Help with my build please

Definatly get the gigabyte board, 1600Mhz ram will work on it out the box.

About aftermarket coolers, Newegg has a limted choice but this would handle your cpu with headroom to overclock and keep good temps.

Do you plan on over clocking? You would gain significant performance increases for no cost and 30 minutes work?

And the 460's for less are not "crippled" versions, they are just the 786mb ones as aposed to the 1GB versions, which is why they cost less, but the small extra cost for a full fat one is easily justified by the performance increase.

 

ok so we got the case and GPU figured out and now it's a debate with the MOBO haha. hmm I will probably think about this one for a bit. but thanks so far

 

I still maintain that if you get that Gigabyte motherboard you won't be able to use 1600 RAM, only 1333. I haven't looked yet, but there's likely Gigabyte motherboards that support 1600 RAM if you want to go with Gigabyte.

I almost hope you end up going with a Gigabyte board so you can let me know if you have any issues with it... since I'm going to be getting a new motherboard soon.:-D

 

Burrell
"You have to understand that that MB would not support 1600Mhz with all cpu's, only those with a 200Mhz FSB stock. That motherboard has 3 multipliers, 5.33, 6.665 and 8. so 200Mhz x by 8 being 1600. So before he chose his cpu i couldn't say whether it would work or not. So yes, the ram he selected with the MB will work, but i would chose this MB instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128416"

How do you know if my processor has a 200Mhz FSB stock? and in this quote are you saying the ram will work in the ASUS or in the linked MB?

Burrell
"Do you plan on over clocking? You would gain significant performance increases for no cost and 30 minutes work?"

I would like to do this but only if someone can talk me through it. The only reason I don't want to is because I never have and don't want to mess anything up. Also does that void warranties?

mcsmc
"I almost hope you end up going with a Gigabyte board so you can let me know if you have any issues with it... since I'm going to be getting a new motherboard soon."

Thanks, just thanks. Haha :-D just kidding. Yeah i'm still thinking about it as I had more questions asked above.

 

Also, to confuse the situation more, haha, another MOBO was brought in for consideration. An MSI MB. what do you think? and what do you think about the brand? is this too much of a downgrade?
and this ASUS vs. Gigabyte is hard. every forum i look at it is literally about 50/50 in opinions. some say gigabyte is more stable and has less problems while others say ASUS outperforms gigabyte. hmm haha

 

I've had issues with several MSI products in the past. I'm not saying they're necessarily bad, just in MY experience I wouldn't buy anything manufactured by MSI.

 

Here's the most recent article on component returns as collated by a French online supplier, it's probably the most honest report you'll find regarding computer hardware reliability.

 

well from that article it looks like they are very close as far as return percentages go. Maybe i didn't read closely enough but that didn't say failure rates. But anyway they are less then a percent difference so i guess in my opinion it doesn't really matter. Just the cost and performance matters because those percentages are so close why even through that into the debate?

maybe I'm naive or not right but any opinions?

 

Well, if you look at it strictly as a percentage, one percent doesn't really matter. However, if you think about the actual numbers, it matters. One percent is one in every one hundred. So, out of every hundred people that buy the product, it matters whether 1, 2, 3, or 4 end up being DOA (I think).

Gigabyte seemed higher at 3.something percent (if I remember the article correctly)... didn't read the whole thing, just skimmed.

 

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7821/66756911.png

 

so on average gigabyte has 16 less returned then ASUS for every 10,000. yeah that's not the percentage but the difference is more what i'm looking at. MSI had 9 more and 5 less then ASUS. I think these are very very close but that is my opinion. so i guess i'm wanting to know which one performs better and is it worth the price difference? I guess that's just me, and again i could be wrong. what do you think?

 

Yeah the percentage shows that there is VERY little difference between the boards, but Gigabyte are ahead. This doesn't show board stability though as you cannot return a board just because it doesn't work "some" of the time, ie when it BSOD's.

If i was you i would get the Gigabyte MB, the 1600Mhz ram i posted earlier, the 1090T and put that under the corsair cooler which will allow you to overclock that little bit needed to get the ram operating at 1600Mhz, don't forget if you decide not to overclock you can simply run that ram at 1333Mhz with no issues.

If/when you get the system, just start a new thread in the overclocking forum and i will help you get a decent stable over clock, we should be able to hit 3.8Ghz with no issues.

 

alright thanks. and earlier it was mentioned that that ram would not work with that board but you said it is. if it isn't in that list on newegg, how do you know it will? is there a way to find out by looking at something else in the details?

 

Hi again, sorry for the late reply as said earlier i have a lot on at the moment.

