My oven baked, grill seared ribs

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Major Attitude, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    I have been working on my rib recipe and some asked me to share, so here it is! I have done a countless hours of research on ribs starting by cooking over lump charcoal for 4-6 hours and finally found a compromise that gives a great tasting, fall off the bone rib that is almost effortless to do at any skill level. I don't like spicy so I was going for a smoky, tangy flavor with maybe a hint of hot. My skill level at cooking is 0. I prefer a drive through, so anyone can do this! Times are estimated at the high end.

    Besides the rib rub, you will need a rack of ribs, liquid smoke * and aluminum foil.

    Step 1 (10 minutes): Prepare your ribs if needed. **

    This includes removing the membrane and extra flap of meat. *** Cut the rack into 2 pieces.

    Step 2: (10 minutes) Make the rub!

    Here is my rib rub recipe for 1 rack:

    1\2 teaspoon garlic powder
    1\2 teaspoon of smoked paprika
    1 teaspoon mustard powder
    1 teaspoon chipotle chile pepper
    1 teaspoon fresh ground black pepper
    2 teaspoons salt (I like sea salt)
    3 teaspoons brown sugar

    Combine into a bowl, and then grind them until all the lumps are gone and the color is consistent.

    Step 3: Rub the ribs (5 minutes)

    Sprinkle the rib rub on the ribs and rub it in evenly, completely coating the ribs. (see photos) Flip the rib and repeat, then repeat on the other half.

    Let the ribs sit out for 30 minutes.

    Step 4: Cook in the oven (1 hour, 45 minutes)

    After letting the ribs set for 30 minutes, preheat (and test) your oven to 290 degrees. ****

    While preheating the oven, wrap each set of ribs in aluminum foil, shiny side out, meatier side down. Close the foil up tightly obviously without damaging the ribs. (see photos)

    Cook them on the lowest rack (away from direct heat) and set a cookie pan underneath in case the ribs leak juice from the foil and saving you some cleanup.

    Set the timer to 1 hour and 45 minutes. Walk away.

    Turn on your gas grill 5 minutes before the time is up. Medium high should work well. (or any way you might have to sear the ribs)

    Step 4: Remove, sear, cut and serve (10 minutes)

    Take ribs out of oven and remove from foil. I usually remove them from the foil on the same cookie sheet I used to catch drippings, pour out the extra juice and discard the foil. Then transfer the ribs to a new pan that you can cut them on shortly.

    Brush (or mop) the ribs with Sweet Baby Ray's original BBQ sauce (I also used Sweet Baby Ray's Hickory & Brown Suger which adds a great smoke flavor). A few drops of liquid smoke in regualr Sweet Baby Rays can add more smoke. Place them on the grill and brush the other side. After 2-3 minutes, flip them and wait 2-3 minutes.

    Cut the ribs (I use a butcher knife, it's so much easier) and brush on a little more fresh Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce.

    Serve and enjoy!

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    Notes & tips:
    ** Look on Google for ideas on removing the membrane. Basically using a napkin or paper towel makes removing them easy.
    *** I like to trim down and cook the "flaps" as well. They are tasty on their own, but don't care for it on the ribs. Flaps are the extra loose meat you can lift up and cut off.
    **** Modern ovens tend to be very accurate. If you have an older oven please purchase a thermometer and be sure your oven temperature is accuarate.

    Let me know if you do it and how it worked out. I find it to be a delicious smokey, tangy flavor with a touch of hot on the tip of the tounge. It should fall off the bone and maintain a chewiness as well. Most BBQ judges look for exactly this texture.

    Photos: The rub, ribs after rub, ribs out of grill still in foil, ribs out of foil.

    (Removed liquid smoke, it just didn't work. See note where you use BBQ sauce)
     

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    Last edited: Aug 28, 2011
  2. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Final pictures: In the grill, out of the grill, cut and sauced.
     

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  3. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Nice and simple MA, I don't know how many lbs of ribs you got there, probably three, so I caution folks not to use more than 1tsp.(5ml) per/2 lbs. of meat. I also don't know the strength and type of liquid smoke you got, though hickory seems to be the most popular. I make cured sausages without a smoker so I've used it a lot over the last 15 years, looks good man!:drool
     
  4. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Yum! Looks awesome, MA. I love me some ribs.

    That is the absolute best method to cook ribs and I do the exact same... wrapping in foil individually and baking at 300 for 1 1/2 hour, then browning on the grill.

