Can't access one computer over network

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by carlrobison, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    I'm running 2 vista machines, one (Computer A) with a printer hooked up to it and i've always shared this printer over the network. I haven't made any changes to either computer, but now I can view all the files on Computer B from Computer A over the network, but I can't access Computer A from Computer B anymore, thus I can't use the printer. I've always gone into the Network and Sharing Center on Computer B, double clicked the network icon, double clicked the Computer A icon, then double clicked on the printer icon to access it. Now when I try to double click on the Computer A icon, I get the message: "\\computer a is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The network is not present or not started. For more info, press help." Here are the network settings for Computer A:

    Private Network
    Network Discovery: On
    File Sharing: On
    Public Folder Sharing: On (read only)
    Printer Sharing: On
    Password Protection Sharing: Off
    Media Sharing: Off

    Network settings on Computer B are the same as Computer A except next to File Sharing it says "Custom". I've clicked on the "turn on file sharing" option and clicked apply, but it still says custom.

    Thanks in advance for your help.
     
  2. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Just a quick thought for you, do you have any 3rd party firewall applications on one of both of these PCs, if so disable them to test, even if it worked before, at times updates to the firewall applications can knock out your connection.

    Can you from a command prompt and likely have to elevate it in Vista (type CMD into the Start Search box and then right click CMD and choose run as administrator) then type ping xxxxxxxx (where xxxxxxx is the IP address of the other PC)

    Try connecting to the other PC by typing RUN into the Start Search box and hitting enter then type //xxxxxxxxx (again xxxxxxxx is the IP of the other PC) and do you get an explorer window after a short while.
     
  3. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Thanks for your reply, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by Start Search box. Sorry.

    I don't have any 3rd party firewalls on either machine that I'm aware of.

    Thanks again for your help!
     
  4. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Just a slight correction its \\xxxxxxxxx not //xxxxxxxxx :)
     
  5. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Thanks, but I'm still not sure what's meant by "from a command prompt". I can go to RUN in the start menu and type in ping xxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx (the ip of the other computer) and I get a window that comes up and says "pinging xxx..... with 32 bytes of data" and then it says request timed out 4 times and the window closes. I hope this helps!

    Thanks!!!
     
  6. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    command prompt = goto START > RUN and type in CMD then OK. A COMMAND window will open and remain open until you exit it.

    Please list all the IP addresses of your machines.
     
  7. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Thanks for clarifying that. So I pinged the other computer but I just get request timed out so I guess it can't communicate with this computer. But I do still see this computer if I go to Network Sharing Center. The icon is there on the network, but it still won't let me access it. Is there a way I can just completely start over again? Maybe delete the network and settings I have and create another network? Thanks again!
     
  8. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Can you tell me what anti virus software you are running on the machine that can't share files. Can you turn it off for a moment and check?
     
  9. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Currently don't have any installed except super anitspyware. I turned it off but still can't access the computer.
     
  10. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Please follow this.

    By the way.....are both machines on the same workgroup?
     
  11. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Okay, I read through the linked page and everything looks good. The workgroup name on both computers is the same. One thing I noticed when I was looking at both computers is that on Computer A (the one with the printer), when I open up Network and Sharing Center and click on the network icon, I see 4 icons: Computer A, Computer B, Linksys Internet Gateway Device and MS Publication Service Device. But when I do the same on Computer B, I only have 3 icons: Computer A, Linksys Internet Gateway Device and MS Publication Service Device. So the computer itself isn't showing up here. I don't know if that means anything but I thought it may be something. Also, as mentioned before,
    Network settings on Computer B are the same as Computer A except next to File Sharing it says "Custom". I've clicked on the "turn on file sharing" option and clicked apply, but it still says custom. When I go back in to check if file sharing is on or off, neither button is selected.

    Thanks again for your help!
     
  12. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Curious. Do you have the same user account on both computers? If so, have you logged into both computers and on the one not showing the other, right clicked Network Places and tried to map the drive to the other computer?
     
