Suggestions to backup T-bird on win7 ?

Discussion in 'Software' started by ziggie, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    I need help with a good scenario that works!!

    1) I have xp sp3 running oe6 and works great.

    2) I want to save/backup my OE6 mail to use it in win 7 running TBird mail.

    My plans are to format the drive and install win 7 home premium and Thunderbird for my email.
     
  2. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Patience grasshopper - expecting help within 4 hours in an all volunteer forum is a bit much.

    I assume you want to import all your OE emails into Thunderbird.
    Your subject line says backup T-bird while your post says save/backup my OE6
    If that is correct, here is an article describing what to do.
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/Import_from_Outlook_Express
     
  3. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    Thx plodr but i'm not sure I explained what I want to do:

    Since I'll be installing Win 7 and it doesn't have a email client/program, i'm wanting to save my old OE6 mail so I can import them into Win 7 using Tbird as the new email client...!!




     
  4. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I hope plodr or others can help you with backing up OE6 emails in a format that can be imported to TBird later.

    *****
    As a backup procedure, you could install TBird on the XP computer and import all your Oe6 settings/emails into Tbird as in the link plodr gave you. Then use MozBackup to save your settings to a backup file (make sure you check all the options for saving a copy of your actual emails).
    Save the backup file on a CD or USB drive so you have it later.
    Then when you install Win 7, you can use MozBackup to restore the settings from the backup file to a new installation of Tbird.

    A bit complicated when I read it back but it should work. I'm sure there is a way to save OE6 emails and settings directly to some sort of backup file so think of this as just a possible alternative method.
     
  5. paramonks

    paramonks Corporal

    Sach2 and Plodr have you on the right track, so combine their posts and you are on your way.

    Install Thunderbird on your machine before you format for the new install of Win7, then read the URL which Plodr gave on the instructions on how to import your identity from Outlook Express into Thunderbird along with all your existing messages.

    Then you will need to go back to Sach2 instructions and make a backup of Thunderbird on an external disc or zippy or cd - or anywhere but on the drive you plan to format for the install of Win7

    Then proceed with your installation of Win7. From previous experience I have found that it isn't essential to format before you install Win7, but it's your choice.

    Once you have everything up and running after the fresh install of Win7 and do keep in mind you will have to reinstall every program you have again. Then install Thunderbird again and reclaim your email files that you safely stored away earlier.

    Sounds complicated, but it is not, just requires several steps to work through.
     
  6. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    In reading the link you provided, it mentioned ""If you are running Windows 7 you may not be able to install Outlook Express.""
    Has anyone been able to install OE6 into Win7 ??


     
  7. mcsmc

    mcsmc MajorGeek

    Who would WANT to? Thunderbird rivals Outlook, let alone OE. Also, remember there are a ton of free addons for Thunderbird.

    Personally, I don't use offline email clients and just stick to Gmail (or GoogleMail, now... whatever). I've used Thunderbird in the past, though, and found it to be outstanding when I did need/use an offline email client.
     
  8. paramonks

    paramonks Corporal

    I did read that on the link, but you did say you were going to change to Thunderbird for email, so does it really matter? :confused all the files will be wiped when you install Win 7, and nope I've not tried OE6 with Win 7 I upgraded my MS Office programs to 2007 and they work well.
     
  9. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

    OE can not be installed in Windows 7 or Windows Vista. The OE era came to an end with Windows XP. For many years, OE and IE (Internet Explorer) were bundled; so, users had the same version of OE as IE. That stopped with IE/OE 6. Thereafter, with IE updates to IE7 or IE8, OE remained at version 6.

    Windows Mail, the email client with Windows Vista, is very similar to OE. But, Windows Mail only comes with Windows Vista.

    As you know now, Windows 7 does not come with a bundled email client. But, WLM (Windows Live Mail) is a free download from Microsoft and can be installed with Windows XP/Vista/7.
     
