Ryan Dunn (Jackass) is dead

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Paxton007, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

  2. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Gawd, nothing left of the car!:eek I know nothing about this guy except what 3rd pic shows, I don't think are drinking ginger ale.:confused RIP anyways as 34 is a damn shame to die at.
     
  3. motc7

    motc7 Vice Admiral (Starfleet)

  4. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

    I agree that there's a significant chance that he was DWI / DUI. But he's someone people know to see, know by name. It sucks that he was only a few years older than I am, and he's gone. No matter how it happens.

    Really I'm a little surprised that they've all made it this far. Even still, death is death. Once you're gone, it doesn't matter how or why.

    I can't believe the sax player from the E Street Band died, and I didn't hear about it.
     
  5. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    You should check out the WAYLT thread more often.;) I guess I should have made a separate thread instead considering what he meant to the band and me.:( That's becoming quite the band where ever they all are.:)
     
  6. silas

    silas MajorGeek

    Ive been big fan of Dunn from the older days all to the newer days and I even loved his hangover 2 movie. Sad when people die for no reasons. I am a believer on no drinking and driving. Ive had friends died and Ive been passenger in 1 myself. Not fun at all and it stays with you the rest of your life. He will be missed by me and I am wondering who was the passenger in his car
     
  7. Wenchie

    Wenchie I R teh brat

    Yeah, I have no idea who he is and judging by the reasons he's famous, I'm not missing much. RIP "Jackass" That's why you don't drink and drive.

    Sorry if I sound harsh, but I have my reasons.
     
  8. iain.t

    iain.t MajorGeek

    RIP RYAN D.... can't believe it !!! I was just watching JA3 last night :-D well funny :-D.
    Though I totally disagree with the drink driving, only arseholes do that !!! Its not only his life he's taken either, my thoughts go out to the other persons family of who was travelling with him!!

    But he was still a legend in the Jackass series :-D:-D:-D
     
  9. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    If you have to go, speeding in a Porsche after a night of partying isn't too bad a way to check out:dood,I'll not speculate on whether he was drunk or not until after the report.

    I loved the earlier jackass's when I was younger,I distinctly remember saying "this is the funniest thing I've ever watched!" when I caught the christmas 'egg nog' episode by accident on MTV.

    RIP dude.
     
  10. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    This is in our Daily paper this morning since it happened right near me. :(

    I never watched those shows/movies since I thought the idea was asinine, but it's sad when people die that young. The saddest thing is that he didn't seem to have much respect for his own life.
     
  11. motc7

    motc7 Vice Admiral (Starfleet)

    People like that generally don't. Honestly, he is dead today due to bad parenting. simple as.
     
  12. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

    Under normal circumstances I would more strongly agree, and I don't mean to spark harsh feelings. But I've seen bad parenting, and most of the victims of that situation don't die driving a Porsche 911 GT3.

    If we have to blame someone, or some entity, I'd think the media, and our desire for programs such as the kind that made him "famous" would be more to blame than his parents, or their parenting tactics. He'd have died in any vehicle by the way it looked, but without being part of the Jackass series, he may not have had the time, or money to live the lifestyle that he did.

    That's just my opinion though. I could be wrong.
     
  13. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    The car burnt to a crisp along with them, I doubt there's much left to test. Vacumn up what's left, at least they saved the cost of a cremation. Got 'famous' by shoving a toy car up his ying-yang?:puke I would never ever pay to see anything like that.*sigh* For those that never seen them, it's like Mythbusters but from another stoopid dimension. NSFW I believe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQCDOCNAbcE
     
  14. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    I have never been a big fan of JackAss, I have watched it and laughed at some of it.
    I do find it ironic though, the guy spends half his life doing things that could possibly mame or kill you and dies in a car "Accident"
    Are we sure he wasn't working on a new stunt?

    As for the drink driving, if he was then he was, that makes him an idiot.... it doesn't mean he deserved to die.

