Something very bad happening on this site?

Discussion in 'Software' started by AnotherGeekster, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. AnotherGeekster

    AnotherGeekster Private E-2

    I did a search for Skype (through majorgeeks search function)
    and the first result brings me to this page:

    http://majorgeeks.com/download4245.html

    As far as I can see, that is the official majorgeeks site.

    Okay, now if you let the mouse hover over the link on the
    left side of that page where it says "Author: Skype Technologies S.A"

    and check your browser status bar, you see that it doesn't
    give the real Skype site! It goes to this address:

    httpREMOVETHIS://www.kqzyfj.com/click-1042208-10386659

    (I added "REMOVETHIS" to keep the link from being clickable.)

    What's going on? Has majorgeeks been hacked?

    PLEASE NOTE: The link I'm referring to is NOT the one that says
    "the author's site" (written under the word DOWNLOADS).
    Rather, it is the link on the LEFT side of the page that is supposed
    to take you to the author's site. I'll copy the text here to show
    you but will not make the link clickable to prevent readers
    from trying to go there:

    Author: Skype Technologies S.A
    ^^^^^ SEE HERE ^^^^^
    Date: 2009-03-30
    Size: 1.88 MB
    License: Freeware
    Requires: Win XP/2K
    Downloaded: 244244 Times



    I checked from 3 different computers and all of them are giving me
    the same result, so I don't think it's any spyware/adware trying
    to redirect links on my computer!

    Wait, there's more!

    I went to the antivirus section, and the Avast free home edition
    "author's site" link gives this:

    httpREMOVETHIS://esd.element5.com/affiliate.html?publisherid=26451&affiliateid=71706&target=http://www.avast.com

    Yet the F-Secure package that MajorGeeks has seems to give the
    correct address, so not all the postings on majorgeeks are affected.

    Can somebody confirm this?
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2009
  2. Cordialis

    Cordialis MajorGeek

  3. plastidust

    plastidust Command Sergeant Major

    If you click on the link it will take you to: skype.com
     
  4. AnotherGeekster

    AnotherGeekster Private E-2

    Okay, it looks like Majorgeeks is peppered with these bogus links.
    I don't think it was always like that before, I've used majorgeeks for years
    to get software.

    The skype page on majorgeeks says it's been downloaded 244247 Times.
    It's doubtful in all those times none of us never noticed the author's site
    didn't match up! Am I to conclude someone has managed to hack in
    to MajorGeeks and change the links? That may also explain why ONLY
    the link to the author's site and not the "download from author's site" link
    has changed -they may have had difficult extending the hack that far?
     
  5. Cordialis

    Cordialis MajorGeek

    The Mods should look into this. :eek
     
  6. AnotherGeekster

    AnotherGeekster Private E-2

    That link would take you first to kqzfyj.com, from there it might then
    redirect you to skype.com. (Assuming you clicked on the correct link:
    NOT the "download from author's site" but the link TO the author's site
    on the left hand side of the page.) You'll know if you have the same
    link or not by looking at the status bar of your browser WITHOUT
    clicking on the link and seeing if it gives the address for kqzfyj.com.

    Are you sure you didn't get redirected? On one of my test computers,
    I purposely clicked on that link but my security software won't even
    let me see it, so something is bad there. I don't recommend anyone
    click on that link.

    But kqzfyj.com is a malware/phishing site according to reports I've found.
    They pretend to be the authors of software they have nothing to do with.

    Folks, watchout for redirects and other tricks: the author's site link for AVAST on major geeks does fishy stuff. It looks like this:

    httpREMOVETHIS://esd.element5.com/affiliate.html?publisherid=26451&affiliateid=71706&target=http://www.avast.com

    So when you click on that, it is really esd.element5.com that is handling
    your click. The end of that link containts "avast.com" so the element5
    website will know enough to redirect you, feed you fake software,
    do a drive-by infection, etc.....

    Something isn't right and I'm convinced now the problem has nothing
    to do with my end!

    People, WATCH OUT, somebody is up to no good.
     
  7. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Reported.
     
  8. Cordialis

    Cordialis MajorGeek

    :cool Thanks to AnotherGeekster, Plodr and TimW...
     
  9. Corporal Punishment

    Corporal Punishment Head of Software Shenanigans Staff Member

    Those are correct links. Sometimes affiliate links like that are used for sales tracking. That’s one of the ways we pay the bills here. For example:

    esd.element5.com/affiliate.html?publisherid=26451&affiliateid=71706&target=

    the publisher ID of 26451 denotes avast and the affilateid of 71706 is MajorGeeks. Element5 is the official house that handles the sales for Avast.

    The Skype link is the same thing, but they use a system that encrypts the links (like tinyurl) so as not to be too long.

    Hope that explains it.
     
  10. AnotherGeekster

    AnotherGeekster Private E-2


    Okay, that makes sense if you guys put it there on purpose as part of
    an affiliate program, since kqzyfj and element5 both are listed as affiliate
    or valueclick sites.

    The reason my security software blocked kqzyfj.com seems to do with that
    url being on a blacklist, but considering they may have been
    handling more than just Skype's software, it's possible they had a bad
    egg or two in the past that earned them the bad ranking. Of course,
    this would make it erroneously appear that majorgeeks was serving up
    bad links when your affiliate gets blocked.

    I unblocked the skype affiliate link and sure enough...it redirected
    directly to the authentic skype.com site.

    Thanks for the info, I didn't know majorgeeks was putting in affiliate
    links. In the past I hadn't noticed any but maybe that's
    because a lot of the author's links on majorgeeks take you directly
    to the author's true site without any redirects. (ie. kaspersky, f-secure,
    gmer, etc.)

    I do see a slight risk in that (ie. if an affiliate site changes ownership
    and later decides to insert drive-by malware onto computers before
    redirecting you) but that's outside of majorgeek's scope.

    Again, thank you.
     
  11. Corporal Punishment

    Corporal Punishment Head of Software Shenanigans Staff Member


    We very much limit the companies we will do business with for those sorts of things to avoid any issues. Some authors my not offer an affiliate program; some do business with folks we would rather not.

    We are pretty picky about it though.
     

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