edit, and tweak the "facts" to suit their paranoia.

    Popular Mechanics did a bang-up job investigating and debunking most all the popular paranoid theories about it. Read here:
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
     
  5. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    Search the interent for the 911 documentary Loose Change. It's pretty good.

    One good thing about that documentary is that it brings up a good point as to the towers falling down. They fell down as if imploding by demolition explosives. The towers should not have fallen down and if they did - which they never would have if it was just a fire in the building - they would have fallen to one side, not straight down.
     
  6. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Um, not really.
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4

    PBS Frontline did a really great documentary, VERY well researched, on the towers, their structure and engineering, and what came apart, and how, about a year after the attack IIRC. Unfortunately it was a video documentary and is not available on the net.
     
  7. captjacksparrow

    captjacksparrow Private E-2

    I know of an excellant documentary by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. It is titled "9/11" and is narrated by Robert DeNiro. The brothers were filming a documentary of a rookie firefighter and they filmed the first plane hitting the tower, and inside the tower. It's as accurate and factual an account you will ever see or read about. It is extremely emotional documentary and is not censored.
     
  8. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    The pancaking effect theory was done in a computer simulation without the steel frames running down the middle of the towers. The steel frames were left out of the computer simulation to make the pancaking theory plausable. If the towers did pancake somehow the steel frames would still be there sticking out into the air. The planes hit the towers above the halfway point of the buildings. The steel at the middle on downward would still have full strength and not crumble straight down.

    I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I don't fully believe what the government has told us about 911 either.

    It's just fun to debate things.
     
  9. Bladesofhalo

    Bladesofhalo MajorGeek

    Funny how the Pentagon footage from nearby buildings was confiscated by the FBI and never showned clearly to the public, now that is what fuels conspiracy theorists.
     
  10. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Watch the slide shows from PBS Nova concerning it. In particular, the slide shows "Impact To Collapse", and "9/11 Consipiracy Theories". "Impact To Collapse" is made up of sequential MULTIPLE slide shows. Wait for each succeeding one to load.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
     
  11. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    The main supports in WTC were NOT solid steel, they were hollow box sections, about 1/4" thick at the top, and 3/4 to 1.5" thick at the bottom. Strong enough in normal load-bearing duty, but not nearly strong enough to stand up to the mass that came down on them. No, they wouldn't have survived, and no, they weren't left out of the studies to make them viable.

    I've watched both documentaries, and local news stories covering implosion of large buildings. Fascinating. It's an art to make one come down clean. Hugely complex, wires running everywhere, and charges all over the place. Nobody has yet explained just how they could have wired and charged those huge and busy buildings in secret with nobody noticing. Would have taken many tons of explosives, miles of wiring, and a LOT of time and work. Bah.
     
  12. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I think Fahrenheit 9\11 is good ,more about political issues than the day in question,I also liked loosechange,total BS but entertaining after a few beers,screw loose change is just as good considering they are free :)

    What happened on that day:confused: Terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into buildings,people died,I'd be fun if there were a great conspiracy behind it but the simple fact is people cant keep secrets,the amount of people needed to set something up like that would be insane keeping them all quiet impossible,dya think you could round up enough people to plan and exectute mass murder and them keep thier mouths shut after knowing they've just killed thousands of people,:confused: the guilt alone would crack most people and then add on the need for many people to become famous it just isnt plausable in the least :)
     
  13. ranjikvp

    ranjikvp Private E-2

    Waiting for Nicolas Cage's World Trade Center
     
  14. rogvalcox

    rogvalcox MajorGeek

    I'm waiting for hollywood to quit trying to make money off of every tragic event they can get their hands on!!!! Especially when there are innocent casualties involved!! Let it lie for awhile and then maybe our children's, children can watch it!!

    Roger
     
  15. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Amen I saw it all on live TV and have watched every documentary showing the heroism ect.

    The only twist hollywood can bring is to add corney melodrama,and casting nicholas cage:eek: IMO one of the most overrated actors in hollywood,he just oozes corn:rolleyes: ,in gone in sixty seconds I literally have to look away from the screen hes so bad

    I remember at the time saying to my dad they'll never make a film about it its too real,not for a few decades anyway "you'll see in a year or two a film will be made"

    I should listen my old man more :)
     
  16. Solange

    Solange Sergeant Major

    Don't worry, I'm sure if they try hard enough, they'll manage to throw in a love story รก la Titanic... :rolleyes:
     
  17. Rack The mouse

    Rack The mouse Private E-2

    Thanks for all the info. I will try to reply to all posts made that I have questions about. I hope you pardon the spam. Ok here is were I stand, I did not vote for Kerry Or Bush and I am not a fulltime Bush basher. I wish he was not our are president at times, And I do know he likes to lie from time to time.maybe he has no choice. But if kerry was in office I would still want to know the truth.

    I look at it this way. If I ask my kid how long he took my car out on a Saturday night and he says he only used it for one hour and yet I find tickets in the back seat to a Pink Floyd concert, and two sleeping bags? I may want to ask him again if maybe there is something he is not telling me.

    And If my son tells me "What sleeping bags?" then I have no choice but to think he is not telling the truth and is covering up stuff. Am I as a parent to just say ok and go about my day? Or do I have a right to get to the truth, and what really took place?

    If my son says he could not have been at the Pink Floyd show he was putting gas in my car at the time and I go to the Gas station were they have a camera that has a VHS tape of my son putting gas in my car and the CIA comes over and takes that film from them so I am not able to see it, would I not have more questions than answers?


