building a new comp need reveiwal

thesssfactor · May 26, 2010

Hey

I am building a comp to run 7, play video games and to share with my family....
It will almost always be on, and the comp will be running a java based program and or flash/movies at all times...

i am wondering if the memory is correct with the mobo and that the power supply is strong enough to make the comp run quiet...

below is the listings

Processor intel core 2 q9550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

vid card xfx pvt95gzafg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150322

memory gskill ripjaws 4gb 2*2gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

memory gskill ripjaws 4gb 2*2gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

mobo gibabyte ga-ep43t-usb3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128428

case apex pc 389-x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095

harddrive western cabiar black 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

power supply sunbea, 12v 680w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709027

pclover · May 26, 2010

Just a few things to point out

That PSU is very low quality. I would spend more and get a quality unit. Low quality power supplies can fail and take out components with it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012 would be my suggestion for a PSU.

What games are you going to play on the computer? If the computer is being used for flash videos and java stuff you do not need quad core or 8gb ram. Just overkill and waste of money. Also the memory you have selected is overkill for the type of application.

I would suggest a good dual core and 2-4 GB ram

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154102 Would suggest this for a case. You would pay the same price and this case has free shipping.

Burrell · May 26, 2010

My thouhgts are similar to below.

Scrap the 8Gb ram, you'll never use it, spend the cash on a good PSU, like a Corsair TX650.

Apart from that, it looks good to go!

collinsl · May 26, 2010

I have this text kindly provided for reproduction here by Digerati on the importance of a good power supply, please take the time to read it:

Digerati said:

It is important to ensure power supplies are capable of supporting the demands placed on them. A stressed or overworked power supply can cause stability problems, system lockups and reboots. In worse-case scenarios, a stressed supply can fail catastrophically and damage any device connected to it. Sadly, many computers, especially factory made computers, come with PSUs that are barely adequate to support the existing hardware. Simply adding two more RAM modules (sticks) can overtax them. Therefore is important to consider the greater power demands whenever adding or upgrading hardware. This is critically important with graphics card as they can, and often do demand more power than CPUs.

There are several calculators out there but I have found this to be the best. Note the results indicate the minimum size supply you need. And the default settings do not take into consideration how the computer is used, future upgrades or hardware changes. To ensure your new supply will provide years of faithful service, has enough horsepower to support heavy demands and is ready for future hardware upgrades, please follow the advice below to modify the specified parameters.
Use the eXtreme PSU Calculator Lite to determine your power supply unit requirements. Plug in all the hardware you think you might have in 2 or 3 years (extra drives, bigger or 2nd video card, more RAM, etc.). Be sure to read and heed the notes at the bottom of the page. To ensure the supply has adequate head room for stress free operation and future demands, I recommend the following settings:

CPU Utilization (TDP) - 100%

Capacitor Aging - 30%

System Load 100%

Motherboard - High End Desktop (optional but recommended)

Research your video card and pay particular attention to the power supply requirements for your card listed on your video card maker's website. If not listed, check a comparable card (same graphics engine and RAM) from a different maker. The key specifications, in order of importance are:

Current (amperage or amps) on the +12V rail,

Efficiency,

Total wattage.

Then look for power supply brands listed under the "Good" column of PC Mechanic's PSU Reference List. Ensure the supplied amperage on the +12V rails of your chosen PSU meets the requirements of your video card. Don't try to save a few dollars by getting a cheap supply. And don't count on supplies that come included with a case. They are often underrated, budget or poor quality models "tossed in" to make the case sale. Digital electronics, including CPUs, RAM, and today's advanced graphics cards, need clean, stable power. A good, well chosen supply will provide years of service and upgrade wiggle room. I strongly recommend you pick a supply with an efficiency rating equal to, or greater than 80%. Look for the 80 Plus - EnergyStar Compliant label. And don't forget to budget for a good UPS with AVR (automatic voltage regulation), as surge and spike protectors are inadequate.
Note: There is often some confusion over buying too big of a supply. It is important to remember that electronics draw from their power supplies what they need and not what the supply is capable of delivering. That is, if the motherboard plus the RAM, drives, fans, and graphics card all need 360 watts of power, they will only consume 360 watts regardless if the power supply is a 400W, 650W or a 1000W supply. And the power drawn from the wall outlet will also only be 360W (plus up to 30% more for PSU inefficiencies). So there is no risk of damage from using too big of a supply, except to your budget. That said, if the calculator says you need a 400 watt supply, a quality 400 watt supply will work, but note it will be working near its peak capacity full time. This will likely cause its internal fan(s) to spin at full speed, and maximum loudness. A 500 - 600 watt PSU will be under less strain, and not require the fans to run at full speeds.
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thesssfactor · May 27, 2010

i think i need at least 6gb of ram because on my current amd processor (with 2gb of ram) lags like hell, i watch tv while playing mmos like wow and runescape

i know its not the internet its the comp because i have a 1000 mbps card in it.

that's why i was thinking 8gb might help the issue and a cpu with 12mb of l2 cache might fix the issue too.

On the power supply, I randomly picked one. I dont know a thing about what differs one psu from another one.

