Laptop will not boot up.

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by inventor1949, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    Hi there again,
    I have a problem that I don't understand, the laptop will pass the Microsoft logo and go in to black screen with the chooses to boot at safe mode or start with the last known config, so I go with that and it goes as far as the green field and gets stuck there for ever. If I try to boot on safe mode or safe mode with networking then I get to the blue screen of death.
    The laptop works fine if I insert my back up HDD.
    And the HD in question have all the data in tack ....:confused:confused
     
  2. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Your registry/installation has become corrupt.

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

    You will receive more and more detailed help if you include more information in your next post including your system specs,operating system ect.
     
  3. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    I knew their was e problem with my post kind a skimpy on info :-o... thanks.

    what I have is Inspiron E1705
    With WinXp media center and the OS was pre-installed I have only a recovery disk.

    At present the laptop is ruining with a back up HD in edition I have axes to the damaged HD through a USB 2.0 to SATA cable.
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2009
  4. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I'd read this whole post before you jump in.;)

    Your in luck then you can perform that operation by navigating through the damaged hard drive and just copy and pasting the repair files.

    So go to my computer your broken drive is probably named D: now as it is a secondary drive and find this folder-


    Now make a folder we'll call it 'backup' for the time being and place it somewhere safe,copy these files from that folder and paste them into your backup folder

    System,software,sam,security,config .

    These are the backups of your old registry config files,if you have trouble with part 2 and 3 of the procedure your can always copy and paste these back and it will be like you never touched it.

    Now go to

    And copy and paste these files System,software,sam,security,config and paste all 5 of them to your broken

    "Click yes when prompted"

    You have now made the registry as though its a new computer and it should boot up using the broken drive.

    To repair your computer to a previous working state follow the steps in step 2 while booted into your BROKEN drive but none of your settings or programs will run at startup.

    When you get to part 3 do this the same way as I have shown you in part 1 just copy and pasting the files while booted up using your BACKUP drive with your broken drive as secondary.

    Steps 2 and 3 are basically a long winded way of using system restore.

    If you can't get your head around it just beg or borrow an XP CD and follow the guide word for word from the microsoft site,your recovery disk will restore your computer like new but you will have to install all your programs again,this may seem easier if you have the patience.
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2009
  5. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    Sorry Rikky, their some files/folders missing? see pick or I'm not reading your notes right.

    Look at the pick and knottiest the address on the address bar, their isn't a system folder.

    And let me see if I got this right; I'm taking the good files from the "repair folder of the broken HD and replacing the "bad" ones in the system folder of the same drive correct?
     

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  6. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    In your system folder they are just written in capital letters that's all;) And yes to your second question,first you are BACKING UP the "bad" ones which are the ones written in capital letters to a "safe" folder so if anything goes wrong you can always put them back.

    So copy and paste
    to a folder "you can always cut and paste them" then cut
    and paste them into your windows folder.
     
  7. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Sorry I said cut the repair files,I meant copy.
     
  8. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    One more thing before I reboot, the new "good" file system.bak is not replacing the SYSTEM file, what do I do rename it or it will change after reboot, or what? :):)

    BTW I did see that "cut the repair files" not a problem........thanks
     
  9. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I'm not sure what you mean,you don't have anything to do with system.bak because your copying the files manually instead of console commands through the recovery console. :confused

    The 'system' file in the repair folder will replace the 'SYSTEM' file in the system 32/config folder.
     
  10. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    No sutch file look at the pick please only system.bak
     
  11. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/Rikky_/system.jpg

    system.bak isn't even in there:confused I've underlined all the files.

    This is the simplest part of the procedure,you may want to consider just using your repair disk or taking it to a store to be repaired,no offence intended.

    I won't be here to illustrate each step.
     
  12. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Wait a second ,my apologies you mean in your repair folder,sorry about that.

    I'm just seeing if there's a fix I haven't seen this before.
     
  13. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Yes just put the system.bak folder there instead of the SYSTEM folder and it should work fine.

