First Full Day Of CHL

I have had my concealed carry for a while. Usually keep the gun in my car, sometimes wear it for a quick trip to the store. After a weekend in Texas, carrying a gun most of the time helping at a gun class, I decided to go for it.

I have permission to carry at work, so, I did. It is, interesting. As far as I know, nobody knew I had the gun on me. I am really digging the Dynamic Research Tech frangible bullets, 24 85 grain bullets vs 24 115 grain bullets make a difference in carry comfort.

 

George Zimmerman complex?:-D:-D

Hopefully not with the same result.

 

You may find my door locked in the event of a zombie attack.

Why do I want to carry a gun? Well, it is my 2A right, and like it or not, there are bad people in the world.

I might ask why you would not want to carry a gun around with the flash mobs, and violence in many large cities? Do you pay for home fire insurance because you know you will need it, or just because you might?

Really, let's be mature here. I know when to present my firearm. And following people in my hood is not the reason.

I have used a firearm to prevent a burglary attempt in the past.

 

You don't want the option of a gun if this is going on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX-CeN6W5Mg

Note, I said option.

 

Wow, just tried on the 1911 with a sweet leather holster. Very comfortable. Will be sporting the .45 Thursday. Hard to believe how much more comfortable the leather holster is.

 

Laura, you might want to read this: http://www.twistedwiretactical.com/Twistedwire/Book_Club_files/Principles_of_Self_Defense.pdf

40 something page book by Col Jeff Cooper. A good read, whether you choose to arm yourself or not.

From Mr. Cooper's book.

 

Amazing how I tend to get off topic in my own threads. :-D The leather holster was much more comfortable than the compact 9mm in a paddle holster. Will try the Colt Commander in a kydex holster Friday. It is interesting how the different holster styles can 'hide' a larger gun.

Besides the trigger, the only other thing I don't like about the S&W M&P 9c is it is unnecessarily wide.

 

I had to read this, because honestly the only thing I could think of was...Fred joined the Canadian Hockey League? Did I miss something? :-D

 

LOL Sgt. Tibbs, you and I think alike. I was thinking the Central Hockey League though, not Canadian.

 

It hurts my brain whenever anything mentions, "zombies". OR walking dead or anything about them or their friends(vampires)

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4280523264/hF279B0B6/

 

Yeah, hockey is real big in the south... :-D I guess a better title would have been CC instead of CHL, Concealed Carry vs Concealed Handgun License.

After doing this for a few days with different gun and holsters, I can say this: Kydex is great for training/classes and mag pouches. Leather is much more comfortable to carry.

So far, nobody has been harmed. I will have to investigate the law as it pertains to establishments that sell alcohol.

 

OK, after more time, I have found what works for me and what does not work. Actually feel kinda naked without a firearm on my side.

And the gun has been presented 0 times, used 0 times.

 

Fred_G, I saw this and thought of you about the Knockout game
and a guy getting hit(not knocked out) and him putting 2 bullets into the attackers butt.

me to it: http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/11/...o-a-new-level/


They mention near the end one legislator proposing to make such assaults a felony with a 25-year sentence. I would also add complete criminal and civil immunity for anyone defending themselves or others in such attacks.

 

They use a Goth steam punk weiner.

 

In my opinion, it should be a serious felony. Some people have been killed. Defending against is is very hard, as the point of 'knockout' is to just randomly hit someone in the head. Situational awareness is a help to prevent this, but it is hard to know what is going on 360 degrees around you all the time.

And shooting them (assuming you are not knocked out) while they run away is not legal. At least that is my understanding of Louisiana law. You can shoot to prevent certain crimes, but not after the crime is committed.

Although the 'knockout game' seems to be more popular in places with stricter gun control laws.

But, this guy with a concealed gun won this round of 'knockout'. http://newsone.com/2787594/marvell-weaver-shot-knockout-game/ Your link did not work, is this what you were talking about?