    One thing I will give the Jackass boys is at least they are famous for something real, whether you call it talent or not they put themselves at high risk in the name of entertainment.
    Unlike certain other people I can think of that are famous because of daddy and a leaked sex tape or for being on big brother or having the largest engagment ring in the history of the world.

    Ryan you were never my favourite but you made me laugh anyway.

    R.I.P.
     
  15. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Nah your not wrong IMO,this is exactly what I was about to post.:)

    Base cost for a GT3 without any extras is $111,000,bad parenting doesn't produce results like that.

    One thing to note also,Ryan would always check with his parents to see if a particular stunt was too far,too dangerous ect. And would refuse to do them if his parents didn't approve.

    I'm surprised how quick you jumped to judge/condemn the parents Motc:confused

    I also don't see what's wrong with jackass:confused Its a bunch of guys hanging out,pulling pranks,doing stunts and just having a good time. I understand if you don't like it or think the things they do are too much for your taste but they aren't bad people or losers/wastes of space like Paris Hilton.

    I'd love to have a bunch of friends like that,that don't mind pranks and I love to have a go at some of the stunts they pull and provide entertainment for other people. More over I'd love to earn millions of dollars having so much fun.

    Rant over...
     
  16. silas

    silas MajorGeek

    I was going to post but backspaced it. But since someone thought the same way then figured Id through mine out. I think saying the bad parenting is jumping to something. I know for a fact through friends of mine that no matter if its parents who could careless about there kid(which I had friends like this) or to friends of mine that had parents strick to the point of not being able to go out or watch or do anything kids would want to... or even parents that are normal and in the middle. Ive had all sorts of kids get in wrecks due to drinking. No matter what kind of parenting they have.
     
  17. Kestrel13!

    Kestrel13! Super Malware Fighter - Major Dilemma Staff Member

    Dude...roflmao will you be my BBF?
     
  18. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    :-D Paris Hilton is so nice and such an inspiration letting regular people be friends with her

    Only after they have been rigorously vetted and competed in demeaning competition that is.

    I'd be a her BFF and take her on a shopping trip of a lifetime,to the plant machinery store! Her skinny butt would be perfect to help me inspect the blades on a woodchipper rolleyes
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2011
  19. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Blood alcohol 0.196, 132 to 140 MPH. What a JACKASS! At least he didn't kill other motorists.:mad
     
  20. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Sounds like a death wish.
     
  21. headmeetwall

    headmeetwall Private E-2

    nope, just an innocent passenger...

    I was reading that back in 2005 he was involved in a wreck and got a DUI just two miles from where he died...

    some people never learn....
     
  22. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    I dunno? The guy was getting drunk with Ryan before hand then got into the car with him knowing he'd been drinking.

    I wouldn't get into a car with someone who'd been drinking,I have in the past but not after about my twentieth birthday when the other half of my brain grew.
     
  23. headmeetwall

    headmeetwall Private E-2

    agreed on not getting into a car with someone who has been drinking - however - you become an innocent victim when you have zero control over the speed & reckless behavior in the way that person drives. There was no reason for Ryan to be going 100+....if he had no care about his own life, fine - but when you have someone else beside you - you need to care about their well being, blood alcohol level or not.

    RIP to both of them. Saw Ryan not too long ago on Minute to Win It winning money for charity with Steve-o. First time I ever saw them acting "normal" and they genuinely seemed like really good people.

    Sad.
     
  24. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

    Without being in the car, it's hard to tell what the situation was. It could have been that Ryan was being asked to drive like he was (which he could have declined). I know if I had a friend with a car like that, under normal circumstances I'd hop in and tell him to find a place he could open it up.

    I had a friend that competed in car stereo competitions about a decade ago, and he had the loudest car I'd ever heard at that point. He couldn't sit at an intersection without someone egging him on to rattle the traffic light.

    It could have been Ryan just being an idiot and the passenger being an innocent victim, but I'd bet that his friends were all close, long time friends, and knew what they were getting themselves into when they all got together (for anything).
     
