temps way too high

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by eatmytrance, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. eatmytrance

    eatmytrance Private E-2

    heres what speedfan has to say about my temps--

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    I am wondering if this is too high? (flame symbols on pic)
    I am running:

    xp servicepack3
    FOXCONN M61PMV FAB 1.0
    2,60 gigahertz AMD Athlon X4 620
    3072 Megabytes ram
    WDC WD6401AALS-00J7B1 [Hard drive] (640,13 GB)
    leadtek px8800gt with zalmon cooler

    I think it is strange if temps are too high as I bought the motherboard/cpu as a bundle and the graphix card has a really effective fan (aparantly)

    the case is 16x15x7 inch, maybe it is too small for what i have running?
    I took the front panel off and that didn't seem to make any difference.

    Also everything is factory set, i haven't wondered into the realms of overclocking yet..

    I'm sure this sort of question has popped up but I have searched the forum and was unable to find a specific thread to my problem.

    My own diagnosis is that the case is too small but There could be something more indepth going on as, like i said above the case has been opened and no difference was noted by speedfan (i was even blowing in it to disperce the hot air!)

    If anyone could help that'd be great.
    Cheers
     
  2. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    The GForce series of Nvidia are notorious for running hot, I am running twin GTX470s and under load they are constant at 85c so 58c is not a problem.

    I have had a look around but can not find any reviews that give temps but i suspect your card is rated at a max of 100c so i would not worry.
     
  3. eatmytrance

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    Thanks,
    I should add that the screenshot was taken at minimal cpu usage, also there are more than one flame symbol which indicates that more than one bits of hardware are overheating?
    (sorry about the lack of technical terms)
     
  4. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    There could be a problem with the air flow, how many fans are in the case?

    The idea is to bring cool air in the front of the case with the fan placed as low as it can be, then take the hot air out of the back with the fan placed as high as possible.

    Do you know what the case you have is (name/ model) ?
     
  5. eatmytrance

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    only fans are connected to the cpu and graphics card and power supply
    case serial no: GEL 009829, typed it into google but couldnt find it

    maybe i should add more fans then, I thought the fans i had allready would be sufficiant?

    cheers for your help
     
  6. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    You definitely need at least two fans that are independent from any hardware and as i stated one at the front bringing air in and one at the back taking air out.

    If you start gaming or doing any heavy graphics you risk doing damage to your CPU or GPU because they will heat up very quickly and there will be no where for the heat to go.
     
  7. eatmytrance

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    thanks alot for your help mate ;)
    will get on it right away
    is it worth directing one of the fans at my cpu?
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2010
  8. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    Could you post attach a few pics of your case the insides, especially the front and back areas, plus mention if it looks like their are spaces for case fans, in front, back or sides? or any other markings or serials on the case?

    Where is the case located? is it inside a desk space, on the floor, on the desktop?

    Is your room temp kinda warm? ambient room temps can highten PC temps for the reason Bill mentions no airflow to the inside of the case.
     
  9. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Ya, you've got a quad in there sweating away as the Zalmann can only do so much with no airflow but what bugs me more is that there's no change in temps with the side open and with a fan on it? At idle, you should be around 40C. That would lead me to believe that the cooler doesn't have a good thermal contact with the CPU and perhaps this should be redone. Is this your first build?
     
  10. eatmytrance

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    (Please excuse debris on floor rolleyes )
     
  11. eatmytrance

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    Obviously it's summer time and we've been having a heat wave so this should be as hot as it will get.

    after around midday no sunlight shines on the room it's in, it is under a desk but there is alot of space for air movement and there is even a air vent close by.

    Def enough space for a fan on the front, not so sure about the back but i could cut a hole in the side
    cheers
     
  12. eatmytrance

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    Yes this is my first build, I got the graphix card of ebay second hand. The guy assured me it was in excelent condition but after installing it I noticed a heavy wuring sound coming from the fan until i tapped it once and it settled down.
    I took the fan off and it seems there was a fair dose of thermal paste but maybe i should re-aply to be sure?
    cheers
     
  13. eatmytrance

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    forgot to mention that im running an m-audio audiophile 2496 soundcard
     
  14. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    OK, so you have a stock AMD CPU fan on there instead of the Zalman I thought you had you mentioned, a single slot video card which will throw a lot of heat into the case and the sound card which has really no bearing on the heat.

    AMD ships it's CPU heatsinks with a thermal pad which should be good enough unless you added some extra for good measure? More is not better in this case, same goes for the video card. The size of a long grain of rice is max. What is your room temp, just so we know. Oh, if you do reapply the compound, clean the old stuff off first with %70 isopropyl alcohol or highr using one of these lint-free microfiber cloths until they're shiny.

    As to fans, I can't see where you could put a fan in front but if you can then do it along with the rear fan, as large as fits, probably 120mm. See what happens after you install these first two before starting to cut holes. Don't get the $2 fans either, spend $6 each as they'll last longer and usually be quieter.

    Your CPU temps are way too high as the 40C I mentioned could be less than 30C at 70F. I think that's it for now.
     
  15. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Had to ask as I dont know where you are from and some countries like mine dont have very hot summers sadly so temps are variable at times.

    I agree with Augie here in that you have space for a 120mm fan in the back, cannot see the front properly but it looks like it too (pic maybe helpful taken from the back side of the HDD to the front of the case), and have the front fan sucking air in and the back fan expelling air out of the back, this will definatly cool both your CPU and GFX card.

    Also I can see build up of dust on the components so get a very soft brush and a some canned air and blow/brush the dust off the components as dust = heat. Also brush of the dust build up on the CPU fan fins as this slows and reduces the effectiveness of the CPU fan, again = heat.

    if you can use cable ties to move the mass of cables from hovering over the CPU heatsink and fan as this will allow better airflow, especially with the new case fans.
     
  16. sexyandy81

    sexyandy81 MajorGeek

    I would suggest putting a fan on the back of the tower and that will keep the tower cool than what you are running at the moment. They are not that expensive to buy in shops and you can fit it yourself.

    Hope this helps.
     
  17. eatmytrance

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    I am absolutely skint til next month unfortunately. I have 2 old cpu fans (1x 2inch and 1x 2.5inch) that were given to me by a friend, is there a way i can connect them to my power supply? they have 3 holes and are designed to sit on pins that are connected to the motherboard so won't directly fit onto any of the connectors coming off my power supply

    btw the zalmon cooler i was talking about is attached to the video card
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2010
  18. sexyandy81

    sexyandy81 MajorGeek

    eatmytrance: I was thinking something more like this http://www.xoxide.com/quadledgreen.html 120mm case fan at the back of your tower which should keep the comp running cooler than you are now.
     
  19. eatmytrance

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    thanks mate, like i said though i'm skint until the end of the month, is there any way I could hook up the spare CPU fans i've got until I can afford the one you recommend?
     
  20. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    If the fans you have don't have the same adapters as your Mobo the only way to do it for a temporary solution is to use a 12 volt power supply or adapter to power them directly, i used this method when my PC was built into my desk and i needed to pull the warm air out of the desk.
     

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