trying to download ubuntu

i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question , but i have to start somewhere. i've been wanting to see what linux/open sourse was all about so i went to the unutu site and created a live disc per their instructions. when i try to run the disc my computer does'nt "see" it, i'm prompted to insert disc. when i right click on the d/drive and click open the ubuntu iso file opens and displays all the sub files, so i'm pretty sure i burned the cd right. my computer is dell dim4600c and it's running windows xp with sp3. any ideas or thoughts will be most appreciated. tia

 

:confused How are you trying to 'run' this disk? Are you re-booting the machine and that's when it prompts you to insert a disk? If so, it sounds like the burn process didn't work quite right. What method(program and process) did you use to burn? Not that I know what I'm doing with Linux, but I had no troubles with getting a live CD to work. Now if I can just remember the process.

 

Some info here
Should be F2 for your Dell at boot, to enter BIOS to change the boot sequence.

This thread will probably get moved to Linux support forum. So keep a look out for it.
Cheers.

 

Thread moved to the Linux forum.

 

thanks for the replies. the program i used to burn the cd is infrarecord, this was suggested by the ubuntu site. the way the set up instructions read, once i successfully burn the cd all i need to do is put it in the player and "viola". if i have to reset the boot sequence, will i have to reset it (back) after i'm done using the ubuntu program. i don't have time to try anything right now but will give all the suggestions a try later.

p.s. collins, you really do look like a gestapo/ss guy, you must be a republican:-D

 

Nope, not at all. I am just a fan of 'Allo 'Allo is all.

Please post back the results of your tests.

 

Once you're done using the live CD, you can enter BIOS and hit the key to" Setup Defaults". If you feel you may want to experiment more with the Ubuntu CD later, then leave the CD/DVD ROM to #1 in boot priority
Cheers..

 

Thanks Halo, excellent reminder(for this cloudy brain) and sure saved a lot of typing.

As sikvik says, you may want to experiment with the Ubuntu CD more than once(most likely). So you probably shouldn't change the boot sequence back, just let it stay with the CD/DVD drive being first in the boot sequence.

If there is no disk in the drive when the system is booted/re-booted then it will just move on to the next drive in the boot sequence which hopefully you have set to be the hard drive. If there is a disk in the drive(during boot/re-boot) but it isn't bootable(a data disk, unformated, etc.) that's when you get prompted to insert a disk.

I'm with collinsl, let us know how it goes.

 

did'nt mean to take so long getting back . i have tried all your suggestions and have made some progress. imgburn seems to be a much better program than the one i first tried. it burned the disc just fine as far as i can tell.also reset boot sequence to boot from cd drive first. i should have saved the download/burn log but i lost it when i re-booted my computer. any how , the cd will not run and the log entry says "no reference point ". i half way suspect a problem with the cd player itself but i haven't dug into that yet. any thoughts. tia

p.s. collins, the republican comment was just a bad attempt at a joke

 

i've been trying to burn another cd and the same thing is happening as with the ubuntu cd. i do have the log for this and have copied it below


