restaurants workers and people that plan on working there

Fast food places like Burger king and McDonald's For the past year and a half they have been cutting down every body's hours down to 30 a week.Which is sad and use to be a good place to work or start to work.

But now if you are looking to get lots of money your wrong the stores that are only paying 7.25 an hour you will most likely only be getting about 300$ every two weeks.

Way you may ask it is be cause of that dam Obama Health plan ACT Most places are being cheap pricks which is the nicest word i can say.

I bet a lot of you are seeing this

 

Careful replying to this, otherwise, it can turn into a HBT and will be closed by an admin.

 

Actually, a lot of those places have been cutting back hours for the last decade or so, and they have rarely had a starting wage above federal minimum wage. Most places are turning into "cheap pricks" regardless of who is President. Who works in fast food because they are trying to make "lots of money"??

 

It's not just fast food/restaurants, it's retail places in general. They are always looking to save a buck though low pay/understaffing.

I know from experience.

 

Yes true but there are a lot of main places like fast food and any other places that don't want to pay for the health plain.Last year was not to bad it is only recently i been seeing.

In my area doing this like i said mainly fast food restaurants most of them don't pay higher then 7.25 to may be 7.50 if your lucky.When i worked at BK back in the day 10 years ago i was allowed over 40+ hours and could make 450 dollars every two weeks.But now Bk and other restaurants in and around my area only give about 30 hours a week.And only make about 300 dollars every two weeks this is not enough to live on.

And main reason way companies like them are cheap pricks and don't want to pay for the health care act.

Now it is like that any more you basically need to get a 2nd job just to even support your self.Or find a job that pays at lest 9.00s or higher 7.25 is total crap any more and on top of that food cost seems to be going up this year.

I worked at BK this year for like a year and this is how i know this.It was temp any way but after getting yelled at bye GM trying to blame shit on me when i was not even there for 4 years i just up and quit and found another job that pays 9.00s an hour and i get 4 hours in 4 days 12 hour shifts.

Places like fast food is good for like temp job extra money but not practical any more.

I had a fight with my GM on the last day who was blaming me for shit that was not even my fault be cause i was not there for four years.And they just had an inspection done.So basically i told her to go **** off if she want's to treat people like dirt.I hope it shuts down.

I no i am ranting but this is how it will most likely be till another president over rids the dam obama health care act.Which is total bull shit.

 

"Basic Economics" http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-Common-Sense-Economy/dp/0465002609 Might be an interesting book for general Economics.

Not trying to get to HBT, (mods, please feel free to delete this if I am going too far) but when you increase the cost of something, people generally do less of it. Whether it is taxes, or labor costs.

I think a lot of people will really enjoy the new heath care stuff when they have to start buying their own insurance, or pay a fine to the IRS. :-D

 

clairvoyant Tim??

The post after yours hurt even worse.:hammer

 

I tried to quote Goldenskull, but it hurt too much.

Here's the thing...companies have always been cheap, and have always kicked and screamed every time a cost of doing business goes up, be it minimum wage, health care requirements, or the cost of a paper bag. Companies always blame their astronomical increase in prices on whatever boogeyman is currently in vogue.

The bottom line is, companies are inherently cheap. If they can produce something at a cost of $1 and sell it for $20, they make a huge profit. If their cost increases to $1.50, they raise their selling price to $30 and scream about how the added cost of doing business is ruining them.

If companies can get away with paying less in wages and giving no benefits to their employees, that's what they're going to do. Fast food has never been a practical option for making money, unless you're in high school. Minimum wage is nowhere near what a person would need to make in order to actually survive in today's economy...hasn't been since about 1950. The new health care act is just the latest in a long line of "reasons" why companies are scaling back and treating their employees worse.

 

There's also this funny little thing called "supply and demand."

If fast food places and retail stores can fill open positions at minimum wage (such as areas with high unemployment), they have no incentive to give raises or offer benefits.

Other than government intervention, the only thing that will raise wages is a labor shortage. As an example, a few months after Hurricane Katrina, even unskilled construction laborers in the damaged areas could get hired on-the-spot at starting wages of up to $20/hour. This forced chains like McDonald's and Burger King to raise their starting wages as high as $12/hour just to keep their restaurants open.

 

I agree with most of this paragraph, minimum wage is not enough to raise a family, more qualifications might allow you to earn more. But, do you also agree that consumers will try to 'get away with paying less in prices' they will do it?