I'll read the article above, maybe that might help... but if you can help me it would be most proffered

pclover · May 27, 2010

thesssfactor said: ↑

i think i need at least 6gb of ram because on my current amd processor (with 2gb of ram) lags like hell, i watch tv while playing mmos like wow and runescape

i know its not the internet its the comp because i have a 1000 mbps card in it.

that's why i was thinking 8gb might help the issue and a cpu with 12mb of l2 cache might fix the issue too.

On the power supply, I randomly picked one. I dont know a thing about what differs one psu from another one.

I'll read the article above, maybe that might help... but if you can help me it would be most proffered
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How old is the computer? Do you do system maintenance like De fragment Etc. What video card does it have?

collinsl · May 28, 2010

thesssfactor said: ↑

i think i need at least 6gb of ram because on my current amd processor (with 2gb of ram) lags like hell, i watch tv while playing mmos like wow and runescape

i know its not the internet its the comp because i have a 1000 mbps card in it.

that's why i was thinking 8gb might help the issue and a cpu with 12mb of l2 cache might fix the issue too.

On the power supply, I randomly picked one. I dont know a thing about what differs one psu from another one.

I'll read the article above, maybe that might help... but if you can help me it would be most proffered
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The basic essence of the post above is:

Use this site to find out how much power you need (expressed in watts): http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Make sure you add about 150W onto the figure provided to make sure your PSU can cope with later expansions. Also, I recommend setting the motherboard to high end desktop, TDP to 100%, system load to 100% and capacitor ageing to at least 30%

Use this site to determine a reputable brand because if you do not get a reputable brand you are much more likely to loose the whole computer if it fails: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=208143

Bear in mind the main factor you are looking for is the amps figure on the +12V rail. This should be high, but conversely the other amperage figures should not be too low.

Just for reference: watts = amps * volts, so wattage is a good indicator, it's just that the +12V rail should have a lot of amps.

thesssfactor · May 29, 2010

comp is like 3 or 4 years old. i defrag once every 6 months. video card blows 256mb, im thinking it might be both the out dated cpu and video card.

and on the psu thank you for the info

pclover · May 29, 2010

thesssfactor said: ↑

comp is like 3 or 4 years old. i defrag once every 6 months. video card blows 256mb, im thinking it might be both the out dated cpu and video card.

and on the psu thank you for the info
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Could you post the full specs of the system?

augiedoggie · May 29, 2010

Ya, I'd lose 4GB of the RAM too and invest in a better video card and/or power supply.

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V or better. (Depends on video card choice)

For the video card, get something like this at least, as your choice is somewhat wimpy by today's standards:

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB

Also, I think your choice of CPU is overkill. Save a $100 and put the money into the above:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor

I've got an Intel C2Q Q6600 @2.4GHz and this thing can't be choked!

Just some random thoughts to muddy the waters a bit.

thesssfactor · Jun 1, 2010

this is my final product what do u think? Run great or no?

Processor intel core 2 q9550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041 278.99 0 0 278.99 278.99

vid card xfx pvt95gzafg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150322 64.99 54.99 5.99 70.98 60.98

memory gskill ripjaws 4gb 2*2gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303 109.99 0 0 109.99 109.99

mobo gibabyte ga-ep43t-usb3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128428 89.99 0 7.56 97.55 97.55

case APEX SK-503-C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154102 29.99 0 0 29.99 29.99

harddrive western cabiar black 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284 99.99 0 0 99.99 99.99

power supply CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004 79.99 69.99 5.99 85.98 75.98

TheRealGEEK · Jun 1, 2010

For the price of the Q9550, I would look into a P55 system

TheRealGEEK · Jun 1, 2010

Processor
Motherboard

TheRealGEEK · Jun 1, 2010

Oh and I almost forgot, I'd get this card because of SLi support.

Video Cardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130395&cm_re=evga_9500gt-_-14-130-395-_-Product
Case

This is a better Bang for the Buck

Burrell · Jun 1, 2010

I doubt you would ever want to SLI that card, even if you did, you can't, bacause your MB only supports Corssfire

collinsl · Jun 1, 2010

Burrell said: ↑

I doubt you would ever want to SLI that card, even if you did, you can't, bacause your MB only supports Corssfire
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That, and, speaking as someone who has SLI'd in the past, it really isn't that good. I found SLI to be troublesome and it actually limited performance on the one game I wanted it to increase.

pclover · Jun 1, 2010

A 9500gt is a major bottleneck. Especially for gaming.

9500gt SLI is a total waste.

I would suggest a GTS 250

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130513

Maybe look into the Corsair TX650W and TX750W PSU's as you get more for not much more money.

I agree with geek about maybe an I7 setup for that price.

Also you forgot a dvd/cd drive and and OS.

TheRealGEEK · Jun 1, 2010

I'd look into an HX series of corsiar PSUs. They're Modular.

TheRealGEEK · Jun 1, 2010

Look into this MOBO

Burrell · Jun 2, 2010

TheRealGEEK said: ↑

I'd look into an HX series of corsiar PSUs. They're Modular.
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Yes, but they cost a ******* bomb! I think the money would be much better spent on a better video card.

TheRealGEEK · Jun 2, 2010

How high level of games will you be playing?:confused

thesssfactor · Nov 12, 2010

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