Any idea why my computer is telling me that a harddrive is full?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by xhomewreckerx, Nov 9, 2009.

  1. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    There's no way that I have this much stuff on here, and if I open that folder, everything in it is small.

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    Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
     
  2. collinsl

    collinsl MajorGeek

    Please right click on the drive icon, choose properties, and post a screen shot of the pie chart.
     
  3. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

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  4. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Try SpaceSniffer or Windirstat. They help show which files are taking up space. Post back with any questions.
     
  5. Caliban

    Caliban I don't need no steenkin' title!

    Seems rather odd that the drive is showing that much usage, especially since you don't seem aware of having added that much data...that, coupled with the "everything in it is small" statement, makes me think there may be something going on with the drive...

    You might try running some diagnostics from the HD's manufacturer...
     
  6. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Entire contents of the drive:

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    What are these diagnostic tools?
     
  7. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    If you right-click on Corey_PC or WindowsImageBackup and select Properties how big are those folders?

    I'm not sure if a Manufacturer's Hard Drive diagnostic will show you why you have no free space.

    In Computer just right-click the D: drive select Properties and under the Tools tab choose Check Errors and then select both check boxes and OK. That should check the file system to make sure there isn't a flaw with the calculating of free space.

    If still the same I would use SpaceSniffer to see if it finds files in either of those two folders. Could WindowsImageBackup have lots of copies of your C: drive?
     
  8. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    WOW.. Only 162 GB though

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  9. jlphlp

    jlphlp Master Sergeant

    Hi,

    Small is not necessarily small. Even a one byte file takes up a whole Cluster and depending on the size and formatting of the drive can be 32 MB or better. Any file that is not an even multiple of your cluster size wastes the remainder of the last cluster. Some refs list the actual used area of the drive including the waste and others list the actual file sizes added up with no regard for the wasted space.

    Jim
     
  10. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Can I just delete everything in that folder? Seeing as windows will make another.
     
  11. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I really wish you would use either Windirstat or Space Sniffer to see exactly what is on that drive. It has capacity over 400gb. So far you only see 162gb in Winbackup but no individual files in that folder? Corey_PC is also a folder what is its size? Any files in it?

    CoreyPC has to be holding some more files to take up the remaining 200+gb. It would be wise to see what they are before ypu choose to delete your backup.

    Emptying the WinBackup should be OK but you really should be looking more closely at it to see when the last backup occurred. You also want to know if it contains several backup images or just one large one. It is possible that it is just keeping one copy of your whole C: partition so by emptying the folder you will be deleting the only backup.

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    I've never actually used Windows Backup so I'm unsure if Corey_PC is related to that program. Either way you definitely have something that can be deleted from that HD to make more free space. But you want to know what it is before you delete it.
     
  12. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Ill try that program when I get home tonight.
     
  13. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Well, here it is! Please advise what I should do next.

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  14. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    I'd love to help, but the images are a bit blurry.

    Not sure if either of those programs will show hidden files and folders, during their scan.

    If you were to open your explorer window, hit the ALT key once, click tools, then folder options, then view tab, then select the radial button "Show hidden files, folders, and drives". Click okay.

    Does it show more?

    Also, I wonder if any system restore folders are in there. Perhaps shadowcopy or recycle bin storage (from Right click recycle bin, properties. Does it show anything interesting there?).

    Also, system protection. Click "start" orb, right click computer, then properties, then on left click advanced system settings, then system protection, does D: show up in Proetection settings? If so, you may want to check out how much its saving for that drive.
     
  15. theefool

    theefool Geekified

  16. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    I did enable that option in windows explorer, but nothing else showed up.
     
  17. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

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    Hope you can see it now! lol
     
  18. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    Edit..............
     
  19. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    Yep, your drive is full, from that picture. Much clearer on my 1920x1200 resolution. ;)
     
  20. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Yeah I know. It sucks because an error keeps popping up telling me it's full!

    What can I delete?
     
  21. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    Well, since they are all backup files, delete the old ones. Perhaps the first backup set.

    BTW, doing full backups are fine, for good points of restores. Doing incrementals, might be better. Less space used. BUT, you have to restore to the full, then the incrementals. Or differentials. Or data dedup. But, then we are talking about enterprise levels, which I won't go.
     
  22. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Yeah, the thing is doing it all automatically though. I haven't done any of these.

    Im really not sure what to delete though. In Corey_PC there is only one file that is actually dated.. Here, this is what is in the Windows Backup Image folder.

