Leave McDonalds Alone!

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  1. Bugballou

    Bugballou MajorGeek

    McDonald's is a BIG buyer of cattle, no problem with that, just if the animals are treated humanely prior to slaughter. Spoke with a cattle buyer who said Micky D's was at the bottom of the list in that department. Although he was prejudiced, I didn't doubt him. While our local McDonald's was closed, demolished, and rebuilt, I started having lunch at the Wendy's across the street, and have never looked back...Right here Ronald.
     
  2. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    you can eat mcdonalds daily and LOSE weight, see the movie FAT HEAD
    the government already sucks at whatever it does, Transfats will **** you up and they label foods ZERO trans fats, even though the food has .5mg per serving.
    a 6 inch pizza has NO trans fats, because it has 30 servings?
    wtf
    the government is being paid off.

    . Under FDA regulations, "if the serving contains less than 0.5 gram [of trans fat], the content, when declared, shall be expressed as zero."

    Suppose you eat one serving of Product A, one serving of Product B, and one serving of Product C. Let's assume that each product contains 0.4 grams per serving. You have just consumed 1.2 grams of trans fat, despite the fact that each of the labels claims that the products contain zero grams of trans fat per serving! Click here for an article about the less than 0.5 gram rule.
    http://www.bantransfats.com/newlabeling.html
     
  3. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    I thought you were calling Rikky a fat head until I googled it and saw the movies is called fat head :-D

    However, I find it extremely hard to believe that you can eat McD's and lose weight, unless you eat it sporadically. Fat isn't what always makes a person gain weight. Too much salt, sugar, other processed chemicals (and in my opinion high fructose corn syrup). People demonize fat like it's the only thing that makes you gain weight, I never in my life have bought anything that is "fat free" (on purpose anyway) and I am not overweight. My problem is sugar, I eat too many sugary items and I WILL gain weight.
     
  4. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    I can send you the study that shows HFCS doesnt do crap to make you get fat(got it from my biochemistry teacher) Fat isnt what makes you get fat, true, what makes food taste/look good is salt, sugar, other processed chemicals, people get fat from too many calories,
    it's as simple as that, and the fact your body hates you is why you are fat.
    think how humans evolved, we never had a lot of food, so when we came upon food we ate as much as we could.....thats exactly how we are today, even though food is on every corner...I have pets and when I leave for a day or two, I put out a lot of food, I tell them, hey this has to last you 2 days they eat it all in one sitting....they still have water, but water isnt food.....
     
  5. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    I'd like to see that :)

    I've been reading about the more and more research they do on HFCS, the more links they find to diabetes, obesity, etc. I remember reading a story of a guy who was diagnosed with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (HFCS is metabolized by the liver) They could not figure out how he got this until they went through his diet and he told them that he drank like a 2 liter of pepsi a day. They told him to eliminate that from his diet and his symptoms improved. Now, what is soda predominately made of? ;) :-D
     
  6. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    2 Liters of Pepsi a day? rolleyes Hard core soda drinker! I drink like 1 12 oz soda a week.
     
  7. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    Absolutely!

    Human population growth is at the heart of most of our ecological problems.
     
  8. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    PM me your email and I'll send you the study,
    I'd like to see the guy/soda story you mention
     
  9. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    diet or regular?

    this is why I think there has to be some cap on having kids, etc.
    we wouldnt use 10 trillion barrels of oil/day if there weren't so many of us.
     
  10. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    They ain't diet watchntv! Especially after adding some rum or whiskey in them! Really probably more like 2 or 3 a month. I just don't see the point in diet drinks, but people like them.;)
     
  11. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Worst things that can happen is it will kill a few of us off:-D win win.

    I don't have a fat head :mad My body is just stunted.

    I don't doubt its possible,would most people lose weight eating mcdonalds every day? Doubtful.
     
  12. mjnc

    mjnc MajorGeek

    It's not just US, Rikky, as I'm sure you know.
     
  13. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Aliens:confused
     
  14. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    is it Paul?
     