    I use a bit different rub (from Cook's Illustrated):
    1tablespoon sweet paprika
    1 1/2teaspoons chili powder
    1 3/4teaspoons ground cumin
    1 1/2teaspoons dark brown sugar
    3/4teaspoon salt or 1 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt
    3/4teaspoon oregano
    3/4teaspoon ground black pepper
    1teaspoon ground white pepper
    1/2teaspoon cayenne pepper


    I have a lot of different sauces I make, but always use the same method to cook them.
     
  5. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    @ Auggie, I am unsure. I filled bottom of the tablespoon for each quarter and it wasnt enough. I suspect some of it burned off in the oven.

    @ Laura: I started with a similar St. Lois style but didnt care for the hot peppers, hence the chipolte.
     
  6. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Interesting ideas. I have never cooked ribs, but am thinking about trying them. I was told the opposite, sear on the grill, then put on BBQ sauce and cook in the oven. Most people I know smoke them.

    Tasty looking eats there MA!
     
  7. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    I'm a fan of hot peppers of most kinds. I generally pair the rub with a sweeter sauce. I've got a couple of recipes I use a lot...both with a soda base.

    I've never removed the silver skin membrane. I'll have to give that a try.


    I remember growing up, my mom used to parboil them. Sorry to anyone who still does this but :puke
     
  8. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    @ Fred_G: I found the recipe online. Problem with doing on the grill, then oven is that the BBQ tends to burn off or so I was told. If memory serves, it is the sugar. As mentioned, I am a bit obsessive compulsive so I did a ton of research on it. Basically if you cook in the oven you get that fall off the bone that people love. By searing them, it retains a chewiness that BBQ judges look for, in other words the holy grail.

    Finally, I did start by long and slow on the grill using lump charcoal, the hardest way. 4+ hours. Theres a picture on our Facebook page of those, you can see they look different. That said I tried to be a purest and do it that way but my research showed it can be done a few different ways and most won't notice. The liquid smoke is just water over a fire, so that's cool. 2 things got me away from low and slow; The time and the carcinogens believed to be in there from the wook or charcoal. O.k, motly the time, lol.

    @ LauraR, I love spicy and hot as well but on my ribs I prefer tangy, smoky and a hint of heat but it's all personal, right? :) Always remove the membrane. Cut into it a bit then pull it back with a napkin so you can get a grip on it. Try my rub sometime, it has a tangy smoke but the chipolte (which everyone loves) seems to leave a nice little burn on your tounge that isn't annoying. Interesting on the boil comment, I also read that was the worst possible thing.

    Yeah, I overthought this, so what? ;)
     
  9. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    Yep, definitely personal and mostly all good to me. :) I've got to say, ribs are one of my most favorite things. In all the times I've cooked them I can't believe I haven't taken that membrane off. I'll definitely be doing that. I'll try your rub too. Half the time, I rely on store bought rub and make my own sauce.
     
  10. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    MA agree on the BBQ sauce on the grill. I was told to apply the rub, sear them a few mins on each side, then put the BBQ sauce on them, cover in foil, and bake. Like I said, I have never cooked ribs, was just doing some research on em. ;)

    I thought the purpose of searing meat was to 'seal' the outside of the meat, so the juices stay in? Again, I am not an expert, just curious.
     
  11. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Total novice as well Fred, my wife is happy about this so I can only tell you what I learned. If you wrap them in foil tightly on the grill (meat side down) it soaks in it's own juices for almost 2 hours and thats what you're after. The grill is simply to give the meat back a touch of chewiness, the BBQ sauce is just neat to burn in.

     
  12. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Also, I forgot meatier side down so modified the recipe, thanks Fred :)
     
  13. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    My aunt cooks them as you mentioned above, as did my father...until they had them cooked by me (which is how MA described in his first post):-D I've cooked them every which way. I cook a ton and I've made ribs a lot. This is how you want to cook them...unless you are going to take all day long and smoke them on a bbq. I'm sure that is an awesome way to do it, but I don't have the time for that.

    Agreed. Searing is good for steaks and other cuts of meat you aren't going to be cooking for long and you don't want to dry out. The ribs are basting in their own juices and ribs are pretty fatty. You don't have to worry about drying them out. The searing afterwards gives the outside the tougher bbq texture you want of them so they aren't like stew meat.
     
  14. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Smoking them all the way takes something like 7 hours @ 225F, low and slow. These techniques speed up the process and yet preserve the juicyness of the ribs. I'd prefer grilling them after the oven so that the sauce caramelizes a bit giving extra flavour.