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  23. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    What software do you use to do the backup? You may need to tell that software to delete previous backups.
     
  24. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Yes, I can see it now. The dates I guess are in European format.

    I don't use Windows Backup but glanced at how it works today. It creates an image backup which will restore your whole C: drive completely--all files included.
    It also backs up stuff like User settings, My Documents and My Pictures separately so that you could selectively restore specific files without overwriting the whole OS.

    All your backups seem recent one complete image in WindowsImageBackup and several smaller ones of your documents and settings in Corey_PC. You can safely remove all files in Corey_PC except backup set 2009-11-08. That will free up space but it will soon be filled again. It does a backup once a week. So Corey_PC will fill again in 2 mos.

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    I think you should consider storing some files on a separate partition rather than your OS ( C: ) partition. I couldn't see exactly what your C: partition holds but it is at least 100gb. Is a lot of that music or video? Games? Some of that could be moved to the D: drive instead of being repeatedly backed up. Or you could create a second partition on your primary HD and move your music or whatever over there so it is not repeatedly copied. You have plenty of space but it is being used up by backups. You probably don't really want to have two copies of all your music files.

    Usually all you want backed up is your OS, your program files and any stray documents you have on your C: drive. That should be about 20gb tops. Because you have so much extra stuff on the C: drive each backup takes 160gb which is too big. I think the only way to fix that is move it and get in the habit of storing it separately.
     
  25. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    I'm not doing it. Windows does it all on it's own.
     
  26. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Are you on Vista or XP or Win7?
     
  27. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    I did delete those files, and now it looks like this. And it didn't clear any space?

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  28. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Win7 RC. Still waiting for my copy of the retail from the manufacturer.
     
  29. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Sorry, those little files aren't what I meant. I hadn't seen your post about the individual backups not being visible in the folder. If they are in recycle bin you can go ahead and restore them. We will probably end up deleting them so don't worry if they aren't there.

    I only read one google result for deleting old backups and it had a registry edit involved which shouldn't be necessary. I'll have to read a bit more about Windows Backup to advise you any further. Right now I would think if it were possible deleting the whole Corey_PC folder would be OK since you have a full image backup but I'd rather read several pages about how the program works before saying to do it.

    There must be a way to limit how much space it is allowed for backups. Taking over an entire 500gb drive makes no sense. You could open the program from the start menu (type in Windows Backup) and look at the settings. See if there are any options. I have Win7 but haven't set it up and because of a project that is taking up ridiculous amounts of space, I don't have enough room to test it to see how it operates first-hand.

    I'll look into things and post back tomorrow on what I find.
     
  30. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    I just went into the WindowsImageBackup folder and then to CoreyPC and deleted everything in it. Got 162GB back. And I did try and load the program, but nothing came up.

    Thank you so much for helping me with this.
     
  31. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Windows Help will actually give you some good info about the backup program. Just start Help and type Back Up. Read the Frequently Asked Questions. "How much Storage Space..." tells you how to manage space. You can open Back Up and Restore from there.

    It looks like you deleted your Image File Backup which is the one I would recommend you actually choose to let Back Up keep creating. It will give you a complete restoration of your C: drive although it will cost you close to 200gb if you continue to keep so many non critical files on C:.

    At this point I would go ahead and delete your old file backups. Just clear everything out and start fresh. Or just keep the one file backup set for 2009-11-08.

    Then set it up to make only a system image backup. Don't have it make separate file backups. That will limit it to using only the same amount of space your C: drive uses, yet still give you a complete copy of your C: drive if anything ever goes wrong.

    Later, if you ever decide you need that 200gb you can turn off the Back Up function altogether. Of course, if you keep less non-critical files like videos/music on your C: drive you can greatly reduce the amount of space Back Up uses in the first place and still be able to reload the OS if necessary.
     
  32. xhomewreckerx

    xhomewreckerx Private First Class

    Oh my. Thank you so much Sach! I just deleted teh September and October backup, and the November one is still there. I now have 375gb free on that drive!! :)
     
  33. cake

    cake Corporal

    fyi on posting pics...if you upload to tinypic.com, it'll reduce the size for posting and allow clicking on to show full size, so you don't have to post more than once. then you can just delete pic from your system if you don't need to keep
     
  34. Mabinogi

    Mabinogi Private E-2

    Thank u 4 this app.:-D

    I'm very surprised that after using this, i got from 10% - 11% - 12% and finally 21% of more free space on my comp.!!!!!!!!!!! :-D

    again, thank u 4 this great app.;)
     

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