    EDIT If it doesn't remove the .bak.
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2009
  14. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    Its not on the good drive eather.
     

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  15. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    OK thanks I will do the switch and see what happens....
     
  16. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    OK success Rikky it boot it up like a brand new install now to restore it to a previous working state that part I'm not clear on it, can you elaborate Little, please, thanks for been so helpful.
     
  17. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Right then:-D Lets get stuck in :cool

    This next part will give you access to the volume information folder which is SUPER hidden,in here are the system restore files which we will be using shortly to restore your computer.

    Right follow this,when you get to stage 9 enter your user name in the "Enter the object names to select" box.

    In the "from this location" box it should have your user name

    For example John-F248bb876 , so in the "Enter object names to select" Box you would type 'John.' and click OK.

    So one step at a time,once you have access to the volume information folder post or if you are stuck post.:)
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2009
  18. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    I'm with you ;)
    I'm using the good HD to communicate here so the question is can I do this by having the bad one connected via the USB 2.0 to do the changes other wise I have to install reinstall.
    And I check the system volume folder and both good and bad HD have the same info.
     

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  19. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Right all we're gonna do now is take some good config files from the volume information folder,rename them and put them in your windows folder so all your programs load.

    First thing make a new folder call it 'good config files' or something and put this somewhere safe,now open one of the files 'two or three' places from the end NOT THE LAST ONE THOUGH because that's when your computer screwed up,open the snapshot folder in here you'll find those same configuration files but they are named differently

    Right so 'copy' all five these files put in your 'good config files' folder,now rename each one to just system,default,sam,security,software.

    Now boot back into your 'good' drive with your broken one as secondary and open your F:\windows\system32\config\ and delete,system,default,sam,security,software and copy those new files you've just renamed from your 'good config files' folder in their place.

    Now boot into your 'broken' hard drive and all your programs should be back.

    And we're done :) I hope :-D
     
  20. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Yeah you can but I've simplified it so it'll be more work but easier to understand,if you understand what you are doing now instead of just following my instructions then yes or you will start altering the files on your working drive.

    You can't use the config files in your volume information folder from your working drive to fix your broken drive for example.
     
  21. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    Hi, It don't let me insert the user name, "name not found".
    The name in "from this location" is the computer name "BEAR1" and the register to is "mike". Can I use any name?
     

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    Last edited: Nov 21, 2009
  22. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    One more thing if you please.
    If I boot with the bad one the "system volume folder is not their under the hidden folders.
     
  23. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Try mike then but if this is while your booted into your good drive you can't use these config files because your software ect. is different.

    Have you had system restore disabled?

    Try this then,boot into you GOOD drive and navigate to your bad one F:System volume information and see if it will allow you to view the files.
     
  24. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    Maybe I dint explained what I did correctly.

    By been booted with the good one and the bad on USB the “system volume” is accessible but it don’t take the “BEAR1” name, if ok I use mike.
    By been booted with the bad one the folder “system volume” is not present, I don’t remember if the system restore was ever disabled, is not now.
    But if the swap will work while the bad one is connected via USB I will precede ;) I do have a complete control as to what drive I’m working on.:major
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2009
  25. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    SUCSSES, SUCSSES, SUCSSES Rikky,:clap:tas:tas thank you thank you……………thank you, now where do I go and pay?
    I love this staff getting in to the hart and fixing the valves,:-D:-D now one last question can I do this file swap (for future reference of course) instead of system restore?
     
  26. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    That's sweet :) Seeing you happy is payment enough,well you could click the thanks button on a few of my posts I need more thanks :-D

    System Restore does more than just fix the registry so that's the best option,of course the best option is to find out what caused you computer to become unstable and fix it.
     
  27. inventor1949

    inventor1949 Private First Class

    Well that is what is puzzling all I did is close the lid with out turning the laptop off (I have it set up to do nothing when I close the lid) as I do every night and the next morning I opened it to get back to work and it never came back to life.
     
  28. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Well good luck with that :-D
     

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