I installed 4 GB memory, but Windows 7 sees only 2 GB

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Wooden Frog, Dec 4, 2009.

  1. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    Any idea of why? How would I go about fixing that?

    MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 Motherboard

    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Processor

    OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

    Thanks,

    John
     
  2. pclover

    pclover MajorGeek

    32 or 64 bit windows 7?
     
  3. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    32 bit. Will that not recognize 4 GB?
     
  4. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

  5. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    Well, maybe I screwed up. I put one of them in 1 black and the other in 1 blue.

    When I boot up, it says 2048Mb
     
  6. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

  7. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    OK thanks.

    I believe I put them in that way first but I think the computer wouldn't start that way so I left one on the black slot 1 and put the other on the blue slot 1.

    I'll try it the way you said tomorrow morning. I'm getting tired and better go to bed.
     
  8. pclover

    pclover MajorGeek

    Windows can support 4gb ram max. That includes your video ram etc. So if you have 4gb ram and a 512mb video card with a 32 bit os it will only show 3.5 gb ram.
     
  9. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    Agree but when 2Gb is missing this is implying something more;), hopefully he doesn't have a faulty module.
     
  10. pclover

    pclover MajorGeek

    I'm just saying this for his information when get gets it sorted.
     
  11. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    OK, I'm up. And before I go and do anything stupid (again) I want to make sure I don't really trash something. :-D

    What is dual channeling, and is that what I should be doing?

    How do you make it dual channel or is it automatic?
     
  12. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    OK, I fixed my problem (I think?)

    I pulled out the stick in slot three and tried the computer - no workie.

    Then I pulled out that stick, and put it in slot one - success, it worked.

    Then I put the other stick in slot two - no workie.

    So, I pulled that stick out and put it in slot three - it works. :)

    I must not have the first stick in slot one installed good.

    Hopefully I'm getting the rebuild about done.

    Here is the picture of what's available. Is that about right?

    http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/WoodenFrog/memory002.jpg
     
  13. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Yes thats about right, to use the full 4GB you will need to go 64bit Windows 7, 32bit just does not cope with 4GB even with any tweaks you may see on the net. So if your version pack of Windows 7 has the 64bit DVD then I would be inclined, especially with the specs of PC you have to go 64bit as it will be smoother and does cope with most software available, I have run 64bit for years and not come across any software I wish to use that doesnt work, actually gamings pretty good too, as Modern Warfare 2 runs like silky smooth.

    Specs of PC are

    Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz
    Corsair 6GB DDR3 Dominator PC3-12800C8 1600MHz
    Nvidia 8800GTS 640mb
    2xWD Raptors in Raid0
     
  14. Bold Eagle

    Bold Eagle MajorGeek

    Just concerned with why the "dual channels ain't" playing on the mobo! This above and beyond normal "I don't see 4Gb" issue.
     
  15. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2


    Well, I was wanting to go with 64 bit Windows but I bought an upgrade for XP and my XP was 32 bit. And I learned that I couldn't upgrade 32 bit XP to 64 bit Windows 7. :(

    I'll have to hold off on buying Windows 64 bit full install.
     
  16. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Ooooh now did you upgrade your XP to Windows 7 using the inplace upgrade over a clean install as thats not a supported upgrade path and could be why you are having issues?only upgrade path supported is from Vista.

    So clean install is always the best way as you dont have left over legacy files from the previous OS, downside is that you have to install all your apps and copy your important saved docs, images and files.

    But your total usable ram looks ok now for 32bit Windows, 3.25GB out of 4GB looks about right taking into concideration your GFX Card.
     
  17. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2


    When I upgraded with the 32 bit version of Windows 7 it cleaned everything I had on that drive (of course I knew that).

    I tried to use the 64 bit version of Windows 7, but it said that it wasn't compatable with the 32 bit version of Windows XP I was using.
     
  18. pclover

    pclover MajorGeek

    well inorder to install 64-bit win7 you need to do a clean install if your coming from 32-bit
     
  19. Wooden Frog

    Wooden Frog Private E-2

    Yeah, but I only bought a Windows 7 upgrade. I didn't know at the time that I bought it that it wouldn't allow me to upgrade to 64-bit if my XP was 32-bit. Dang suckers. :cry
     
  20. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    I would think having 3.25GB would be enough for most anything you could throw at it. However, I do understand the frustration of paying for something you will never use.:)

    I've been lucky enough to test out both and really found no practical difference nor doing some CPU/memory intensive tasks. There is no way I would buy a W7X64 unless you wanted to go 16GB which I don't believe that you will ever do. At least you got that original issue sorted.:)
     
  21. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    Since I don't see an answer to this anywhere...

    Hugely over-simplified and keeping in mind that it has been literally months since I bothered looking up the details:

    The data going through the RAM is moving in pulses, like the ticking back and forth of a metronome. (It's to a clock, actually.) At the end of the clock cycle, the RAM has to reset itself back to square one before the next clock cycle can start. When the RAM runs in dual channel the computer will move over to use the other module in the pair while it resets the first so data flow is continuous and there never is that pause for resetting. It makes the data flow smoother and faster, so if you can get it you want to have it.

    Dual channel is a feature of motherboards, not of memory modules, so if your board can do it it will do it automatically, if you install the RAM in the right slots. MSI try to be service minded by colour-coding the slots for you, to make it easy to get dual channel. When you install matched pairs, keep them together by colour: One pair goes in the blue slots, the other pair goes in the black. Presto! Dual channel.
     

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