 

This.

Also this. I bring with me katanas, far above average coking skills, and a serious talent for first aid and bandaging activities. May I come in?

 

Heck yeah, blades don't run out of bullets... :-D

 

Yes that was the link.

I'm really tired of sending people to jails. If I was on a jury and the case before me was a person who was "knocked down" via knockout game, and he shot the perp, I wouldn't convict him at all.

Prisons are big business and taxpayers are paying for prisoners to enjoy life in prison.
Even the healthcare site issue, cost the taxpayers lots of money. who pays for them to constantly mess stuff up? We do.

I watch those documentaries where they send the serial killer/etc who they know killed usually 3+ people for sure, yet they get sentenced to years/life in prison, rarely the death penalty.
While in prison, they are costing people who work for a living money to live, or to appeal their sentence (those on death row especially) tons of times, and their crimes are so bad their sentence is so long, they will never get out.
so why are we paying to keep convicted killers alive?

Our judicial system is as screwed up as the American view that no one is at fault for their own choices.

 

Don't get me started about our judicial, legislative and executive branches. :-D:-D:-D

 

I'm sorry, shooting like that is self-defense. You have no idea what they're going to do after you're unconscious and unable to defend yourself.

And given the nature of head injuries, it's not simple assault. It's assault with intent.

You're right, we shouldn't get into that.

I agree, it's hard to go without one once you've carried. It just feels like you're missing something. I'd rather be without a wallet.

 

Kinda a catch 22. You can't just shoot someone cause they are looking at you funny, but if knocked out, you may die if you head hits the curb. The knockout game is a hard one to defend against.

Walking around texting or talking on you cell might make you more attractive than someone who is looking around, using some SA.

 

This might deserve a new thread. But a question for the blade mistress. Mimsy, what do you think of these curved blades? I am thinking one might be in my future.

http://www.himalayan-imports.com/khuk1.html

Or possibly a Himalayan Katana http://www.himalayan-imports.com/sword.html

Leaning more towards the khukuri

 

Very true. Of course even if you're alert and attentive you can still be snuck up on. I suspect that the extra defense provided by the heavier winter hats will lead to more people not being knocked out and more people getting caught.

 

Very interesting point. Down here, usually a ball cap is all that is worn, but I guess up in NY, they might dress up a bit more. What really bothers me is if someone got hit, then started shooting at kids running away. While a serious crime was committed, shooting at retreating people is usually illegal, and might injure bystanders.

 

I would say it depends on what you want it for. I am partial to katanas mainly because I've had some training with them, and I like how they handle and feel when I swing them.

The khukuri is a masterpiece though, just of a different kind. The shape of the blade makes perfect sense if you stop and think about it for a moment, and it has a weird asymmetrical beauty all its own.

So what do you plan to use them for?

 

Cause I can? :-D

Honestly, for a Katana, I think Japanese made. The khukuri, I would get just to have. I like the story behind the makers of the khukuri.

I love blades. Got a 1765 CutCo knife in a homemade sheath. One of my prized possessions.

I collect them. The best blade is one with a story, that does not break the bank.

 

My daughter has sword training.

 

Sounds like fun, but I am getting older. I got gun training.

If I were to get back into martial arts, I would just get back into the hand to hand. Nothing wrong with some sword lessons though.

 

Then what other reason do you need?

 

Well, I have been good this year... :-D Still waiting to see if I can buy a 1911 Colt Commander. Will have to get the gun before I get the sword.

 

I did larping slash Nero for 10 years i have sword training 10 years worth.

 

I Googled that, got playlists. What is it?

 

LARP = Live Action Role Playing

Think of it as impromptu theater if you're not familiar with table-top RPGs. If you are, then LARP is simply when you dress up as your character and act out the actions and plot together. It usually takes place somewhere appropriate to the setting. Opera houses for vampires, oldcastle ruins for fantasy-LARP, etc.

