Dropped My Laptop - Which Tests Should I Run To Assure It's Fine?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by superstar, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. superstar

    superstar Major-Superstar

    Unfortunately I placed my one + a half year old 15" MacBook Pro laptop on a new tilted notebook cooler (that has no grip), & sat them both on my computer chair while in use. To my recollection I only had the YouTube homepage open without any video playing, and Dropbox was downloading some small photo files to my laptop intermittently (that I was uploading from my iPhone at the time). I walked away and it suddenly all fell from a height of 2 feet. When I looked they were both sitting on the floor. The screen was in the same position I had it in (so it likely didn't land display first), & the notebook cooler was sitting to the left of it still connected via USB. I'm not sure that the soft notebook cooler broke it's fall (see attached photo), but it's crazy how it all landed flat as of it were being placed side by side on a table. The usb cord from the cooler didn't even yank itself out at all. My room is carpeted, but nonetheless I freaked out because it's a fairly new MacBook Pro, with a brand new 750GB Western Digital Black series 7200rpm sata hard drive (that I had just installed a couple months ago). The hard drive is obviously of importance to me since it carries a lot of my recent project/work files.

    Luckily I have the original internal hard drive that initially came with my system. It contains all of the files I would have had a couple months back in working order. It's now in an external USB enclosure, because I had used Carbon Copy Cloner to migrate/backup an exact image of everything (data & OS) from my original drive, to my newer Western Digital hard drive - prior to installing it 2 months ago.

    The first thing I did was inspect my laptop on the outside. I can tell you that surprising as it is there is absolutely no damage clear to the human eye that I can see on the exterior body. From what I've heard the MacBook Pro shell is actually made out of a solid piece of aluminum. The hinge when you move the screen still feels the same as it did before too. I have quite the computer skills background, so I opened the case up just to give it a glace over with my magnifying glasses headset and a flashlight. I looked at the motherboard over and over for about an hour to double, and triple check that there was no damage to the motherboard (ie: cracks, broken solder, bent usb port that was in use during the fall, etc). From what I saw there was absolutely no damage to the important parts of the laptop. I had opened up the case before, and it looked pretty much the same... The only thing I noticed damaged, were the 3 screw holes that hold the laptop battery in place (one is under a black leftside sticker). Such a minor crack on each of the plastic screw holes (on the plastic battery body, not the aluminum laptop case). They were very minor cracks yet still in place, you'd have to look closely to see them. Now I can't remember well, but I think the last time I opened the case months ago they may have already been like that. & I may have just left it as they were. If so the damage could have been caused by over screwing at the factory. I'm not sure, but if not the fall may have caused it. So I took the battery out and super glued the screw holes back to the battery body properly (see attached photo). I could not, and would not disassemble the MacBook Pro motherboard, & other device pieces for a more thorough check over a 2 foot fall. I just don't think it's warranted to do so, being that everything else on the underside seems to be fine to the naked eye. I guess it would be going overboard...

    A quick factoid:

    Apparently my MacBook Pro has a feature called SMS (Sudden Motion Sensor). The Sudden Motion Sensor is designed to detect unusually strong vibrations, sudden changes in position, and accelerated movement. If the sensor detects any of these, it instantly parks the hard drive heads to help reduce the risk of damage to the hard drive in case of impact. When the SMS senses that the computer's position is once again stable, it unlocks the hard drive heads and returns to normal operation. In general, SMS protection does not change hard disk performance with regular operation.
    Also my new internal Western Digital Black series hard drive specifically states on their website to having "Rock-solid Mechanical Architecture." With enhanced reliability features help protect the drive and the data stored on it. As well as "NoTouch Ramp Load technology" - The recording head never touches the disk media ensuring significantly less wear to the recording head and media as well as better drive protection in transit. Although I don't know if these Western Digital features apply to normal operating hdd use while powered on, or just when you have your laptop powered off (eg: parked head position when shutdown).

    I called Western Digital since the hard drive has a 5 year warranty (unheard of). & I asked them if they had any software to diagnose the drive beyond Disk Utility's simple "SMART" status info in Mountain Lion's Mac OS X 10 (which showed up okay by the way). Anyways Western Digital does have software to do a thorough SMART test, and surface scan checking for Windows (which I have used before on my other pcs in the past). But they don't have one for Mac, and he suggested I take the hard drive out, then pop it in a pc to scan it. But I'm not even sure a pc would recognize the disk being that it's formatted differently in comparison to the pc standard of NTFS. I believe he said to reformat it as NTFS, but that would defeat the purpose of a faster scanning method, and leaving it as is.

    So now what I'd like to do is use a program I found called "TechTool Pro 7." I'll install it to the original hard drive that came with my MacBook Pro (that's now in my external usb enclosure), and use it to run every possible scan on my MackBook Pro to make sure everything that appears to be okay - actually is. But most importantly to run a thorough SMART test, and surface scan on the newer internal hard drive that experienced the fall. Since TechTook Pro 7 does have the ability to do so on any drive. Ya, believe it or not newer Mac's don't have a surface scan feature in the OS. Remember the external usb hard drive is an exact 1:1 image of my working MacBook Pro a couple months back. So I should be able to boot off it, and install the program onto it. Of course I'd be turning off my Wi-Fi during TechTool Pro 7 use, to avoid any unrelated software updates from other programs while scanning.