  15. silas

    silas MajorGeek

    Didn't get a chance to see if it was posted yet. I am in a rush(so sorry if so). But theres a guy that ate if memory serves me right. He ate over 1 mac a day if not more.. and just this year maybe few months ago. He made it to like the thousands or something:confused and he still the same weight(normal size)
     
  16. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    I looked for the article but it's been a while since I read it, so I couldn't find it but this a fantastic video that I think everyone should watch. This is the abridged version because the original version is 90 minutes but I suggest watching the original because it's very good too.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMjKEncojQ


    The long version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
     
  17. Phantom

    Phantom Brigadier Britches

    Great videos, Dy.:cool:)
     
  18. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    exactly right, companies just need to tell you what's in their products, from calories to Transfats the FDA says .<5mg transfats can be counted as 0 BUT IT"S NOT ZERO
    http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/about/
    fathead shows if you watch calories you can lose fat, reduce cholesterol. etc
     
  19. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    so the nurtion label lies to you and tells Zero trans fat( per serving)
    which means they dividedup thefood into servings so small they each have less than .5mg of transfats, but then you add up all the servings and you have transfat in the product

    so can the food producer add cyanide and have so many servings they can say CYANIDE FREE?
     
  20. augiedoggie

    augiedoggie The Canadian Loon - LocoAugie (R.I.P. 2012)

    Ya, unfortunately that's the loophole that they have but it's up to the consumer to understand how to read between the lines of a label. Still, a serving has to be of reasonable size even though I would probably easily go through 3 or 4 'serving sized' portions.

    As to transfat, at least you know it's pretty low.
    As to the cyanide analogy, it's the dose that makes a poison. It's pretty much impossible to eliminate all trans-fat unless you become a vegan which I will never do.

    The quote is from the Canadian government.
     
  21. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    I post in this thread because of something relating to what I bolded.

    I have lost 70lbs since 1-1-12 and I really watch the what I eat....
    yes, watching what you eat can prevent eating transfats, without going vegan....but it's tough
    I bought some alexia crinkle fries, no saturated fat, the label also reads,"NO TRANSFATS.. PER SERVING"
    I also bought some cascadian farm crinkle fries which says 0grams trans fats

    I made and ate both, which have nearly identical ingredients cept alexia has, "and/or sunflower oil and/or safflower oil

    when I called them up(number is on the package) this is what happened
    -hi, I want to know if your fries have transfats?
    whats the upc code?
    3418300302

    the nutrition panel says no trans fats per serving

    yes, thats what I read also, but if I eat the whole bag, how many transfats are there?
    sir, we dont recommend eating the whole bag

    thats great, but I serve them to my family and we eat them all, so I would like to know how many transfats are in the whole bag

    sir, we dont recommend eating the whole bag

    I understand, but the question stands

    would you like to talk to a supervisor?

    sound good

    please hold
    ON hold for 3 mins then disconnected
     
  22. jimi

    jimi Private E-2

    "Eric Brandt, now a student at Case Western Reserve School of Medicine in Cleveland, did some investigating while still an undergraduate and found that even when labels indicated no trans fats, foods often contained them.

    Using this research, he published a paper in the current issue of the American Journal of Health Promotion, calling for changes in the way trans fats are listed on labels. Experts agree that trans fats are a health hazard but believe there might be better ways to indicate their presence, and that changing regulations could have adverse effects on consumers.

    "I looked more closely at the list of ingredients and found that a lot of foods that say they have no trans fats actually contain partially hydrogenated oils, which do have trans fat in them," said Brandt.

    He said the discrepancy occurs because the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not require manufacturers to list trans fats if they are present in amounts less than .5 grams.

    Omitting that information, however, could pose a danger to consumers.

    "Research has consistently shown that if you add up small amounts less than .5 grams over time, it can become a significant amount and can be harmful to health," said Brandt. "

    link

    that little 1/2 % sure is misleading:liar
     
  23. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    that's what I said,?
    trans fat math, .49=0, is not changing because the FDA/congress whomever makes the rules is getting paid off

    what other answer is there?

     
  24. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    no, this is wrong

    I don't think it's fair to get people all worked up about the greater likelihood [of dying] from heart disease," said Keith Ayoob, associate professor of pediatrics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. "Most studies show trans fat becomes more of a problem if it becomes 2 to 3 percent of the daily diet. That's about 4 grams a day."
    wrong because:
    1. .49grams/serving and how many people eat only one serving?
    2. why doesnt the nutrition label just say what's in the WHOLE BOX/BAG? that way Americans dont need to do math which americans suck at doing
    3. trans fat math, .49=0, is not changing because the FDA/congress whomever makes the rules is getting paid off

    what other answer is there?