Consumers... treating corporate and low paid people like crap every day, cause they want a cheaper hard drive or a cheaper burger. Why you not want to pay more for your consumer items to help the 'workers'?

:-D:-D

 

I keep looking at this. What does this even mean? I get that you get paid $9.00 per hour. It looks like you work 12-hour shifts. But what on earth does the whole sentence mean when put together? I can't fathom "I get 4 hours in 4 days" no matter how I try to come at it.

 

I do actually prefer to pay more for goods or services from companies in order to help their workers (particularly to those companies I know are already treating their workers well), but then I know I'm in the minority.

People are their own worst enemies, no doubt about it. And I don't see how anything I said before you mentioned going HBT could do so...my statement was purely about companies claiming the cost of doing business was ruining them, it had nothing whatsoever to do with a specific cause. The cause could easily be health care. It could also be environmental regulation, cost of raw materials, employee wages, property taxes, or anything else. Just because the original (misguided, in my opinion) blame in this thread was placed on health care reform doesn't mean that's the only cause I confined myself to. :-D

 

Let the corrupt IRS come after me. I don't have a job. :-D

I think he meant 48 hours and left out the 8 because 12 x 4 = 48

 

Thank you!!! That makes sense! I felt like I was doing one of those word puzzles on a math test in grade school. LOL

 

The HBT part would be my response I think, if I did not self edit. And props to you for putting your $ for better companies. Again, that whole supply and demand thingy. I also spend more at one local food place, the chicken tacos are to die for, one waitress has her child there in a stroller. I think she is using the kid for extra tips, works for me anyway. :-D I get my cheap food, give a decent tip, we all win, evil capitalism at it's best err or at it's worse?

 

NSA has noted your non compliance. They will notify the IRS, and then you will be sorry. :-D

Oh, and the NSA phrase of the day is: "Tora Tora Taco!" :-D

 

I used to be a manager/mangler at a Pizza Hut almost 20 years ago. You were damn lucky to get more than 30 hours unless you were management. Back then it was all minimum wage too.


As mentioned, this is nothing new.

 

Did you hear about the NSA's new customer service theme? "You talk, we listen."

 

I used to deliver for Pizza Hut, got around 40 hours or so, then moved to a locally owned pizza place, had no problem with hours, overtime was not a big deal. Was a long time ago. Tip the delivery person! :cool


MMM, pizza....:-D

Honestly, at Pizza Hut, I might have been getting 30 hours, don't remember. Had no problem with OT at the local pizza joint, if I wanted to work it.

 

I still can't eat Pizza Hut food.

 

Oh I hate those!! Who actually uses them in real life anyway?? :-D

The IRS is too busy trying to not look as criminal as they are. They aren't worried about me... yet. :-D

Dang it. Now I want some pizza. LOL

Yea back in the day, I was a manager at a video store and made like .30 cents more than the CSRs who made minimum wage. Big woop. lol

They didn't seem to care if I (or the other 2 managers) had overtime (sometimes I/we would work up 60 hours in a week) but cared if the CSR's did. Made no sense to me.

 

Your cavalier attitude is noted. :-D And what is criminal about them?

 

Local chain has the 'take and bake' pizza. They make it, you take it home and cook it... I can finally get my pizza cooked like I want it... And no 20 mins or so off in some delivery guys bag.

I am very picky about my pizza crust. :cool

 

They purposely targeted Tea Party applications seeking tax exempt status, making it harder or impossible to get said status because of their affiliation.

That's kind of illegal... :-D

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ongress-irs-tea-party-restructutring/2422963/

 

We buy crust and separate components. So yummy!

 

Stop talking about pizza unless someone is willing to produce me a pizza.

:-D:-D

 

Call Pizza Hut.

 

That doesn't really help. I still have to put forth effort, and money. :-D

 

They would not do that! Bordering on HBT to me, so I will just kick back and watch the liberal fun happen. Cause, liberalism is fun. :cool

 

Oh but they did AND they got caught doing it! :-D


That's all I'll say so we don't get off too far on that topic.

 

Uh huh, like many things, they do it, but it does not get reported. I will leave it at that as well.

 

FUN FACT - Its really hard to buy pizza for someone remotely, i tried to buy one for a friends birthday, and no one would let me, because i couldn't show the driver the card used to purchase it and or sign the receipt.

