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mikessmith · Dec 1, 2008

Hey whats up!!!..

before i type this topic here..
i wana let you know....
my fourm skills arent the best and my typing can be a lil long..
i need to learn how to try and make things shorter rolleyes

ok here goes...

yeah when i see things in your Home Page...
like the programs..the hot things of the day..or what ever you guys refer to them as...
and they have the information for them..
like this...

Malware Removal Tool December 2008 [ 289 KB | Freeware | Win All]
A removal tool for WinTools & specialGoods.info / NewGenLook.info.

ALOAHA PDF Suite 3.5.11 [ 15.4 MB | Shareware $39.95 | Win All]
Create vector based, high resolution PDF Documents.

how it says the operating systems they are supported by..
and when they say Win All....

does that mean Win 98 also??..

why im asking is because some say this insted of ALL..
some things say it like...[Win XP/2K/2003]
like that..for the suported systems

i know Win 98 is dying a slow death..lol...
but some people still use it..
for how much longer god only knows..

yeah does that Win All..
supposed to included Win 98..

OMG i forgot Win 95..lol...
can win 95 still connect to the internet???..
OMG im laughing now..lol..
who ever reads this is gona think im a idiot now..lol..

FORGET ABOUT WIN 95 !!!
i should have never said that..

anyways...

im more so saying this for relating to Win 98...

and depending on your responce...yes or no to Win 98..
then i'll post another thing about this topic..

Sgt. Tibbs · Dec 2, 2008

You could always click on the link to see if Win98 is included. Sometimes it might be, but since it's been darn near ten years since MS stopped supporting it, I can't imagine why.

AbbySue · Dec 2, 2008

Hey Beth! Nice to see you.:cool

@ mikessmith...good question. Win All can be a confusing term for many. The easiest answer can be found via the FAQ on our main site MajorGeeks.com but quoted below for your convenience.

Win All is our notation for ALL versions of Windows. If a product only runs on say Windows 98 we list it as "Win98" or if it works on NT or XP, "Win NT/WinXP". If it runs on any version we list Win All since it would be pretty hard to fit Win 95/98/98se/ME/NT/2000/2003/XP on one line.

As a rule 95 and 98 or 9x, are considered the same. Meaning if it runs on one it will run on both. However this is not 100% true. Since Microsoft has phased out support for 95 and currently 98 most authors do not notate the difference, hence we may not know if a product will not run on 95. That said, what they heck are you still running 95 for?

Please note that Win 3.xx is not listed or supported by any product here. We do have some “DOS” apps , but that;s about it.
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You may find these links from our main site helpful also. FAQ & Geektionary Note: These links are found on the right hand side of the homepage for future reference.:major

Does this answer your question?

mikessmith · Dec 2, 2008

Hey Abby
Hey Tibbs...

rrrr..i typed alot and then hit preview..
and i guess i took to much time typing..
and had to sign in and my typing was gone...
not gona type it again..

i typed alot about saying why and how..lol..

lol..WIN 95..lol..

no im using Win98..
its funny cause i have 2 XP computers i never use..
i havent used them for years..
i should up date them here soon before its to late to do that..
(i like my old shoes too their comfy..lol..)

just gona say that when you say WinALL for this thing you're always posting...

Ad-aware SE referencefile SE1R315 01.12.2008 [ 6.00 MB | Freeware | Win All]
Manually update your copy of Ad-aware to recognize the latest spyware.

its not Win All...it does not work for Win 98 anymore..
unless im doing it wrong...(you got a 98 system Abby?..Tibbs?)
but i been trying for a while..lol..here the link to some pics i posted if you wana see some pics...

http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1234194#post1234194

plus i found a few more software things too that said WinAll that wasent working for win 98 also...i forgot what they were..i'll point them out in the future..

would it be hard to change that Adaware thing to the systems it suppots when you post the new up dates for the Defs?..

anyways...
just trying to help..since you guys helped me a few times...
thanks for all the cool stuff you guys do helping people fix things
and making them a lil smarter..

AbbySue · Dec 3, 2008

Hey Mike.

First of all, when you log in tic the "remember me" box and the system won't log you out during periods of inactivity. That way you won't lose a post you've been working on.

As Halo suggested in your thread in the software forum, I would just switch over to SpyBot Search & Destroy. It is, IMO a much better app in that it's more thorough than AdAware.

I'm going to check in with the site owners to see if we should look at the possibility of A.) Modifying our explanation of Win All or B.) Start updating how they are listed.

For the time being, at least until I know for sure what direction we are going with this, please do reply in this thread if you have other apps. that say Win All that will not install or run on Win98.

I hope this helps & thanks!

Major Attitude · Dec 3, 2008

There is no way to test all operating systems.
We usually repeat what the manufacturer says.
Most operating systems before Windows 2000 are not supported anymore and should not be run.
Win all simply means it should run on all Windows versions.

oma · Dec 3, 2008

AbbySue said: ↑

Hey Mike.