     
  25. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    "Americans dont need to do math which americans suck at doing"

    Well, that is not very nice. I did some math yesterday, flawless execution. :cool
     
  26. jimi

    jimi Private E-2

    x = y.
    Then x2 = xy.
    Subtract the same thing from both sides:
    x2 - y2 = xy - y2.
    Dividing by (x-y), obtain
    x + y = y.
    Since x = y, we see that
    2 y = y.
    Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero.
    Subtracting 1 from both sides,
    1 = 0. :confused

    perfect, oh and i am one of those americaners:-D
     
  27. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest


    I have a very large pet peeve. Don't run with the sheep and bash Americans because it is the cool thing to do. I don't like bashing of any country's people. I don't care how innocent people think it is, it is stupid behavior, typical of those who follow the crowd like cattle.

    That said,


    A kid wants to borrow 100 bucks.
    He asks Mom for 50 bucks.
    He asks Dad for 50 bucks.
    He now has 100 bucks.
    He buys something for 97 bucks.

    He now has 3 bucks left over.
    He gives one dollar to Mom. Now he owes Mom 49 bucks.
    He gives a dollar to Dad. Now he owes Dad 49 bucks.
    He can't make change, so he pockets the remaining dollar.

    So how come when he pays back Mom 49 dollars, and then Dad 49 dollars, and then adds in his left over dollar, it = 99 bucks?
    WHERE DID THE DOLLAR GO?

    Come on smartie ;)
     
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  28. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    huh?
    is that a math problem like I'm talking about? no
    I suggest you follow the money though
    the kid borrowed $100,
    spent $97 on hookers
    pocket $3
    paid back $2
    then sold some crack and got $98
    his pocket now has $98+$1
    when he pays that back, he pulls out $99 out of his pocket because he counts the $1 he had in there from the change he got($3) before he paid back $2 on his debt--$1 went into his pocket
    when the day is done, he is $1 richer as he earned $98 from crack and spent only $97 on hookers

    Im unsure why this is a mystery to you?


    back to what Im saying about americans not needing to do more math cause they arent good at it

    Im not changing reality by reporting what has been measured


    Fifteen-year-olds in the U.S. ranked 25th among peers from 34 countries on a math test and scored in the middle in science and reading, while China’s Shanghai topped the charts, raising concern that the U.S. isn’t prepared to succeed in the global economy.

    The Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation & Development, which represents 34 countries, today released the 2009 Program for International Student Assessment. For the first time, the test broke out the performance of China’s Shanghai region, which topped every country in all academic categories. The U.S. government considers the test one of the most comprehensive measures of international achievement.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/07/american-students-lagging-behind-on-math-scores/#ixzz25D3jcjFI


    why does the fda make a bag of chips a math problem
    servings 16
    calories per serving 90

    instead of
    calories per bag 1440

    why not just tell me how many calories in the bag? BECAUSE YOU CANT FOLLOW THE MONEY IS WHY,
    no one knows how much lobbyists give the FDA/congress to allow .5mg=0mg
    thats the new math?
    in 24 servings, you are eating over 11grams of trans fats
     
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  29. sikvik

    sikvik Corporal Karma

    A :) or a :-D at the end of your post would have been relevant. Else you are being offensive.
    Adry's Math question, was simple enough to answer. Why put your *colourful* version.

    Since you've done the research... what do you plan to do about it. Besides ranting on MGs. Don't eat it or serve it to the family.

    Cheers..
     
  30. Kestrel13!

    Kestrel13! Super Malware Fighter - Major Dilemma Staff Member

    I've just applied for a job there :-D Seriously.
     
  31. Phantom

    Phantom Brigadier Britches

    I actually co-owned a franchise at one point in my life - it's over-rated, trust me roflmao. We also used to, (and still do a.fa.i.k.), supply meals to the major children's hospital, (Princess Margret Hosp.), so most of the main menu items, (which are figured out by Dietitians) aren't that bad. Other items, which have since been added, like all the fancy thick shakes, etc., are basically just sugar buzz crap and no way would we have let sick kids eat them.
    So do I eat at Mcd's? 'Prolly once in a blue moon, but not my kind of grub, never was.
    Guess a lot of the answer to the O.P. question is - the same reason(s) why they say "97%" fat-free; "kills 99.9% of household germs". MARKETING - it sounds a lot better than saying "3% pure fat"; (leaves 0.01% of dangerous germs behind".;)
     
  32. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    colorful?
    I was lost on the point, so I thought he had a problem he couldnt solve, so I showed him how to get the answer and why it was true


    again, I described a problem, companies saying no transfats when there are transfats in foods, in this nation and with one products showed what I did to get a solution to the problem and how that turned out for one product,

    there is nothing I can do to solve the problem of a companies hiding posion within the foods and then telling you that there is no posion,thats why I wrote so much about the problem
    cheers
    :-D
     
  33. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I never said I couldn't solve it. I welcome you to go ahead and point where I said that though.
    I just asked you to solve it. Of course you didn't use the parameters I gave...
    This is a family oriented site. If you want to use hookers and crack as examples (no it wasn't cute), do it somewhere else.
     
