CISPA Bill Passed in US House

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by gman863, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    If there is still such a thing as privacy left in cyberspace, this could spell the end of it for US Citizens:

    CISPA passes U.S. House: Death of the Fourth Amendment?

    Summary: The controversial cybersecurity Bill has passed the U.S. House and is now on its way to the Senate chamber. Privacy groups believe this tramples on the Fourth Amendment.


    http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-passes-u...th-amendment-7000014205/?s_cid=e540&ttag=e540

    While I support the war on terrorism, my thoughts are this bill goes too far by not requiring a search warrant or probable cause for the government to snoop in everyone's personal business.
     
  2. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    One the most difficult challenges is to draw the line between democracy, freedom, and anarchy.
     
  3. ASUS

    ASUS MajorGeek

    Comrade Obuma and crew doesn't give two Sh#ts about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
    All these Anti-American Communists need to Go...
     
  4. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Do you honestly understand the difference between "Communism", and "Socialism"?

    I'll give you a hint. Under "Communism", you would be waiting in line for the Peoples' shirt, pants, car, and cheese.

    Under "Socialism", as a taxpaying freeholder, you NEVER lose what you have earned to other parties malfeasance.

    Y'dig?

    :major
     
  5. gman863

    gman863 MajorGeek

    This post was not meant to start a flaming debate over the state of the US Government.

    Instead, it should be viewed as a wake-up call to notify your elected officials, ISP and cellular companies to fight against this bill in its current wording. My thought is search warrants should be required to view any personal information, be it online or stored on paper inside your home or office.
     
  6. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Notice how these dodgy intelligence and cyber bills either pass in the middle of the night when no ones paying attention, pass when everyone has their attention somewhere else or pass just after a large public demonstration of the thing they're supposed to fight against?

    If they really wanted a good discussion about what essentially amounts to losing some freedom , wait till everyone has settled down after the Boston tragedy, take deep breath and have some public debate looking at the facts and consequences in the cold light of day.
     
  7. collinsl

    collinsl MajorGeek

    But then they would know they shouldn't pass it, as according to the majority of the people they are supposed to represent.

    Covering up controversial legislation is nothing new. Yes Minister featured it on a few occasions, and I am sure it was around long before then.
     
  8. BoredOutOfMyMind

    BoredOutOfMyMind Picabo, ICU

    The number of bills now passed into law is frightening indeed.
     
  9. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek


    Unfortunately here in the States, the People are not represented by their elected body. Our elected body serves the lobbyists, and big corporate donors first, then maybe the people when they need a vote.

    Unfortunately it's become more about "The Benjamins" (see the Monsanto Act) than it is about being a public servant. It's not all of them, mind you, but those who truly serve the public in our Congress are vastly outnumbered.

    Did you know that the average net worth of a member of Congress is 14.3M dollars in the Senate, and 7M dollars in the House of Representatives?

    Pretty wealthy, for a bunch who make $174k a year, or less. Makes you wonder about all that information they are privy to about the market, before it goes public...
     
  10. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

  11. Spad

    Spad MajorGeek

    Not quite how the good 'ol Webster's defines it, nor in practice how socialism has historically worked out . . . Y'dig? ;)

    But I digress . . .


    This CISPA crap is bad to begin with, and is but a precursor to more legislation I have no doubt. I'm with gman863 on this issue . . . private information should require a warrant, plain and simple.
     

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