Why you shouldn't leave your kid home with dangerous dog breed

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by LauraR, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    :-D


    Someone had gotten this in an email and told me about it.
     

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  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Poor doggie!
     
  3. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek

    LOL! That poor dog will be the laughing stock of the neighborhood!:-D
     
  4. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    I think he might match the sofa now. :-D
     
  5. ShelaghRoyale

    ShelaghRoyale Sergeant

    I totally agree with you :-D

    I'm amazed that the dog [ a Staffordshire bull terrier]would actually let the child do that. These types of dog can be a little unpredictable at times, especially around children. In Canada, in several cities within the province of Ontario, the Staffordshire bull terriers are banned because of numerous attacks on people and specially children.


    Shelagh :)
     
  6. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    A lot of people think 'bully' dogs are nasty. Fact is, they are some of the sweetest dogs, and that includes Pit bulls. It's the people that own them that make them nasty and they are the ones you hear about. It's amazing how many people see my boxer and look at me incredulously and say how is he with your kids. Fact is, he's a big teddy bear.
     
  7. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek

    Oh, Laura, you are so right.. But also, how the dog is raised doesn't help either... rolleyes I have seen some pretty darn nice Pits and wasn't the least bit afraid to help one whelp, and she didn't know me from Adam, but she was hurting, and was as gentle as can be... (Her owner called me as he was nervous about her first litter, and he had to go to work!) She was a good dog, very gentle, and had a beautiful litter of pups..
    that dog was raised in a loving home, and was a good dog.. Not all are as lucky..:(

    I have also seen the "stereotype with Dobermans too. I never seen a bad dog, but sure have seen a lot of people who should never have had a dog in the first place...:mad

    Now, when you have idiots take these dogs and ruin them for life, they can never be trusted around kids.. But that should never include ALL the dogs of any particular breed...
     
  8. da.bell

    da.bell Private First Class

    Staffy's are the best. Had one 10 years ago and the ex-wife got the dog during the divorce. He was great with children.

    Honestly, it's the owners and not the dogs that are the issue.
     
  9. ShelaghRoyale

    ShelaghRoyale Sergeant

    Hmm.. I agree as well, not all Pits are nasty, but I guess in Canada, the Pit bull situation is not taken lightly, especially after children's faces needed re-construction; therefore banning the breed was the only solution. My bad for stating fact... ;)
    I won't do it again....
    Being with security within the military makes me very aware about what is fact. Good day all ! :wave
    Shelagh :)
     
  10. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member


    I don't think anyone was trying to dispute your point Shelagh :) There is definitely numerous data on Pit Bull attacks. I believe there are places in the US where they are banned also. I still believe it's a problem with the type of owner that these types of dogs attract. It may be a good thing that they are banned in certain areas.

    Anyway, the point of the picture was just to be funny and cute. :)
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2009
  11. bigtrucks

    bigtrucks MajorGeek

  12. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    The Guy's parents have a young Dobermann, just about a year old, and he is the sweetest and most affectionate dog I have ever seen, really just a big happy kid who LOVES when he gets to put his head on your lap and have you rub his neck. I swear sometimes I think I hear him purr... he is a complete and total sweetheart and really just a big baby.

    Around his family.

    Around strangers he is cautiously polite, watching from a distance until he is convinced they are not a threat to the ones he loves. I pity the poor unfortunate bastard that ever tries to harm any member of this family when that dog is nearby, because he will try to kill them... but in everyday social and polite interactions with any stranger out there, he is perfectly safe, very well behaved, and he would never harm anyone who isn't an obvious threat to him or his family.

    Dobermann Pinchers are like any other breed. They act the way they think their humans want them to act -- the aggressive ones were made that way by the people around them. Sometimes they are beyond help and for everyone's safety they need to be put away, but it is extremely rare that a dog is born that way.
     
  13. Calltaker

    Calltaker MajorGeek

    I about choked when I saw that... too funny!!!

    From a dog owner who swore he'd never allow a pit into his house, I have to say they are amazingly gentle and loving creatures (if a little on the high energy side) I've met.... scary smart too.