    Am I wrong to ask questions ? Why must I be labeled a conspiracy nut, or Anti American? I am not sure if I can post a link in this topic, I am new here and I do see you have a forum just for that. But I went to a website called the Power Hour and they did have some good info, I will be back later to tell you what 9/11 movies I was able to get since I started this topic. had no idea the large amount of people that want answers also. :D
     
  18. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I'v watched some of the power hour productions,they pretty much bring up the points that all the other videos do which have now been disproven,they dwell on the pod theory which has know been confirmed as the undercarriage bulge,even many conspiracy sites stay away from the pod theory

    I wouldnt judge or label you for your opinion,one thing I would say though when looking at these 'evidence of a conspiracy' is to not have an open mind,the reason conspiracy's work is because we want them to,its hard for us to accept in our dull drab live that life is just that dull and drab,if you hink whats more exciting for us as viewers or consumers of this information,that theres a massive conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands of people that goes all the way to the top or terrorists hijacked some planes and crashed them,we already know the latter so it would be pretty hard to sell and make some cash which is what these websites are there for:)

    Where I am is terrorists crashed some planes and the Gov spun it to persaude people we need to invade countries,the real reason being oil,thats what the first gulf war was about and thats what this one is about
     
  19. ColonelAngus

    ColonelAngus Beefy

    @ GT - Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I've been busy working all week and was too tired to go on the computer and post a response. I clicked on the link you posted and the slide shows were very well done. I still feel that it's a little suspicious that all three towers fell down the way they did, especially the small tower that fell down hours after the twin towers did. I don't beleive the conspiracy theories without question, I just don't beleive everything the government tells us. Conspiracy theories are fun to listen to. They are very entertaining.

    I watched a video with a man named Barry Zwucker - I think that's what his name was - and it talked about oddities that happend that day. It's been awhile but I think the video was called something like, 911 The News Reports You Didn't See. It had some good stuff in it.
     
  20. MrPewty

    MrPewty MajorGeek

    One coincidence I find really weird. When the planes flew into the towers, apparently they found Atta's passport on the ground afterwards. I read that. It may or may not be true.

    Earlier this week, after Cory Lidle's plane crashed into a building in New York, his passport was found on the ground. I read that. It may or may not be true.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2006
  21. Rack The mouse

    Rack The mouse Private E-2


    I just want to see something besides sex and bad comedies that seem to be on tv and at the movies these days.
     
  22. LI_Geek_95

    LI_Geek_95 Post-and-Run Geek

    I heard about that
     
  23. mcadam

    mcadam Major Amnesia

    Why revive a two year old thread?
     
  24. wildwolf220

    wildwolf220 Oracle of Doom

    it's the Dawg mc, say no more ;)
     
  25. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    haha..actually ww, look at the post right above zdawg's. This redefines the definition of follow up. ;)
     
  26. LI_Geek_95

    LI_Geek_95 Post-and-Run Geek

    lol it was rack the mouse not me. i didn't look at the dates.
     
  27. bigbazza

    bigbazza R.I.P. 14/12/2011 - Good Onya Geek

    The thread number is a good indicator of old posts.
    MG is now in the 167,000's.
    This one is http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104514

    :-D Bazza

    ===

     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2008
  28. wildwolf220

    wildwolf220 Oracle of Doom

    roflmao laura.
     
  29. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    haha its been two years found anything yet:-D BTW watch World Trade Centre with Nick Cage its good but be warned it centres around the story of two men that survived the collapse:-D

    In two years tell me what you think :-D
     
  30. mcadam

    mcadam Major Amnesia

    Argh....
     
  31. ItsWendy

    ItsWendy MajorGeek

    Truth, I think if anyone should be able to revive an old thread it should be the original poster...

    Speaking for myself, I think 911 was a atrocity and a tragidy made worse by our governments. We stand in danger of loosing the Afgan war because of misplaced priorities.
     
  32. asplode

    asplode Private E-2

    Sure they can. Maybe not everyone, but I've got some secrets I'm keeping as I type this.
     
  33. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Lets keep things in context:-DMy point is as you say "Maybe not everyone." Which is what the major conspiracy theories would need for them to be successful.

    One thing that I notice especially with the 9/11 theories,as each point was debunked and the theories become more wild more and more people need to be in on the secret,first just a few high level people know then every government employee,fire fighter,policeman and even witnesses and victims are all "In on it."

    They have even stretched for example to blaming the largest demolition company in America for using a controlled explosion and people have victimised their family without a single scrap of evidence against them,its nuts.
     
  34. asplode

    asplode Private E-2

    Yeah, I don't think that it could get by that many people very easily... but consider the case of Unit 731. Lots of people were in the know about that, but it was pretty much never mentioned, and even today most people have never even heard of it. Historians agree that it did happen, and almost everything written about them is, by and large, true.

    Does that mean the government blew up the WTC? Highly doubtful. Are they telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Again, highly doubtful, as the government seems to take offense to the idea. I'm not saying they willfully destroyed those buildings, but there's always more that lies beneath. Maybe they knew about it and let it happen, because we, the American people, seem to relish war, and they know this. It keeps our gigantic, runaway, bloated military budget unchecked, and gives us something to unite under and hate. We seem to like that sort of thing, that's all. I don't think we've gone a decade since WWII without some sort of high profile international conflict. That's saying a lot about us.
     
  35. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek


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