I don't KNOW it will, no one can say it will. But there is a very high chance it will work, that chance increases if you put a small overclock on your processor and run the memory at it's rated speeds. (You won't need much of an OC to get it to 1600Mhz.)

If you want ram that is guaranteed to work, then chose one from the official Memory support list on the Gigabyte website.

 

I maintain that the newer technology motherboards with the DDR3 RAM are picky with each other. Only get a motherboard that LISTS SUPPORT FOR THE RAM YOU ARE GETTING.

High chances aren't worth it, in my opinion.

Overclocking your processor won't make a motherboard like RAM it normally doesn't.

 

Overclocking WOULD help with stability issues that may occur when operating ram at below its specified speed.

 

well the gigabyte one is already sold out. =/ I think they are really close and both have pros and cons so I think I will try the ASUS and maybe in another build go with a gigabyte so i can make my own opinion.

 

Fair enough, it comes with a decent warranty so yo should be ok.

Looks like you are good to go, what case did you decide on?

 

I chose the antec. figured it was best for me. good cooling, looks, size, and if it is a little hard to clean I can take the time.

also debating between this Asus monitor and another Asus monitor. One is essentially $40 cheaper with rebate and shipping but i like the adjustment ability of the other one and I'm sure i could get free shipping on it.
any recommendations on better monitors? doesn't have to be from newegg.

 

I just ordered the Antec Twelve Hundred myself. I don't think it will be hard to clean.

As to monitors, I don't have any experience with Asus, but their other products are good and those monitors look decent. Honestly, unless you'll be moving where you are relative to the screen, adjustment doesn't matter that much. I don't think it does, anyway.

 

I had the similar thought but I also thought with photo editing it would be nice to turn the screen 90 degrees

 

Judgment day is coming!!!! haha. I got my credit card and I'm about ready to buy and build. I just need one thing. What thermal paste or whatever should i buy? lol I don't know which one is better off newegg. Total damage is $1,515.97(-$75 with mail in rebates) so I hope it is worth it and I build it correctly. Thanks everyone for the help. If anyone knows some good promos let me know. Thanks!

BTW, I went with this monitor instead. A little bigger, web cam, and good ratings and warranty.

 

Arctic Silver 5 is the best thermal paste AFAIK. I have a few tubes of it, it's about $10/tube. It's working great with my i7 980X. Also, I LOVE the Antec 1200 case. It's a little bit extra work putting stuff together, but man it's a nice case. Sounds a little like a jet, though, with all the fans.:-D

 

Well it is shipped witch kind of sucks because i wanted to switch out the bd disk drive with one that supports light scribe but they never e-mailed me back. also forgot the thermal. gunna see if they can send me some and maybe exchange the disk drive idk yet ha. I'll let you know the final results. if i don't post a reply in about 2-3 weeks and it will be in my e-mail to remind me ha. Although i will probably be on asking help actually building it ha.

 

ok so i got everything(except the monitor). I am building it but had a few questions.

The biggest plug coming off the cable, is that the power to the motherboard? 95% sure it is but want to be 100% ha

The fans on the case have double sided plugs with one male end and one female end or 1 input and one output. Can you plug as many as you want together then plug it into the power supply or is there a limit or reccomended number?

The ribbon cable that came with the mobo and that is for HDDs, Will i need that since i have a sata HDD and blu ray drive?

I wan't to exchange my blu ray disk drive, can i put an old cd disk drive in jusst to get it running until my new one comes?

Lastly, is there anything other then the sata cable that should be plugged into the HDD? I thought there should be a power cable or something but it looks like the hard drives just come with a sata cable, i don't know ha

I know it's a few questions(probably easy/stupid questions) but i appreciate the responses. Thanks!

 

I edited your reply

 

ok, yeah i youtube the hard drive thing ha. Thanks so much. what is the third connector spot on the HDD for? i see the power and the data but what's the other for?

also the graphics card came with 2 of the same power cables. I plug both of them into the card and PSU I am assuming?

Also what is the mem OK button, turbo key switch, and core unlocker switch on the MOBO for?

and the RAM just put my 2 sticks in the first 2 frrom the proccesor?

On the MOBO it says, SATA1, SATA2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Just plug sata cables in in order? same with the USB?

Lastly, the MOBO came with these two plugs one says speakee, LED, and well basically the same things that are printed on the MOBO at the bottom(when mounted in case and looking near the bottom of the case) I'm thinking they are just extensions and used as needed?

 

and when installing RAM do you need to go with the color matching? like the 2 sticks I have put them in the same color channels so they will be one space apart? and do i use the ones closest to the CPU or does it matter with colors i use?

 

Same again.