    American Stafforshires are very family oriented if brought up right. Granted, dogs are like people in that you get crazies here and there in both, it's just a little harder to see it in a dog before the 'snap'. Also, you can't tell if a dog has a brain lesion until after a bunch of testing, that's how I lost my shepherd, thank god he bit me and not some little kid, but it was an illness, not an attitude issue.

    ~C
     
  14. TeeCee

    TeeCee MajorGeek


    So true, Mimsy, so true.. I have seen some Dobes that were so gentle, I sure wouldn't mind having one... It sure is sad, when people raise them to be so aggressive.. Yeah, a lot have to be put down, because they just can't be trusted at all.. They sure do make a great family dog, and protector of the family.... Yeah, I would just about bet nobody would mess with the Guy's Parent's Dobe.. Even at 1 year, he still has a lot of pup in him, but he is also alert, and isn't going to let any stranger mess with 'his' family... That is one thing I liked best about them.. They are so good with their family, so don't mess with the family, and nobody will have to get stitches ;)
     
  15. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    He's an overly energetic teenager LOL

    He scared the crap out of us a month or so ago... we're all over at their house, lounging in the afternoon shade on the back patio with mojitos and cold beer, all of us sitting or laying on comfortable chairs and couches when all of a sudden the dog gets up, head down, shoulders squared, and begins stalking very purposely towards the fence surrounding the backyard, all the while growling. The kind of very deep, throaty, I-will-rip-your-throat-open-and-kill-you growl that is a very serious threat and is the last step before attack.

    There's a very low-traffic street behind the fence, and a couple of kids where skateboarding behind it, and apparently they were too close to the fence for dobie's liking. When they ignored him he shoulder-tackled the fence and then growled a LOT louder. We heard some frantic scrambling behind the fence and when we went to see what was going on, the street was entirely empty. Dobie patrolled the fence side of the back yard for the next hour, in case the kids were stupid enough to return...

    Once we realized he was just trying to protect his family, we rubbed his neck and told him he was a good, good boy. LOL
     
  16. GypsyBlood

    GypsyBlood Private E-2

    What a fabulous photo!! It would be grand if the "news" media would publish this photo! The dog pictured is a Bull Terrier. Staffordshires do not have such a point to their muzzle (the staffies have a more squared head). English and American Staffordshires differ only in height, Americans being taller. Pit Bull are generally staffs, or mongreled versions, owned by vicious jerks. Most animals behave as they are taught by their humans. Aggressive human = aggressive dog. Lazy human = ill-mannered dog. Obedient human = obedient dog. LOL! I've met several dog trainers who've all told me that the humans are the more difficult to train, the dogs love the discipline of training!
    We had an English Staff who was so loving and sweet natured!! She always slept with her nose tucked into my husband's neck! Sturgis was timid around my infant daughter, but the girl grew and the dog would plop down and become a 'pillow' while the child read stories!! Sadly, Sturgis died at age 10-1/2 of a brain tumor.
    Thanks for sharing this funny photograph!
     
  17. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    When people tell how good their dog is and how the kids can do ANYTHING to it and it takes it.
    I always say, "how sad for the poor dog"!
     
  18. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

    I agree, it's the way a dog is brought up that determines it's stature as a pet. My mom has a German Shepherd, and she's the biggest sissy in the world, you can do whatever you want with her, and she's completely complacent. My brother has two young kids, and they hang all over her. She might yelp if they hurt her, but she'll yelp & relocate herself.

    She'll wrestle with me, even let me get a couple solid jabs in on her sides, and she'll not bite me. She may stick my hand in her mouth and let me know she's fast enough to change the situation, but she never bites.

    I do however think that if there was in intruder at my parents house, the dog would not only attack them, but be filled with enough rage to go and seek out the family of the attacker. :)

    A friend of mine had a 220 Pound Brazilian Mastiff, she didn't have to be mean, if she barked at you and you persisted, you deserved whatever she gave you. She was a sweetheart too though, but a little big to be jumping around playing with kids, she wasn't ever around any though.