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  34. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    There will always be someone who will tell you that McDs is not good or Starbucks will kill you,Pizza will give you a heart attack and so on, i personally eat what i enjoy and if i die a bit earlier at least i died happy.:)
     
  35. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    people love to tell you things. it's a powerplay
    go smoke or tan or wear short sleeves/shorts in the snow(thats what I do) and yet people say to me, "arent you cold?" to which I reply,,"yes, Im freezing, but Im too stupid to wear a coat/pants....

    I agree with you about eating what you want to be happy, the problem I have in allowing myself to do that is, it's doubtful I will die in one event or before eating poorly has caused my quality of life to have a negative slope as I grow older.
    I didnt see any parameters?
    You took what I said about americans not being good at math, and backed up with a international comparison and I expressed my misunderstanding why the FDA expects us to do math...and then I showed how simple that math was(but who carries a calculator in a grocery store) and got angry/peeved about it
    I didnt understand where your hate to me was from.

    It was funny to use hookers/crack on your problem where you challenged for no reason at all.

    I still am missing why you got yourself into a twist over my post
    maybe if I said a remark that was unproven and not part of my overhall point, but everything I said went together.
    I said it because we have a health problem in this nation, and I dont get why we are making it hard to figure out total calories in food.
    next thing the FDA plans to do is put the ingredients in french....
    oh well.
     
  36. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    No, using hookers and crack as examples are your problem. It wasn't funny. This site is PG. Don't do it. Simple, right?


    As for parameters of a math problem....are you serious? You don't introduce new items irrelevant to a math problem to solve it. You use what is given. Anyway, that was a joke of a problem anyway that apparently you missed.

    At any rate, I don't hate you. I HATE the idea of people grouping a country of people together and stereotyping. I find it offensive. I thought I made that clear a couple of times.
     
  37. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    it was funny, you dont like interesting/color like that on here: not a problem
    huh? I broke down how I thought out the problem so there was no confusion about how i arrived at the answer. you are saying I am not allowed to do that because parameters that werent stated say that?
    I didnt see that as a parameter and I dont see any parameters at all, I do recall you calling me a name though, thats not nice, this is a family site, you know........
    should I insert a funny face or say J/k here? cause you cant get away with calling people names or insulting them in real life: IE
    -hey you are really a mean person..JUST JOKING! *WinK*
    oh arent you just an adorable person... here's a $1
    I made it clear a few times the reason I said what I did about americans math lack of math skills
    -I posted a link to international test results showing american rank low in math skills
    -americans have an obesity issue

    so why does the FDA make it using math necessary to use to find out the calories in a package of food


    I mentioned those same reasons before, you dont "HATE" how I grouped Americans together saying they have an obesity issue...inconsistency..hmmm I dont wonder why you dont HATE that:-D
     
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  38. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest




    Probably because Americans are good at math, while some are not.

    ;)
     
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  39. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    I can agree with you here Bill. It's just the majority of the food I don't eat (McDonald's included) is because I know how they actually make the food, which is a huge and disgusting turn off (to me).
     
  40. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    I'm not sure how he is $1 "richer", since you used it in the sense that he made a profit.
    He borrowed $100.
    Paid $2 back.
    Kept $1

    At this point he still has $1 to spend but it is a borrowed $1.
    So at some point this kid manages to raise another $98 to pay back the remaining debt to his mother and father.
    Once paid back he has $1 left which he now owns, but this $1 had nothing to do with the borrowing deal, this is an extra $1 he earned.
    In actual fact he only had to raise $97 in order to repay the debt in full.
    But no one mentioned how much he raised/earned in order to pay back the debt.
    How do we know he didn't do a little bit of PC repairs and end up earning $128, now he pays back the remaining debt and has $30 to his name.
    So the debt was a simple borrow and pay back with no interest or fee's of any kind, the $1 he supposedly had left over after the debt was paid was not acquired during the process of the borrowing and paying back and had nothing to do with the mother or father at all. It is simply what he has left from his pay after paying his dues.