  25. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    Personally I think the alcohol level is a moot point, that reading may well be twice the limit but it's not a lot of drink as far as ability to operate stuff goes.
    Bare in mind I am not condoning drink driving here, I personally drink maybe 1 beer a month if that, but it is usually when we go to the inlaws for dinner on a sunday.
    Now I only have a G2 license (2nd level, been driving 16 years but my UK license doesn't mean much here so I had to start a fresh) which it states my level is to be no higher than 0.0. Obviously 1 beer 2 hours before a large meal and 5 hours before driving is going to have zero effect on my ability to drive, it is also under the legal limit for a full licensed driver. But if I crashed the report would say I was over the limit and everyone would think I was drunk.

    In Dunn's case I think it was more the speed he was driving than anything, what caused it ? no one will ever know. Could have been he was looking for a CD, or checking himself in the mirror... or maybe an animal walked into the road causing him to swerve. In any instance at 140mph a sudden movement of the wheel will 99% of the time result in loss of control.

    So the debate across the net is all worded sensitively but in reality everyone is asking the question... "Was it his fault?"
    Well driving at that speed, it was... but there are many instances where someone not drinking and driving the limit will swerve for an animal and be killed in the crash.

    This was an accident that could possibly have been avoided (which technically negates the word.. "Accident") but I think it's wrong to "Blame" Dunn without knowing what exactly happend.

    As Paxton said, it might have been the other lad saying "Go on, floor it... are you chicken" or some such.

    Although at the end of the day when you have a passenger more so than any other time, if you are driving, your passengers life is in your hands.

    This seems to me nothing more than lads pissing around being idiots and it went bad. Lets just be thankful no one else was involved.

    Having said that, if it was my son in the passnger seat, I might think differently.
    Facts and emotions both walk a very close line.
     
  26. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    If one is driving at that speed then he'd be stupid to do any of those things. If he was an alcoholic then 0.196 might have been OK for him to handle the car at 60MPH. Give me a break, this guy could have easily afforded a taxi or limousine(pocket lint for him), no f'ing excuse for doing that. Good riddance to a jerk!;)
     
  27. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    Trust me, and this I know from personal experience...blowing 0.196 makes you so drunk you have a hard time forming multi-syllabic words, seeing things far away, and incapable of seeing if a car in front of you is moving or parked. And that's while driving a mere 30mph.
     
  28. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Yup he must have been wasted:confused I did a BAL check to see how close I could get and to put things in perspective.

    I guessed his weight high and got a result that was slightly under '0.19.5' to make sure it was a good example.So to get a blood alcohol that high using the minimum space of time and also the minimum number of beers he would have had to knock back 7 beers 'US pint' in less than an hour.

    Obviously he would have drank more than that over a longer period which increases the effects considerably,especially causing more drowsiness.

    But I think that puts things more into perspective.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2012
  29. silas

    silas MajorGeek

    No offense to anybody but I think everybodys body reacts to something differently. If we all drank and smoke a joint I think they're will be mean drunks and some funny drunks. Its not like the "way I feel or am after few beers" is how everybody else is. Now lets add in I ve done some pretty dumb stuff in my life being the funny person for jokes. But I don't think we will ever know why or what he was doing. How many times have I drank and don't remember after a certain point? Not to happy but many times wake up asking what I do and thank god i got clothes on this time. He could have been plain stupid and not cared and drove drunk(many have done this as well). He may have been passed the point of not remember/knowing much(which if you exsperience this you'll know dang I cant help it. Like someone has mention he could have been reaching for cd. Which this last year a friend of mine was doing the same on icy roads and rolled his car over. Also when I was younger I d look up to a guy and so I tried to be cool and keep up with him. Well lets just say 8 beers in an hour is pretty darn a lot to get ya drunk.
     
  30. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    When I blew the 0.19, I had had a pitcher of beer and four shots in about two hours. It doesn't always have to be just beer. And maybe he was reaching for a CD...but the fact remains that he was driving 100mph!!! That's not legal or safe (unless you're in an auto race, and we all know they can crash and die as well...and they're trained professional drivers).
     