 

I can order pizza for delivery from several places around here and pay by debit card... Another wonder of da interwebs. :-D

 

I'm surpried the major chains haven't started accepting PaPal. Home Depot already takes it, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch for PayPal to get on board with Domino's or Pizza Hut.

 

Fred, you mis understand me, i can do that locally too, but say i wanted to buy dymond a pizza with my credit card and have it delivered to her address. Unless its changed recently, pizza hut and domino's and several other places wouldn't let you in another state pay for her pizza.

 

Ahh, did not realize you were a national pizza buyer. I will email you the local pizza place's info, and you can try to send me one. I like pepperoni, thin crust, bricked. :-D:-D I know they were taking out of state CC's years ago. They even deliver UPS next day. (uncooked pizza's in dry ice).

Odd, I would think the chain pizza places would do it over the web, and would not care where you are as long as the CC is good.

 

Whatever you think of your respective government we are still in a global recession and everybody is having their pay and hours cut, it has nothing to do with ANY single policy, piece of legislation or politician even if they were in power at the time. As far as I'm concerned anyone who uses the current state of the economy as justification for or against an individual or policy is letting their ideology over ride reality.

Whenever there is trouble the right goes fascist and the left goes communist, neither are good and we should be very wary of accepting any extreme position until the economy has recovered, most extreme detrimental ideologies germinated in the shadow of war or recession.

Think that's all I have to say, vote safe kids:cool

 

Read up on the things you are voting for, or against, and vote! :cool

 

I'm talking about statistics and averages across the world, the state of the global economy, people are rioting.

It's not helpful or truthful to pick one example in on place to make a point, if you disagree that the world isn't in or recovering from a global recession then there's not much I can say to convince you:-D

I guess if you guys are doing great in the South Obama's spending plan is working:-D

I'm out.

 

Note your post, note definitions of words. Let's deal with that, then move forward. You said "everybody is having their pay and hours cut". Not some, not the average, but everyone. Then, you back away from that, stating one example does not prove that "everyone" is making less money. I admit, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but you seem to be contradicting yourself. I also stated myself (hopefully in the near future will be doing better) but also others are doing better, which directly contradicts your statement that "all" are making less, getting hours cut.

And if facts contradict your statement, how is that "not helpful"?

I will admit, bo's spending seems to be going well for him. :-D


Facts are not racist or political. They are just what they are, facts. How we interpret, and deal with these facts and emotions, in my opinion, will be critical in how the US economy will go in the future.

A global recession, I agree. Whether we are recovering or doubling up on stupid would be probably a HBT topic.

 

Fred it's just too tiring.

Your disagreeing with me over something called 'semantics.' or the meaning of words.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics

You are arguing that my use of the word everybody should be taking literally meaning every human being on the planet your then using a 'straw man' which means your basing your argument "that some people in the world are getting pay rises" on a misrepresentation of what you think I said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_argument

You should give me the benefit of the doubt that I don't mean every single human being on the planet, furthermore even after I've told you and I quote

You still want argue your point that I should't have used the word 'everybody'

By doing this your also removing words and quotes from context which is a general loose statement not directed at anyone or with any real punch and going over it with a fine tooth comb looking for mistakes, so you either want an argument or are playing devils advocate.

I contradicted myself on purpose jokingly and put a laughing smiley next it, I hope that explains that.

You also accused me of having the blinders on by not seeing cause and effect, I have no idea what your talking about or what I've said to warrant such an insult:confused Please though, I don't want to know.

I really don't want a discussion.

Thanks.

 

People riot for many reasons, none seem very logical to me.

 

No problem, won't bring it up again Rikky. Hope you have a great weekend.

 

Actually, my friend's dad called and ordered a pizza for her (from at least 10 states away) because she had broken her foot the day before. She just got home the hosp when she realized that not only did she have no food in the house but that she had left her wallet at work and couldn't go out to get either her wallet or food ( not only because her driving foot was broken but because her car was still parked at the hosp) and he was successful in getting a pizza to her house.

I guess it really depends on who you call.

 

I find the best tactic is to order the pizza first, the bigger the order the better and then tell them where you live. I live just on the edge of the main domino's and pizza hut zones which I think is about 6 miles in the uk, most peoples drive is longer than that in the US.:-D If you ask do they deliver here they often say no.

You do pay for it as well, in the UK for example if I ordered a 14 inch the pizza it will cost £20 which is $30US at current exchange rates.

 

When I slung pizzas, you had to get the phone number and address before you could take an order. Software required it.

Mmm pizza... :-D