    I still prefer naturally smoked ribs but babysitting the smoker is quite tedious unless you got a fancy one, these oven techniques are way quicker but miss the mark IMO but noone notices the difference and TBH are excellent. I never tried grilling them first, I'll try a 4-bone that way next time I make them, worth a shot eh?

    @MA Some folk swear that when one removes the membrane that more of rub flavour gets in but others say that it keeps the meat juicier with the membrane on. I leave it on. To each their own.;) Take your pick.
     
  15. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    hmmm...well, I'm going to try it next time to compare.
     
  16. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Interesting. I was going to mention this to Laura but decided to leave it alone not knowing for sure...

    First time I did it they were good but I didn't know about the membrane. I don't think I see a difference HOWEVER I have gotten the recipe closer to exactly what I want so, like Laura, I will do the opposite and leave it on next time. If I were to GUESS... The membrane is tough, almost like thin plastic but appears to burn off during cooking so where does the rub go? My suspicion is the rub gets into the meat better without it, but I am willing to test and report back next time around :) Thanks!

    All I can say is MOST recipes I read said to remove it. Then again, every recipe is totally different from start to finish. Took me 8 tries to get my oven temperature right because everyone has different temps and times listed.

     
  17. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Yup, the membrane is a barrier to the rub in the same way that it's a barrier to moisture. I like tenderer ribs so I leave it on with a stronger rub. You'll get there Tim to where you love them.:)

    As to ovens, they mostly suck for proper temperature reporting, I got a $3 dial type thermometer and found that my older oven was off by 75 degrees!:eek I can't talk about these new digital types as I don't have one and haven't done any studying on it. A few friends tested their ovens that way and generally found a 25 to 50F difference, now their baked stuff comes out perfect.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2011
  18. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Good point Augie, my oven is a digital, but it is of by 25 degrees. Got one of those oven temp things myself.
     
  19. sibeer

    sibeer MajorGeek

    "Or mop".:-D:-D May I use that phrase the next time I BBQ?

    Nice job writing the recipe MA.I'm no cook either, but I may give it a try.
    My wife would be blown away if I set foot in the kitchen for any reason other than to do dishes.
     
  20. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Sure, it's a real tool :) You use it so that you dont spread the rub around. My wife is thrilled that I grill now, it will pay off for you :) If you get the ribs done by a butcher it only takes about 5 minutes to rub the ribs, 5 minutes to sear them only taking you about 15 minutes of your actual time in preparation. If you do it let me know :)

     

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  21. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Wow, totally forgot that and added a note. My oven is 2 years old with little use so afaik it is accurate. This also explains why everyones times vary on the interent. Some recipes are 10 years old out there.

     
  22. sibeer

    sibeer MajorGeek

    Ahh. I thought it was emphasizing how much you like the Sweet Baby Ray's sauce.
    My wife now wants me to give it a try, but it won't be for a month or so, Vacation is coming up in a week and we'll be away.
    I'll definately let you know how they turn out.
     
  23. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    K...I am trying your whole recipe (minus the liquid smoke which has somehow disappeared from my cabinet). I took the silverskin off and will give an opinion on the difference.

    The rub is on and I'll be cooking them tonight.:-D
     
  24. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

  25. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    So, I made the ribs last night.

    I've got to say, they were awesome. Removing the membrane was well worth it...just a better texture without it while eating.

    The rub was really good and I've never had that Baby Ray's...that was awesome. I generally make my own, but this was a great store bought alternative.

    Really worth making for anyone who is going to be doing ribs.:)
     
  26. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Glad to hear it Laura :)
     
  27. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Cool Laura, in view of your side by side test with the membrane on/off I'm going to try a side by side myself as I've been doing it with it on for ten years and a retaste is in order. There's nothing written in stone as far as food goes here.
     
  28. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    There's no difference for me and peeling the membrane off is a PITA. A bit salty for me, used Kosher salt so it might pack tighter than yours, also added a tsp. of chile flakes to have a bit more heat. All in all, a nice simple rub.:drool
     
  29. Kestrel13!

    Kestrel13! Super Malware Fighter - Major Dilemma Staff Member

    *Drools and heads for the kitchen* Only ribs I have are the ones on me though :-D Damn. Those look tasty MA.
     
  30. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    I left membrane and considering its the most difficult step in preparing, NO ONE complained or noticed so membrane removal is out for me. Making some now with cornbread, watermelon and corn on the cob.
     
  31. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    I hope you're making a smoothie with that!:-D
     
  32. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Oddly enough though I used more it just didnt work. I am doing it now with Sweet Baby Rays Hickory & Brown Sugar and think I can skip the liquid smoke.

     

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