  31. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    I stand corrected about the blood level then.

    I guess my point is once again the media jumps on it and makes him out to be a monster, whatever the reason, however irresponsible and idiotic he may have been niether of them deserve to die.
     
  32. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Who then does deserve to die besides Hitler and other megalomaniacal dictators, people like Bulger etc.? The media has nothing to do with inflating any facts, at least not CNN or other quality news outlets. The guy was drunk and therefore stupid, maybe he thought 'one last great stunt!' Pointe Finale as they say in Quebec!
     
  33. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Has the media made him out to be a monster? I haven't seen any news reports either way just the basics.

    I'll miss Ryan in Jackass,it won't be the same but in the same vein I don't feel sorry for him and if I died the same way I wouldn't want people to feel sorry for me,we all the freedom to influence our own fate.

    I don't think anyone deserves to die,I don't think anyone should die.
     
  34. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Yet that is reality as we know it now. Imagine if no one died on this planet? It would be another love for Capt. Kirk to transfer his infection to the populace.:-D
    Seriously, the African missionaries in the 50's had 1/2 of a good idea, teach them hygiene, how to get clean water etc. What they didn't preach about was condoms because of their lack of foresight or stupid beliefs. One out of 10 survived before, now it's 7/10. Do the math.

    How the heck did I ever get here from there?:confused Oh right, it's Rikky's fault!:-D
     
  35. ultranothing

    ultranothing Private E-2

    I've discussed this with several people. While any death is tragic, one must understand that Mr. Dunn created the conditions for his demise.

    When you drive drunk, this result isn't uncommon. When a Jackass drives his Porsche drunk at 140mph, this result is inevitable.
     
  36. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    There is no other possibility, you're dead! Too bad but that's the fragile life we live. Unless we were arachnids. :-D
     
  37. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    Without inciting an argument because as you well know Auggie , I have much respect for you but I'm not sure I understand where you were comming from there. I think most dictators deserve to die because they kill lots of people and are generally not very nice to other human beings.
    By Bulger I'm assuming you are talking about Jamie Bulger? He was a small child who was brutally murdered. Of course he didn't deserve to die.
    Ryan Dunn made a stupid mistake that cost 2 lives, I seriously doubt he went out thinking he was going to kill the guy next to him even if it meant taking his own life.

    As I said, I don't condone the drinking or the driving in this instance, I'm saying the guy made a mistake, you don't have to cry for him, but no one should say he deserved it.

    As for the media thing, it's the fact that they concentrate so hard on the fact he was drinking and imply he deserved everything he got.

    I think in these situations the best thing to clarify our opinions is to think that the person we are scolding was our child... would you still think the same way?
    We can then flip that to the family of the other lad, do they feel hatred toward Dunn? Do they blame him?
    After all, everyone is someones son or daughter.

    Life is fragile, people do stupid things, one day we might ALL learn, unfortunately for now only some of us understand the fact that some things you do can go real bad, real quick and innocent people will get hurt.
     
  38. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Nah, I meant Whitey Bulger who killed and maimed and extorted money from all sorts of honest people, basically a real mean assed crook, At 81 I believe he was still intimidating folks for cash. The piece of garbage finally got caught, too bad he's 81 as I'd like to see him in jail for 50 solid years instead of 'life'!
     
  39. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    81? lol I just got the funniest image in my head.

    Never heard of that guy although the name rings a bell, will have to look this up.
     
  40. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    k...this kind of cracked me up since there's a recent thread in here (the Lounge) that talks about his capture being the most important story in the world at the moment. :-D


    Anyway, Ryan Dunn is a (veryrolleyes) local story for me, so I've been seeing it ad nauseum in my local paper on the front page for the last week.

    People make mistakes, that is true, but he pretty much sealed his fate that evening...and that of his passenger.
     
  41. bigbazza

    bigbazza R.I.P. 14/12/2011 - Good Onya Geek

    An alternate story?