 

thanks you guys. figured out ram ok is for resetting your ram if it fails or you use 2 different sticks that may not be compatible. yeah i found the Ram setup in the manual and which slots to use. Those manuals, they are filled with info. Who knew? haha Yeah i'll get a pic of the connectors in a min. in the mean time.

I should keep the turbo and core unlock off then?

 

Keep Core unlock off, and Turbo on. Unless you are OC'ing in which case turn turbo off.

 

here are some pics I don't know which one goes where and if they go vertical or horizontal. they are coming from the top of the case from inputs. Also are al those in that one picture usb plug ins? same 2.0 and everything or do they differ in some way? and I watched a you tube video and he was talking about a 4 pin CPU power supply. I see one on my MOBO but what are they used for?

Wouldn't work on here so i used tiny pic. I don't know how clear they are on there but my camera is 12 megapixel
Cables
Inputs
USB

 

a ha! I think i must have mis-read somewhere, yes those must be extensions for the power/reset/HDD LED etc.

The CPU power connection is vital, it gives power to the processor, it should be a 4/8 pin power connection located somewhere near the CPU.

And yes those 3 all look like USB headers.

 

What is a cha fan(chassis fan)? And the cables that say HD audio and AC 97 that come from the top of the case, where do i plug those in? i have a few pics.
Inputs(no flash)
Inputs (flash)
Cables

And the "extensions" I was talking about earlier. I don't know if that's what they are but can you identify them?
Here

 

what is the PWR_Fan input on the MOBO for?

And I see a white input on my MOBO and someone called it a CON or COM. What is that?

I have 1 leftover sata power cables and 4 leftover power cables that have a 4 pin and 2 pin connector on the end of them. didn't use any. Is that normal?

Found the 8pin connector by the processor(half covered by a plastic piece) and the only 8 pin connector from the PSU so that's good. thanks! But the power/reset/HDD LED how do i plug those in? did I have it right in that pic or should they be moved or switched to horizontal? and how do i know which way to face the writing? :confused That's the most challenging part so far :cry

 

I'm writing here because my message is too short to post.

 

The 4 pin and 2 pin connectors are for 4 pin and 6 pin connections, usually like your graphics card, which you already have power to, nothing to worry about if you have leftover power cables.

 

ok i got most of it figured out then. HDD/LED/RESET doesn't matter how they are plugged in, thanks for the pwr_fan and COM info, and the CHA fan info, the things i have are extensions, and the AC 97/HDaudio is one or the other that is plugged in. I just need to find out what my MOBO supports ha.

Think i'm almost done. Thanks for the help! i'll post pics! =D

 

Highly doubt it, i've never seen a 6 pin pci-e connector split in to 4+2. Yes there are loads of 6+2's, that seems to be the standard now but never a 4+2.

 

All you need is the POWER one and you are ready to go!

The AC97 is for the Mic/Line out on the front of the case, i never actually use these as i have USB headsets, but i'm pretty sure there will be an 8 pin connection very similar to the USB ones where it can go in.

No problem, that is what i'm here for. Hittings the thanks button would be the cherry on top though!

 

That's what I was referring to, actually, and likely him as well.

 

yeah i meant 6+2 :-o haha. but if i didn't have to go to work i would power it up but it has to wait til later tonight or tomorrow I need to take the cd disk drive out of my other computer to use as a temporary one.

I only have to install windows and the graphics card right? or do i have to install the MOBO?

 

I pressume you are on about drivers here?

If so then you need the GPU drivers, chipset drivers, SATA drivers, basically all the drivers from the MB Manufacturers DL section.

 

All you NEED to get up and running is to install Windows (or whatever OS you are going to use). To use all of the computer's capabilities, GPU, motherboard (chipset), and any other peripheral drivers will be needed.

 

If you want to connect to the net some MB's will require the LAN drivers too.

 

ok, so i need to get on the internet to get the drivers, but i might need a driver to get on the internet? how does that work?

What do you do with all the extra PSU cables? i feel like wherever i put them they look messy or get in the way or might wreck something. Maybe the easier question is where do you not put them?

 

Didn't your motherboard come with a driver CD? Mine did. And you won't NECESSARILY need drivers for the LAN to work, it's just a possibility.

Your PSU isn't modular (able to plug in/disconnect extra power cables)? If it's not, simply keep them out of the way of the fans, zip tie them up.

 

it came with a disc(looked at it quick and seen it said dvd) That is probably it. And yeah it's not modular which kind of sucks.

This is going to make you laugh. Where do I plug in the monitor? the Graphics card hasn't been installed so i can't use that can I?(also the connectors on it are a different size) and on the back ports of the mobo is just ethernet, usb, eSATA, 3.5mm jacks, cmos reset, nothing for video unless it is one of the ports called SPDIF out or 1394?