I see nothing

Discussion in 'Malware Help (A Specialist Will Reply)' started by smilinggeek, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. smilinggeek

    smilinggeek Private E-2

    OK, my ISP is claiming that this computer is somehow infected. Client bank details were apparently found on a website somewhere. Client insists this is the only computer they use for banking. I can't find a thing. Am I missing anything from any of the attached logs, or is someone lying to me?

    SASLog: (putting it here to not have to do 2 posts...)

    SUPERAntiSpyware Scan Log
    http://www.superantispyware.com

    Generated 03/21/2009 at 03:44 PM

    Application Version : 4.25.1014

    Core Rules Database Version : 3808
    Trace Rules Database Version: 1763

    Scan type : Complete Scan
    Total Scan Time : 00:19:21

    Memory items scanned : 337
    Memory threats detected : 0
    Registry items scanned : 4243
    Registry threats detected : 0
    File items scanned : 14161
    File threats detected : 0
     

    Attached Files:

  2. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Please clarify why your ISP is telling you a PC belonging to someone else is infected. Are you running a business fixing PCs and you put a PC that belongs to someone else on your network? What specifically did your ISP say and why would they say anything about a 3rd parties banking information?
     
  3. smilinggeek

    smilinggeek Private E-2

    It's my ISP, it's also their ISP, hence the mis-type.

    The computer was on their network at their place of business being used by them when this happened. I only found out about it when I went to visit, and offered to look at the system for them in return for a small fee (they're friends), hence they are "clients", although I don't pretend to be an expert malware remover. I did part of the scans at their place of business, and part of the scans at home, but wasn't able to find anything. I was just asking here to see if my "nothing here" is correct, or if I missed something in the logs that I attached.

    The intrusion was confirmed as the ISP security team was able to give this client their banking password that had been found on a cracker website.

    Will be going back later to scan the other computers at their workplace, although they insist that those computers are never used to do any banking. But was just looking for confirmation that the logs I attached show nothing, or did I miss something obvious?
     
  4. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Okay!

    Yes the logs are clean. You should delete the below file though:

    c:\windows\005706_.tmp

    One problem that stands out is that this PC has no protection which is very dangerous especially if a PC is going to be used for financial transactions.

    You should consider running a rootkit scan just to cover all bases.. See the tools list here: Alternative Scans

    Also this PC, and all other PCs they have, need to be properly protected with and antivirus, realtime antispyware blocking, and a real bidirectional firewall. The Windows firewall is inadequate. Basically what is in here How to Protect yourself from malware! needs to be followed.


    Note: A PC does not have to be infected for someone's personal info to be stolen. They could have logged into an unsecured website and posted info they should not have posted. They could also have been tricked by email scams.....etc.
     
  5. smilinggeek

    smilinggeek Private E-2

    thanks.

    OK, thanks, will go through the list to see which ones are "free" for business use. I haven't found much out there, and with all the extra tools actually necessary to "secure" Windows (or at least make it less porous) it can easily add another $200 per machine for a small business.


    Yeah, I know. But I still need to make sure that their systems are clean in order to rule that out.

    I'm going to try to migrate these people away from Windows, but some of the tools they use are "Windows only" (including on ONLINE, web based system!! Idiots.) so it's not going to happen quickly. I wish the companies that continue to insist on "Microsoft only" tools, especially when it's so unnecessary, could be held responsible as accomplices in Microsofts continuing anti-trust activities, I really do.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  6. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Your welcome.

    Most companies will provide either a site license or a small number of licenses for a reduced fee.
     
  7. smilinggeek

    smilinggeek Private E-2

    Yeah, but one currently needs SEVERAL tools in order protect a typical Windows system. This adds up. Plus the "site license" deals that I've seen so far, with some exceptions, don't tend to be worth it (or even kick in) until you have 10+ machines - which is unlikely for a small business.

    It's a pity I'm such a stick-in-the-mud when it comes to following license rules as set out by greedy, self-serving companies dealing with a captive audience. But that's the law, and I'm not going to jeopardize a client's business by having them break it.
     
  8. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    That's the cost of doing business these days. ;)
     
  9. smilinggeek

    smilinggeek Private E-2

    Whereas from my perspective it's "that's the cost of doing business with an abusive monopoly". Business clients that I've convinced to leave this monopoly are quite happy with their lowered costs of operation and increased reliability. Hard to do unfortunately, as there as so many people and organizations out there who are bound and determined, either through laziness or sheer spite, to assist in maintaining the lock-in.
     
  10. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Everyone has their own likes and dislikes. Some people need Windows PC because of either software or hardware contraints. Personally I prefer PCs. I have used MACs and I also have many UNIX based workstations.
     
  11. smilinggeek

    smilinggeek Private E-2

    I try not to have "preferences". It gets in the way of deciding what's better for the job at hand. I DO try to look at things like effectiveness for the job, total cost of ownership, potential for lock-in, and the ethics of the company that I'll be dealing with (however indirectly).
     
  12. chaslang

    chaslang MajorGeeks Admin - Master Malware Expert Staff Member

    Which is why I use PCs. They are the most effective and least costly tools for the work I do. When added together with a few UNIX type workstations that we need for other aspects of our work, this works well for our projects.
     

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