I 09:13:04 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!
I 09:13:04 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 09:13:04 Total Physical Memory: 522,224 KB - Available: 118,100 KB
I 09:13:04 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:13:04 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:13:04 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (D (ATA)
I 09:13:04 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW!
I 09:14:52 Operation Started!
I 09:14:52 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\My Documents\Downloads\avg_arl_cd_en_90_100429.iso
I 09:14:52 Source File Sectors: 39,375 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:14:52 Source File Size: 80,640,000 bytes
I 09:14:52 Source File Volume Identifier: CDROM
I 09:14:52 Source File Application Identifier: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM
I 09:14:52 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet
I 09:14:52 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (D (ATA)
I 09:14:52 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 10x)
I 09:14:52 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844
I 09:14:52 Write Mode: CD
I 09:14:52 Write Type: SAO
I 09:14:52 Write Speed: MAX
I 09:14:52 Lock Volume: Yes
I 09:14:52 Test Mode: No
I 09:14:52 OPC: No
I 09:14:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 09:14:52 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x)
I 09:14:52 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 09:14:54 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:15:27 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 39374)
I 09:15:27 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 39374)
I 09:16:10 Synchronising Cache...
I 09:16:18 Exporting Graph Data...
I 09:16:18 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_RW-DVD_GCC-4241N_A100_SUNDAY-JUNE-06-2010_9-14_AM_97m26s66f_MAX.ibg
I 09:16:18 Export Successfully Completed!
I 09:16:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:26
I 09:16:18 Average Write Rate: 1,831 KB/s (12.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,948 KB/s (13.0x)
I 09:16:18 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 09:17:21 Device Ready!
I 09:17:27 Operation Started!
I 09:17:27 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (D (ATA)
I 09:17:27 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f)
I 09:17:27 Image File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\My Documents\Downloads\avg_arl_cd_en_90_100429.iso
I 09:17:27 Image File Sectors: 39,375 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:17:27 Image File Size: 80,640,000 bytes
I 09:17:27 Image File Volume Identifier: CDROM
I 09:17:27 Image File Application Identifier: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM
I 09:17:27 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet
I 09:17:27 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 09:17:27 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 39374)
I 09:17:27 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 39374)
W 09:18:52 Failed to Read Sector 23733 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:18:52 Sector 23733 maps to File: \isolinux\initrd.lzm
E 09:22:45 Failed to Read Sector 23733 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
E 09:22:45 Sector 23733 maps to File: \isolinux\initrd.lzm
E 09:22:45 Failed to Verify Sectors!
I 09:22:45 Exporting Graph Data...
I 09:22:45 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_RW-DVD_GCC-4241N_A100_SUNDAY-JUNE-06-2010_9-14_AM_97m26s66f_MAX.ibg
I 09:22:45 Export Successfully Completed!
E 09:22:45 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:05:17
I 09:22:45 Average Verify Rate: 149 KB/s (1.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 615 KB/s (4.1x)

 

i've been trying to figure this out and i hate to give up on it, although i may go ahead and order the live cd just in case. my cd player will play dvd's and some cd's. actually my computer crapped out last week due to some malware/virus and i down loaded/burned the avast av program to a cd on another computer and it opened and played just fine on my machine. earlier today i tried down loading and burning another av program to use as a recovery back-up disc and every thing worked fine up until a verification towards the end of the process. the disc would eject and i would get a pop-up sayiing" reference not found and that this problem was common with slim line and laptop machines". does this make any sense. tia:confused

 

Try burning at the slowest speed

 

+1

I've always got a good burn @ X1 to X4 speeds, just do something else while it burns. I use ImgBurn.

 

The download could be corrupted. I have had to redownload sometimes.

 

i tried burning at slower speeds and now i get a pop-up that says there isn't enough room on the cd. the cd's i'm using are 52x 700mb (that's all that wal-mart had) and the ubuntu file is 699mb+. what does being a slim-line or lap top have to do with any of this. tia

 

Hmm, does it say 700MB and/or 80 Minute on the discs themselves? The ISO is incredibly close in time, 79:36 out of 80:00 Check a clean CD with My Computer, right-click the drive and choose Properties. and see if it says 702MB and 736, 958, 464 bytes. I have a feeling these Wal-Mart things might be mislabeled at best from 650MB.

 

i did a fresh download of ubuntu and retried burning process. failed again:banghead. i did save the log