  13. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Hi. I have different user accounts on the 2 computers. How do I go about trying to map the printer on the other computer? Thanks!
     
  14. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    First you need to create the same user account on the other computer. Then, when you right click on Network Places, you should have an option to map the drive.....then to browse to your other computer. Should be near the bottom of the files tree.
     
  15. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Tried to do this but I get the same message that computer A is not accessible.
     
  16. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

  17. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Thanks for your suggestions, but these all seem to be geared towards XP and I'm running Vista on both machines. Can I still go through the steps mentioned there? Thanks!
     
  18. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    There should be some similarities. Same principles are involved. But you may want to do a search for Vista sharing/networking.
     
  19. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Start / Help / type in network sharing and you should have all the info you need for vista.
     
  20. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    I spent about 3 hours last night going through all the suggestions in the help section and various internet sites but still the same results. Any other ideas? Isn't there a way I can just start over and try creating a new network? Would that help? Thanks
     
  21. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    From computer B, have you tried START > RUN > \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx OK? Where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of computer A.

    I saw this mentioned before but I did not see your answer to it.
     
  22. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    I did that and I get the message: Windows cannot access \\xx.xxx.xx.xx . So I clicked the diganose button and it gives me the message: xx.xxx.xx.xx is not set up to establish a connection on port "File and printer sharing (SMB)" with this computer.

    Thanks again for your help.
     
  23. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    OK. Is the Windows firewall off? If it is, my only other suggestion is to delete the network card in device manager and reboot the machine. Make sure you have drivers for your network card just in case Windows doesn't.
     
  24. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    The firewall is off. Before I delete the network card, I want to make sure I save the driver. I went to device manager and under Network adapters I double-clicked Atheros AR5007 802.11b/g WiFi Adapter. It opened up a window. I clicked on the Driver tab and clicked on Driver Details. It tells me the driver files are in C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athr.sys. If i take that file and copy it to make desktop, then delete the Network card, will I just be able to place this file back in this folder in case Windows can't find it?

    And when you say delete the network card, am I right-clicking on the Atheros AR5007 and selecting uninstall?

    Thanks again!
     
  25. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Hang on, what I am reading says that Computer A shows computer B, and Computer B is seeing Computer A. So they do see each other. But the issue I believe is that computer A is not allowing you to do file sharing. That for some reason file sharing is not ON in computer A. Is all that a reasonable interpretation?
     
  26. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    That's correct. In network sharing center, if I click on "View full map," I see an icon for Computer A, an icon for Computer B (one underneath the other), an icon for the network and an icon for the internet. But when I'm on computer B and double click on the icon for computer A, I get the message, "computer a is not accessible....."
     
  27. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    I was hoping I could get an opinion before I delete the network card as advised in a previous post. Before I delete the network card, I want to make sure I save the driver. I went to device manager and under Network adapters I double-clicked Atheros AR5007 802.11b/g WiFi Adapter. It opened up a window. I clicked on the Driver tab and clicked on Driver Details. It tells me the driver files are in C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athr.sys. If i take that file and copy it to make desktop, then delete the Network card, will I just be able to place this file back in this folder in case Windows can't find it?

    And when you say delete the network card, am I right-clicking on the Atheros AR5007 and selecting uninstall?
     
  28. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Yes and yes, though I am more concerned as to why you cant set file sharing in the one computer.
     
  29. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    Hi. So I uninstalled the adapter and it didn't help. I still can't access this computer. Any other ideas? Thanks for your help!
     
  30. carlrobison

    carlrobison Private E-2

    So now I'll throw something else into the mix. My daughter just got a netbook running XP (Computer C). It CAN access Computer A and the printer. So I'm guessing the problem is with Computer B? As mentioned before, I can't change the workgroup name on this computer because it's grayed out (so I just changed the workgroup name on Computer A and C to the same name as Computer B) and also on Computer B, in network settings, next to File Sharing it says "Custom". I've clicked on the "turn on file sharing" option and clicked apply, but it still says custom. When I go back in to check if file sharing is on or off, neither button is selected.

    Thanks again for all your help.
     

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