    Oh and as far as the rest of the argument, fat, trans fat, whatever you'd like to call it and all the other things, the point was originally that the media harps on McD's when the other are all just as bad and there is no reason to bad press any of them because anyone who doesn't understand the FACT that any food you do not cook from fresh (or at least fresh frozen) is going to contain elements that are unhealthy and detrimental to your body's natural process.
    If you want to grip about something how about when you go into a supermarket and look at the "Fresh Meat" counter, pick up a fresh steak and read the ingredients list... wait... why does a "Fresh Steak" have an ingredients list?
    Go buy some chicken from WalMart, you think McD's is bad and the WalMart fresh chicken breast is sooooo much better.

    You know what, we as humans have been eating carbs and fat for hundreds of thousands of years, our bodies are built to process it.

    You go on a low fat diet and I'll go on a bacon and eggs diet, I bet you I lose a lot more weight , a lot faster and feel better.
    Why? Low fat, low sugar or "Free" anything is worse for you than the normal.
    You think Semi Skimmed milk will help you lose weight over full fat?... WRONG!... why? because the fat removed makes it taste like crap so they add sugar, you body burns sugar for fuel before fat because it's easier, so the fat you should be burning is just sitting there waiting for all the sugar to be burnt first.

    A BigMac meal is no worse for you than a "Low fat meal"
    This is scientific fat and I stand before you eating McD's once per week and bacon and fried eggs, full fat milk, steak and mushrooms, pork chops and beans.
    The result in 4 months?
    Lower cholesterol, 47lbs dropped, better energy levels, no more heart burn and clogged guts.
    Wanna argue with me?.... Show me your personal results.

    The key?
    Eat breakfast.
    Don't eat anything with chemicals.
    Cut down bread and pasta.
    Don't eat or drink anything with added sugar.

    Fried foods and fat?... go for it, your body knows how to deal with it.
    Monosodiumassulate or some such weird chemical?.. your body is like "WTH is this and how do I process it?, this will take a while, I'll do this first before burning fat"

    Kind of went off on a tangent there but hey, some info for you :-D
     
  41. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    not sure what you are reading
    he borrowed $100, paid back $100,and kept $1.
    interest, and the other factors you added are all nonsense:wave
    yes, you would...why? because your meal is carb free and carbs(glycogen in the liver/muscles) holds water and no sugar/carbs means yor glycogen will get used up and not replaced and no glycogen means you cant hold the same amount of water, so you'll lose 10-20lbs of water weight, depending on your size
    thats why :wave
    dont eat breakfast?
    cut down on bread pasta?
    added sugar?

    none of that matters, and no your body doesnt know what to do with all the extra cholesterol in food, if you think as humans were evolviing we ate a ton of cholestrol, then why do we make it ? simple fact is, humans didnt have a ton of cholestrol.
    or post your peer reviewed paper on the matter

    you'll find people have a habit of OVERESTIMATING the calories they burn and UNDERESTIMATING how many calories they eat
    the best thing to do is WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU EAT
    calories burned needs to be higher than calories eaten

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
    simple math
    Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
    which is my point about what I said
     
  42. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    seems thats not what test results show
    nor what is shown when I look around america and see a ix of obese, fat, and morbidly obese people

    you saying americans are good at math is like megetting upset when you say Americans are fat
    most Americans are fat
    being fat is the new normal
     
  43. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I see a lot of people fat in the world that are not Americans too. Deal with it.

    Obesity is not related to mathematical intelligence, friend. Maybe it does in your jaded, made up reality, but not in the real world.

    Your arguments are boring me. "Blah, blah, look at me, I can pull up surveys and statistics and look smart bashing Americans because it makes me look cool."

    Math statistics doesn't make people too fat. Lack of exercise, disorders, and over-eating does. You must be googling the wrong sites if you didn't figure that out.

    Maybe use common sense instead next time.

    rolleyes
     
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  44. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest



    You must be smarter than medical doctors, because I have heard this for years from many of them. Cutting out breads, pastas, sugars and artificial sweeteners are a great way to lose weight.

    Are you an M.D.? What are your qualifications to oppose that view?

    Obesity doesn't automatically mean high cholesterol. LOL, do you have any idea what you are talking about?



    I am guessing not considering that you are talking like we invented cholesterol.
     