    Ryan Dunn Death:
    Is the Jackass star car crash news the biggest hoax ever?

    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/art...x-car-crash-drinking-speeding-living-will.htm

    I don't know the truth, do you?

    Bazza
     
  42. headmeetwall

    headmeetwall Private E-2

    The LA times put out an article (along with quite a fe other reputable papers) quoting the Chester County coroner on the cause of death - I know Hollywood has a reach - but I seriously doubt a county coroner would get in on it.
     
  43. ultranothing

    ultranothing Private E-2

    Don't forget the mighty cockroach:

    "Cockroaches can live for a week without a head, dying only of dehydration because they lack a mouth to drink, as their brain is scattered throughout the body. They can hold their breath for forty-five minutes, eat literally anything (they have a separate set of teeth inside their digestive system in case they need to eat on the run), run up to three miles an hour, and withstand an amount of radiation equivalent to that of a thermonuclear explosion -- between 90,000 and 105,000 rems for a German Cockroach! (A lethal dose of radiation for a human is 800 rems or more.)"

    - excerpted from a (highly recommended) book, "When All Hell Breaks Loose" by Cody Lundin.

    Mistake - n.
    1. An error in action, calculation, opinion, or judgment caused by poor reasoning, carelessness, insufficient knowledge, etc.

    Well, it's more accurate than "accident", anyway. Poor reasoning? I'd say. Alcohol certainly doesn't help one's judgement.

    Carelessness? Absolutely. He decided to drink and drive. Of course, his ability to make intelligent choices was diminished by the alcohol in his system, so we might say that his first "mistake" was to drink in the first place. When you're out in your Porsche GT3, you might want to keep the inebriation to a minimum?

    Insufficient knowledge? BUZZ! Nope! He's a "professional" stuntman. A Jackass-of-all-trades, so to speak. He knew it was a bad idea. Any ten year old knows it's a bad idea.

    So is there someone to blame for the death of Ryan Dunn? Yes!

    Ryan Dunn.

    Did he deserve to die? Not for the life he lived. He wasn't a bad person as far as I knew him (which is not at all.) He managed to survive all of his stunts that he performed over twenty years. He did a lot of stupid things in the spirit of entertainment and lived to tell the tale each time...

    But for his actions that day? His series of incredibly bad choices leading up to his predictable demise?

    What is it do "deserve"? To: be in line for, be worthy, earn, get one's comeuppance, get one's due, get one's just desserts, get what is coming, have a claim, have a right, have coming, incur, justify, rate, warrant.

    His actions put him in line for death. His actions were death-worthy. His actions earned him death. His actions gave him what was coming. He had it coming by making the choices he made. His actions incurred his death. His death was justified by his actions. Actions such as those Mr. Dunn took usually warrant that bad things, including dying, can be the result.

    So, yeah, a part of me thinks he deserved to die. Not because he was evil, but because he was incredibly stupid. A "Jackass" if ever there was one.

    And because driving a Porsche at 140mph while nearly two and a half times the legal limit seems like "astoundingly stupid judgement", I'd say he qualifies for a Darwin award, too.
     
  44. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    agreed
    I watch 1,000 ways to die, and that show has the most moronic people dying in the stupidest ways. I'm am sick of hearing about this dude and about WeinerGate. the USA has turned into something I am not proud of.
     
  45. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    really? hmmm

    does the guy who buys a lotto ticket deserve to win?
    yes, he bought the ticket, so increased his chances from 0 to .0000001

    does the guy who studies a lot deserve to ace his test?
    yes, he did the work and studying increased his chances of acing his test from <25% to higher a lot higher.

    did the dude who got drunk and drove deserve to die
    yes, as he increased his chances of wrecking his car by drinking/driving

    there are some things in life we can control, and those things simply have a chance of happening; people try to increase the odds in our favor
    do you have a chance to hook up after one date? yes, so you increase this chance by not being fat, showering, wearing nice clothes....
    http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/demotivational-posters-untitled13.jpg
     

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