    I use to have a boxer, she was the best. I got her from Lancaster. Man, could she run like the wind.
     
  19. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member


    I think that's more a figure of speech, darlene. I know my kids could do anything to Oscar and he wouldn't hurt them. HOWEVER, my kids have never in their lives been allowed to mistreat an animal. I have no patience for parents who allow their kids to poke or prod in a nasty way. The problem is kids have to learn. So if they get a poke in before corrected (hopefully), it is nice to be confident that your dog will not react in an aggressive way.
     
  20. Greywood1862

    Greywood1862 Private First Class

    You can make a Pit Bull or Staffordshire or Poodle or Chihuahua as mean as you want it to be. The difference is a Pit Bull is built to back it up. They are athletes who were originally bred to fight, but that doesn't mean that they are bad dogs.
     
  21. abz1nthe

    abz1nthe Command Sergeant Major

    haha animal cruelty!! Someone lock that kid up!
     
  22. bigtrucks

    bigtrucks MajorGeek

    I had a dobby once when I was pregnant with my son and we lived with my ex'es sister w\ the dobby and her 2 1/2 yr old daughter who repeatedly got punished for "riding" on the dogs back. Her punishment was a pop on the padded butt and in the chair. The pop was just that a very light touch to the butt. After an hour and 4 pops with the chair something did not set right with me and the mother about the whole situation. We both decided to put the child in a chair where we could watch to see when she got down to get on the dog. Needless to say both myself and the mother felt like total and utter fools when we watched the "dog" go over to the child and nudge her several times to get down off the chair and he(the dog) would actually lie down for her to get on him! Not believing what we seen the first time we put her back in the chair and again the same thing happened. Talk about two people who felt like total BUTTS for punishing the child for something she had not done.:-o After that we never worried about leaving her alone with the dog.
    btw 2months later my nephew broke into the home and stole some food out of the refridge and the dog. :cry

    Moral of the story, You can't judge a book by it's cover all the time. Read it for yourself or just leave it a lone. jmo
     
  23. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member


    That dog looks like he feels like he's getting a massage. :-D
     
  24. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    LOL, I love that story BT!!:) I had a dober too(we all call them differently) but she got bored in the house while I was working and destroyed the furniture!:cry Smart dog but was stupid in some areas, one of which was wrapping her chain around the tree and not reversing, just barked until I got complaints. rolleyes I'll post up a couple of Poloroids in the pets thread when I get my scanner installed.
     
  25. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    No, I have heard people brag that the kids can run and jump on the poor animal, pull it's ears, shove things in it's mouth. Then end it with, "that dog ever snap or growl at my kids I'd throw it against the wall".
    Yep actually knew them they treated their kids the same way.
     
  26. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    What a story BT, get the dog back?
     
  27. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    And that is of course the big problem with Pit Bulls. One of my co-workers has a Pit Bull (female), that he admits is very short-tempered, especially around her food. So the family has a rule to never bother the dog when she eats. One day he caught his five year old go up to the dog, take her food and play with it, and the usually very food-aggressive dog didn't even growl, just kept nudging the kid with her head over and over until the boy backed away and gave her access to the food again.

    Well trained and mature dogs are extremely tolerant around the family "puppies".

    The Guy's parents had a second dobermann, a younger female. She ate a sock, that of course got stuck and caused severe pain and dehydration, and she had to have surgery. When she was about 80% recovered from the surgery (and they did everything and more to care for her), she got sepsis in the intestine they did surgery on... some food she ate got stuck in the still healing wound and caused a severe infection. In panic they rushed her back to the vet, who as gently as possible told them it was so far gone that surgery would not help, and all he could do was to ease the pain and make her comfortable while they said farewell. She was ten months old.

    That was a rough day. :(
     
  28. Spad

    Spad MajorGeek

    Kid is just getting his dog-friend all tattooed up so he can mesh with the other bad dogs around the 'hood . . . :p
     

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