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  45. watchntv

    watchntv Private E-2

    *yawn*
    still at being wrong, upset about me calling americans "not good at math"?



    overeating is why people are fat, you dont have to exercise or move around at all, if you eat what you burn or less
    simple math

    Im just questioning why not have a package that says "this contains X calories"
    instead of "this contains X *Y calories"

    they made mcdonalds put calories on their hamburger wrappers?
    menus have calories in meals
    so why does the FDA not make calories in food you buy easy to know?
    nothing to do with anything you've said, simply inconsistency,
    http://www.foodfacts.info/blog/uploaded_images/big-mac-box-bottom-lg2.jpg

    why does the link/picture below say 1 servings? why not 88?
    http://pearlsofwisdomconsultingservices.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/nutrition-label.jpg

    you arent answering what I ask
    you are getting upset that I say americans arent good at math compared iwth other nations

    you think you have the answers to why people are fat
    and then tell me well everyone is fat

    ok?
    conjecture about the details of my post is fun for all, but the point of my posts is the same
    why is the nutrion label how it is?

    FDA is paid off...whats more likely to be bought?
    a product that is 20 calories

    10 servings

    or product that is 200 calories


    its been fun for me, but Im done:-D
     
  46. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Why you assume that everything must be consumed at once is ridiculous. I don't know anyone who thinks that because it is a single package, that it is a single serving. Get this: They are ALL American too! They can even tie their shoes!

    Maybe it isn't a math issue at all. Maybe it is you having an issue with reading comprehension. Where are you from? Maybe I can dig up statistics on low reading ability and say your country's citizens aren't very good at reading.

    Sounds as stupid as saying Americans aren't good at math. :-D
     
  47. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    I usually try to stay out of convos that involve mental midgets but I feel I must this time..:-D

    Um, they do. It's this thing called a serving size. For example: If I pick up a loaf of bread and that loaf of bread has 30 slices and 2 slices is 100 calories. It's fairly easy to deduce that each slice has 50 calories, even for this "American who sucks at math" due to my why does the link/picture below say 1 servings? why not 88? [/quote]

    Because normal people only eat one serving at a time? No one in their right mind would eat 88 servings at once unless you are a compulsive over-eater. Then, I'd imagine, you would care less about serving sizes and calorie intake.


    Enough said.
    What's wrong with it? As someone who reads labels every time I buy something, I find it fairly easy to assess.

    I kind of have to agree with you here but not for the reason you think. :-D You should be more concerned with what the FDA allows to be PUT into food, instead of the way it allows labels to be "confusing".

    Cutting out processed/HFCS/fake sugars has helped me lose weight. I'm not going to get into the whole thing but I've done a lot of research and it's amazing how sugars/processed foods affect our bodies.

    Oh stop, your giving me too much credit for being able to try my own shoe! http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy290/lotzasmilies/blush2-1.gif
     
  48. Nedlamar

    Nedlamar MajorGeek

    Ah, not able to think outside the box eh.

    I didn't say "Don't eat breakfast" I said "Eat breakfast".
    I also didn't say no sugar, I said "No Added sugar"
    I also never said "No carbs" , I said "Eat carbs because you need them.
    You really should read replies before jumping on something.


    As I said, I stand here living proof, show me your personal results, not what the government or news tells you. All this information comes from a dietitian who arguably gives you more information than any other info pack.
    Why no bread? because it's got added sugar and can clog your system.
    Pasta is the same thing, it does not digest properly.

    Your ideas are widely proven wrong, sorry but you are wrong, no argument, you are simply wrong.
    You say losing water or whatever, sorry, that's not how I lost weight since I drink around 10 bottles of water per day.
    Half your body weight in Ounces per day.

    If you really want me to I will post info that will take you hours to read that proves all of your points completely wrong and once again I stand here living proof.
    When myself and my wife started this lifestyle change a couple of her friends went on "Low fat" diets, following the magazines and doctors advice, you know what happend?... they put on weight.

    I am thinner, healthier, stronger, more energetic doing what I stated above, you are simply following conventional "Fad" diet information. And all without writing anything down, just by simply living without man made crap.

    Once again, instead of posting links to CNN (because we all trust what the news tells us) how about posting your own personal results from following the CNN link and your own ideas ;)

    I followed the above and the results speak for themselves.

    Basically, eat real food prepared fresh, no chemicals, no ADDED sugar, less wheats and pasta.
    This is simply what people used to eat until all the MSG's and chemicals started being added.

    It seems you are just out for an argument but right here I simply say you are outright wrong and I have physical proof to back mine up, all you have is links. Sorry but actual proof stands streets ahead of .... a link ;)
     
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  50. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    Surely this is not just math but economics.
    Not all people can afford the best quality food and have to resort to using cheaper cut of meat with much more fat content and cheaply made meals that contain fries and fried products.
    In a perfect world we would all eat healthy but this is not a perfect world.
     
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