 

OK, thanks for the info. Don't see any way shape or fashion how RP is related to carrying a pistol, but thread drift can be fun.

 

I always wanted to own a gun, but unfortunately not really in my price range at the moment. Perhaps I could "conceal carry" airsoft?

 

Might even be able to carry it without a permit. But would not work out very well for you if you got in a gunfight with a real gun. :-D

 

It's not. Those who really are into it tend to practice a lot with swords though.

 

I practice a lot with guns. Dry work is good stuff.:-D

 

Dry work feels too much like playing. And guns are not toys. And yes, I'm aware of all the arguments for it. I just find it's too easy to get into the 'oh it's not loaded' mentality and that's fatal.

 

You have to take dry work just as serious as shooting. My dry press 'target' is a 'safe' one. If I were to mess up and have a negligent discharge, the bullet would have to pass through 4 walls, and A/C unit, closet with a couple of coats in it, then into a wooded area. Some guns (Glock) require you to dry fire them to field strip them for cleaning.

Dry practice can also be done at the range. If the indoor range is crowded and loud, I often start with some dry presses. Or if my groups start getting to far apart. It is almost always the trigger press that messes up my shooting.

And safety is important, no live ammo is allowed in my dry practice area, all guns are double checked EVERY time they are picked up for dry practice. One nice thing about the .45, you can stick your little finger into the chamber to make sure it is not loaded, so you visually ensure there is no magazine in the gun, nothing in the chamber.

With my 9mm, the magazine is used for the grip. This was an issue. I removed the magazine spring and magazine follower from one magazine. This is my dry practice mag. This again allows visual and physical confirmation the gun is not loaded. Even if you tried to put ammo in the mag, it ain't gonna load it.

To keep my proficiency at the level I feel is safe to carry a gun in public, I need more than just the occasional trip to the range. :cool

But, if you don't feel you are able to practice safely, then don't do it.

 

Triaxx, you do bring up a good point. Proper dry practice is not going around like a kid with a toy gun, doing unsafe things because "it ain't loaded". And I am not saying you would do that either.

Proper dry practice takes some planning. This thread is not meant to be a gun safety lesson, or a thread on how to dry practice. If you don't know how to do it, find an instructor. Or, if you don't feel you can do it safely, don't do it or just do it at a gun range. :cool

 

You yanks are gun mad, why, the UK public don't carry guns, neither do our local police, if you got rid of the guns crime would fall, and to hell with 2A it was written at a time when you were slaughtering the native Indians, now you have killed most of them you don't need guns, they didn't help you when 911 happened. you sure were running scared then.

 

How dare you! That statement transcends any discussion about gun control. That statement is nothing but insult to me and my country. I fought for my country - did you? If so, then you should have learned a lesson about humility. If not, then maybe you should learn some manners.

I am sorry, but I cannot abide rudeness in a man.

 

Lack of freedom is kinda why we had that little war way back then. :cool

 

Jeez, I am so glad I am not a butt up Londonistan Brit.:-D

 

I have owned handguns for over 20 years.

Negligent discharges 0.
Crimes prevented 1. (no shots fired)
People shot by my guns 0.
People I have drawn my gun on 0.
Crimes committed by me with a firearm 0.

Who is the problem?

And sorry for skirting the boundaries of HBT here.

To paraphrase my favorite pistol instructor, there are two types of people. Both see a violent crime being commited. One person says, "OMG, I can't believe this is happening!"

The other says "I thought something like this might happen...".

I am all about options. The gun is a tool. It has it's uses. It is not the only tool I have.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I can see where you're coming from, but just because one law seems to work in one country doesn't mean that law will work in a different country with a totally different culture and history. In Japan, they understand and accept their strict gun laws because of history and culture (and it works!) but if you tried to implement those gun laws in the U.S. it wouldn't get very far past being written down before people started freaking out about it and the idea was shelved forever.