First of all, when you log in tic the "remember me" box and the system won't log you out during periods of inactivity. That way you won't lose a post you've been working on.
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Mike, if you don't want to tick the "remember me" box and spend a lot of time composing a message, just right click, select all, Ctrl+C (copies it to the clipboard), sign in again and then open reply and CTRL+V (paste). Your reply will appear exactly the way you posted before. Guess you already knew this though.

mikessmith · Dec 3, 2008

WOW !!..lol..

i got lots of people replying to my thing here...

THANKS all you Major geeks..

ABBY...check the Tic.got ya!!
spybot..willl do...
yeah the only reason why i even said all this about the WIN ALL thing
was cause i notice some of the other things say like
(2000/XP/Vista)
and some even just say (Win98)
can you see why i pointed this out..
and if i find more then i'll let ya know..
anyways...
thanks for your hard work you do here for everyone Abby..

Major Attitude...

yeah repeating what the manufactor says..
i guess it depends who makes it...like you say..
for some people win all means...ALL..lol..
and for some people it means only OS still supported by Microsoft..
so in 2 years will WIN ALL mean only Vista?
10 years and out right?
its funny cause most people dont need a Super computer
that runs on a OS that needs a
5 million Tara-bit Octa- processor
with 5 google-plex's of memory
and 80-infinities of hard drive space

just to type in a fourm and chat and surf the net..

got ya Major...
it just depends..better to check for your self..
and not take anything for granite..

thanks buddy for all the work you do making this KICK'n cool web site..
thanks for all you do Major that helps so many people...
your pretty cool dude in my book !!!

OMA...
selet all copy....and save...GOT YA!!..
i'll just open up Word Pad and keep it open from now on when i use a fourm..
THANKS FOR THE TIP !!!..

THANKS ALL YOU Major geeks for the pointers and help..
you guys are cool!!!..
THANKS

Sgt. Tibbs · Dec 4, 2008

Hey, AS! Nice to see you, too! I'm often here, just lurking a lot.

mikessmith said: ↑

its funny cause most people dont need a Super computer
that runs on a OS that needs a
5 million Tara-bit Octa- processor
with 5 google-plex's of memory
and 80-infinities of hard drive space

just to type in a fourm and chat and surf the net..
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Most people, particularly those frequenting tech forums, do much more than type in a forum and chat and surf the net on their computers.

I was running Win98 on my last laptop, but it was stolen so now I've got one with WinXP. My desktop runs Win2K. I've been smart enough for years to know that a program that comes out more than ten years after the OS I'm using was created probably won't run on it.

DavidGP · Dec 4, 2008

Hi Mike

Just picking up on a few things from your post to try and answer.

yeah the only reason why i even said all this about the WIN ALL thing
was cause i notice some of the other things say like
(2000/XP/Vista)
and some even just say (Win98)
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As the move from the 9x versions of Windows started for the masses in XP, back in 2001, many of the 9x versions of applications worked OK in both 9x and XP (some in XP only after updates to account for the new OS), this worked well for a few years.. hence many application developers said their apps where "Win All", as we are now 7yrs on and last major OS release for Windows was Vista, which in itself brought along new challenges for software developers.

Due to the age and unsupported 9x versions of Windows and a push into new technologies and 64bit, many developers of applications like Ad-Aware which you mentioned are now aiming their development of applications for the likes of XP/Vista and next year windows 7, so sadly they will not be actively developing for 9x, over time more and more applications that work with the likes of Windows 98 now will in newer versions cease to work.

its funny cause most people dont need a Super computer
that runs on a OS that needs a
5 million Tara-bit Octa- processor
with 5 google-plex's of memory
and 80-infinities of hard drive space
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Overall power of todays PCs is not really 100% of the issue of some applications not supporting the older Windows versions, its more to do with the Operating System itself in that the core kernel of the OS has changed as well as many security components, this was evident to many really reciently, hightened more so by the very fact that computers and the internet is more readily available than it was to more people than it was back in 2000/2001 when the jump from Windows 98SE/ME to XP had its own compatability issues, now with the jump from XP to Vista the compatability issues where felt much harder as the computer user community is much larger and in many cases users now had not been through a jump from one OS to another.

With the amount of applications Majorgeeks lists for download its a huge job to change all the descriptions, but I do know MA is doing this as and when he gets a chance to adjust the supported OSes, hence as you noticed some only state XP/2003/Vista etc

so in 2 years will WIN ALL mean only Vista?
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You are correct also as this will change around this time next year when the next Windows version is due to be released, most software that work with Vista and XP should work with it but some may not, this will continue over time with each new OS release the ones 3 or 4 generations back will be dropped from developers active list and will likely not be compatible with those older generations.

LI_Geek_95 · Dec 4, 2008

i dont think that 98 will ever fully die out.
My grandma still uses 3.1!!!

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