  10. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    Thx man and a special THX for serving;

    I realize Tbird would be a better choice and intend on using it But;

    I'm wanting to preserve my OE6 mail from by XP pro --- to the new installation of Win 7 home premium !!


     
  11. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    Maybe it would be a better idea to install/import my OE6 to windows live mail and export it to a backup device AND then re-install it to my new Win7 OS ??



     
  12. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

    I was just thinking the same.
     
  13. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    Looks like I have a new problem surfacing with Windows Live, I have xp pro in 32 bit and my new Win 7 OS will be 64bit.....da!!!

    Microsoft explorer site said this:

    What operating system do I need to install Windows Live Essentials 2011?

    All of the Windows Live Essentials programs will run only on Windows 7 (32-bit or 64-bit editions), Windows Vista (32-bit or 64-bit editions) with Service Pack 2 (SP2) and the Platform Update for Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 R2, or Windows Server 2008 with SP2 and the Platform Update for Windows Server 2008.

    We apologize for any inconvenience. If you're using Windows XP, we recommend that you upgrade to Windows 7.

    Any ideas??



     
  14. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

  15. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    1. OE will not run in Windows 7
    2. Windows Live Mail will not run in XP

    Thunderbird, as far as I am aware WILL run in XP and Windows 7.
    Import your OE mail into T-bird installed in XP, then export your email to an external hard drive for safe keeping.
    Open T-bird in Windows 7 and import the email from the external hard drive.
     
  16. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

  17. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    Will do. I'll post back results........Thx again to all.


     
  18. sach2

    sach2 Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The more I read the more I think it would be wise to do the thunderbird way as a secondary copy of your files. That way if anything goes wrong importing your files from Outlook Express to Live Mail you have another copy. If everything goes OK going from Outlook to Windows Live Mail you can just discard the Thunderbird backup file.


    The Thunderbird backup is not difficult but several steps as paramonks said. You can still use OE6 as your default email client on XP until you upgrade to Win7 (You are just installing TB so it can copy all your files and settings) I know you can export without using Mozbackup but I have always had good results with that program and think it is reliable and easy to use.

    Install TB on XP. (Let it import all your messages and settings from OE)
    Check that TB now has all your saved emails available.
    Install Mozbackup.
    Run Mozbackup and Backup your new Thunderbird profile that includes all your old OE6 emails and settings.
    You will end up with a single file (.pcv type) that you will save to external flash drive or CD.
    Then if you install TB on Win7 you can use Mozbackup to import all your old emails and settings.
    If decide not to use TB you just discard the .pcv file.

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    As to going from OE to Live Mail:
    Here I see two different ways to go from OE6 to Windows Live but they are different and I can't say which is best. Maybe make both types of copies of your files just in case. It definitely couldn't hurt to copy the whole Outlook folder to external drive as another possible backup before formatting.
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/...ssages-into-Windows-Mail-from-Outlook-Express
    http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/blog/outlook-express-and-windows-live-mail-windows-7/

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  19. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

    Yes, I'd do that; this is, back up the .dbx files that contain the email messages. Good instructions are here: http://www.oemailrecovery.com/faq-manual-backup-dbx-file.html
     
  20. ziggie

    ziggie Private E-2

    After many yrs of using the free programs out here (some very good but mostly there providing this software to later get us to buy it's our system and it works most of the time and I do).

    I used AVG free for yrs and 'now' I buy the virus software :)

    Anyhow, (for the time being) ;

    I'm going to use a old XP home dell (separate computer) for all emails.... until I can work this out.

    I have (paid version) of Office outlook 2007 for my Iphone but never use it for email, just backup of the phone.

    I've basically trust Mozilla ----- that's why I wan to use T-birds as my email client.

    Any and all comments needed!!!
     
  21. usafveteran

    usafveteran MajorGeek

    What does this have to do with this discussion?

    So, you don't trust Microsoft email clients?

    Seems like your original question has been adequately commented on. Do you have any specific points relating to it that you want to pursue further?
     

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