I 09:13:04 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!
I 09:13:04 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 09:13:04 Total Physical Memory: 522,224 KB - Available: 118,100 KB
I 09:13:04 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:13:04 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:13:04 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (D (ATA)
I 09:13:04 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW!
I 09:14:52 Operation Started!
I 09:14:52 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\My Documents\Downloads\avg_arl_cd_en_90_100429.iso
I 09:14:52 Source File Sectors: 39,375 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:14:52 Source File Size: 80,640,000 bytes
I 09:14:52 Source File Volume Identifier: CDROM
I 09:14:52 Source File Application Identifier: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM
I 09:14:52 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet
I 09:14:52 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (D (ATA)
I 09:14:52 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 10x)
I 09:14:52 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844
I 09:14:52 Write Mode: CD
I 09:14:52 Write Type: SAO
I 09:14:52 Write Speed: MAX
I 09:14:52 Lock Volume: Yes
I 09:14:52 Test Mode: No
I 09:14:52 OPC: No
I 09:14:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 09:14:52 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x)
I 09:14:52 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 09:14:54 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:15:27 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 39374)
I 09:15:27 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 39374)
I 09:16:10 Synchronising Cache...
I 09:16:18 Exporting Graph Data...
I 09:16:18 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_RW-DVD_GCC-4241N_A100_SUNDAY-JUNE-06-2010_9-14_AM_97m26s66f_MAX.ibg
I 09:16:18 Export Successfully Completed!
I 09:16:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:26
I 09:16:18 Average Write Rate: 1,831 KB/s (12.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,948 KB/s (13.0x)
I 09:16:18 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 09:17:21 Device Ready!
I 09:17:27 Operation Started!
I 09:17:27 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (D (ATA)
I 09:17:27 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f)
I 09:17:27 Image File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\My Documents\Downloads\avg_arl_cd_en_90_100429.iso
I 09:17:27 Image File Sectors: 39,375 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:17:27 Image File Size: 80,640,000 bytes
I 09:17:27 Image File Volume Identifier: CDROM
I 09:17:27 Image File Application Identifier: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM
I 09:17:27 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 (Bootable), Joliet
I 09:17:27 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 09:17:27 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 39374)
I 09:17:27 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 39374)
W 09:18:52 Failed to Read Sector 23733 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:18:52 Sector 23733 maps to File: \isolinux\initrd.lzm
E 09:22:45 Failed to Read Sector 23733 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
E 09:22:45 Sector 23733 maps to File: \isolinux\initrd.lzm
E 09:22:45 Failed to Verify Sectors!
I 09:22:45 Exporting Graph Data...
I 09:22:45 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\randy thurman.NEWCOMPUTER.001\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_RW-DVD_GCC-4241N_A100_SUNDAY-JUNE-06-2010_9-14_AM_97m26s66f_MAX.ibg
I 09:22:45 Export Successfully Completed!
E 09:22:45 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:05:17
I 09:22:45 Average Verify Rate: 149 KB/s (1.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 615 KB/s (4.1x)

 

auggiedoggie, i did as you suggested and it seems as though the discs are 700mb 80 min. while checking this out i looked under the other tabs and ended up retrying the burn process using the available windows software(speed 4x)and it seemed to work as far as i can tell. the problem now is that windows ie can't open and run the disc.:confused

 

nm, new info to digest.

 

Change BIOS to boot from CD and see what happens. If it burnt correctly then you'll have a LiveCD to play with. Good luck.

EDIT: I don't think Windows has the capability to burn ISO's though I could be wrong.

 

halo, sorry for the mix-up but the problem is the exact same for both files. auggie,here is the url http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download, it is the same one that halo refers to in his last post.going to try your last suggestion and change bios and reboot.

 

OK, that's the right page. Burn that with ImgBurn and boot to the CD, if that doesn't work then then I'm completely lost. :confused

How the heck did you burn AVG instead?

 

auggie, i was trying to burn a different iso file to make sure it wasn't the ubuntu file itself that was the problem. i saved them both on my desk top and clicked on the wrong one when i copied it to my post.i went to the imgburn site help forum and posted my problem and the burn log. their answer was to up date my firmware, clean my disc player, use a decent cd and get a new cd player.wtf:banghead i've spent way to much time on this so i'll probably just send for a live cd as was suggested earlier in this thread. thanks to all for the help

 

Aah OK, now I see why the AVG, that threw me for a loop.:-D Yup on their answers, if everything's OK then it should work! :confused Oh well, enjoy Ubuntu when you get the disk.

 

thanks guys, i'm going to get one of my son's friends to burn the ubuntu disc for me. it might take a day or two to get it done . will check back then .

 

Why not take this approach?

 

Or go to your local Borders/Waldenbooks and pick up a Linux User, Linux Pro, Linux Developer, or Ubuntu User magazine with a 10.04 distro on the included disk. The distros included on the disk are listed right on the cover; find a magazine with the required distro...10.04 and 9.10 are very common and easy to find in Linux mags.

 

And if indeed your CD is "sick", you could dig into the possibility of an USB install. Lynx thus easily installed on my EeePc (and runs well).