    I need to run a surface scan on this drive asap, and I will. Now I know this is a Mac, and I'll get the dreaded "Oh why'd you buy a Mac, you should have just bought a gold brick if you're spending" response. But seriously, computers are computers. I'd appreciate it if you guys would give me general things I should do to test all of my laptops hardware to determine if everything is alright or not. I know first thing that will come to mind will be pc software that may not be available for Mac's. But that's okay, let me know what type of things I should test since all that differs is operating systems, the hardware is generally alike. I'll find Mac versions of similar software if I have to, in order to test it all out.


    Let me know what to look for... & how I should go about using my laptop for the next month or so. I will probably be doing tests on it every two weeks just to make sure it's okay until Spring hits. If everything is fine then, well it should be good - and have survived the impact well enough.


    Thank You MajorGeeks & Happy New Year


    P.s.
    If anybody knows what type of drop tolerance a hard drive can take (and survive) while in use let me know.
     

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    Last edited: Jan 5, 2014
  2. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    According to the attached spec sheet, the WD drive can handle shock values of 350 Gs for 2ms operating and 1,000 Gs for 2ms non-operating.

    Adrynalyne can better assist you with the Mac environment. But have you tried using the laptop since it was dropped? When you opened the case, was everything seated including the RAM?
     

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  3. superstar

    superstar Major-Superstar

    How would this relate to the fall my laptop experienced? Sorry I'm not too up on G shock values and stuff like that. Are you saying the hard drive withstood the fall? I'm looking at knowing more about the overall health of the drive after this accident. So I don't trust my data to it in the future if I shouldn't do so!
     
  4. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    In laymen's terms, it can handle a hefty fall and not have a head crash. Even moreso if the machine is off.

    Honestly, I think you are probably fine. The carpet would have absorbed a lot of the impact, and Apple solders a lot of their components together now, making things impossible to loosen over time. This would also help with it falling.

    Basically what S.M.S. does is it detects sudden motion and stops the hard drive immediately. Coupled with these newer drives and how hardy they are, you are mostly protected from falls unless its hard enough to break the chassis.

    I've worked on laptops that have fallen and didn't have an accelerometer to protect the hard drive. It isn't pretty. While the drive didn't die immediately, S.M.A.R.T. reported imminent drive failure, and sure enough, it failed right after I backed it up. This drop literally cracked the chassis though, which my mom thoughtfully used duct tape to hold it together...LOL.

    The only tests I would run would be:

    S.M.A.R.T.
    Surface scan if you need to (doubt it). Onyx does preliminary hard disk checks on startup.
    A memory test to make sure it didn't knock a DIMM loose.

    I know it is nerve-wracking, but I think you are fine. 2 feet to carpet is pretty minor compared to some of the falls I've seen.

    I have a 2005 Powerbook that took about a 2 foot fall to the carpet when I first got it (I wanted to cry after dropping 2.5k to buy it). The only thing that happened (it still runs today), is a ram stick went bad, which might have been coincidence, and the magnetic latch to keep the lid close broke off because of the impact. Today's MacBooks aren't built with those latches anymore, so that isn't an issue.
     
  5. superstar

    superstar Major-Superstar

    How did the hard drive fair in your machine that dropped over time?
    Thanks for the real informative response. I keep hearing about some type of "Apple Hardware Test" program, but don't know how to access it or do it on a Macbook Pro. If you might know please tell me. The google checks I've found refer to desktop type Apple computers, I see no mention of Macbook Pro use.
     
  6. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Not sure about Apple Hardware Test. The last time I saw or heard of any Apple tests was OS X 10.3, and that was in...2004?

    My Powerbook that I dropped 7? years ago is still going strong. Only had a ram stick go bad.

    I found this, which mentions it is on laptops too, and how to access it:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509
     
  7. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It would take considerably more than a 2-3 foot drop onto carpet to damage the drive. However, that drop may have dislodged other connections. That's why I asked if you made sure everything was seated when you opened up the laptop.
     
  8. JonnyBB878

    JonnyBB878 Private E-2

    About a month ago an old laptop I currently have fell more or less from same height and there was no carpet. It's still up and running to this day.

    I understand you're worried (I would be too), but I wouldn't go very as far as regular 2 weeks tests.

    At best give your hard drive a surface scan, it's the most vulnerable (second to the screen) in your entire system since it's a moving component and check if any of the other components got loose.

    Beyond that I'd just keep using it normally. I've heard of cases where laptops fell from higher heights and they're still working fine.

    Honestly I wouldn't worry too much.
     
  9. superstar

    superstar Major-Superstar

    I did check the connections when I opened the case and everything seemed to be seated correctly. I'm also happy to announce that I ran a surface scan on the internal hard drive that experienced the fall using TechTool Pro 7 & it came out fine with absolutely no bad blocks. The scan took approximately two hours to complete. However I did notice a couple of items lagging behind in the graphical SMART test chart for the same drive.

    Guys let me know if you think it's something to worry about. See the attached photo.
     

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  10. superstar

    superstar Major-Superstar

    Anyone get a chance to check out my last post? Remember it's a Western Digital drive... Thanks
     
  11. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Spin up will be vary, so that is fine.

    Temperature is safe, but it rises as you use the drive, plus its a laptop. So nothing to worry about.
     
  12. superstar

    superstar Major-Superstar

    I'll trust anyone with a penguin avatar anyday! & I mean that in a polite way btw.

    Thanks man
     

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