phrases you wish would go away

This thread is the opposite of my "phrases I like" thread
http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=272776

what are words/phrases you wish people would stop using?
1.-Honestly(so you have been lying to me the rest of the time?)

2.-I guess(you either know what you want or you don't, no one knows better than you)
3.-you know( I know what exactly?)
4.-Sorry if you were offended(if you were sorry, you wouldnt have said it, ie You don't punch someone in the face and say, "sorry for punching you" and think you are in the clear, or I'd be punching people nearly constantly)

5.-I’m starving(you mean you're hungry, starving implies you missed many more than one meal)
6.-PERSONALLY--watch how this means nothing, "I like tacos" Vs "personally, I like tacos" It has the same meaning, so why add "personally"?
7.-any phrase with the word,"epic"
8. -It is what it is"(I didn't realize we were in a dispute over what reality is)
9-THAT"S TRUE
I might be in a debate or argument with someone.
I will say a fact.
they will say, "That's true!"

as if I need their dumbass to confirm the fact I just said?

 

Whatever.













:-D

 

wut
:wave

 

Anywho...

 

Word.

 

no you didnit!

 

You go, girlfriend!

 

At the end of the day. 'hear this a lot in the UK.'

It's actually the actual.

Your a good un 'North UK speak.'

Anything about the weather.

All due respect.

Note to self, stop saying anywho :-D

 

you have to train people to treat you how you want.

 

is that a phrase people tell you ? Its actually just a fact of life.

 

I guess, if you see people as dogs.

 

sometimes people are dogs...are you trying to sell the idea that people are rational and logical all the time?

 

That doesn't make them a lower being, heh.

 

HA HA
Who is talking about making anyone anything?
you have a daughter? right?
when you tell your child something positive, does that make her want to do it better, happy?
What if you tell her something negative, how does that affect her behavior?

so what you say to someone affects their behavior. IE you can train them to act a certain way.

I knew a women who had a small boy and when she would tell him to do something, it was likely he would moan and groan about doing it.
she would start counting 5
4
3
2
and every-time before she got to 1, he would do what she asked him to do.
She had trained him to do what she said, or face punishment.

Training can go both ways though: The child will try to train you:
You are checking out at a store and your child grabs a candy bar and throws it in the cart.
you don't say anything, you buy the candy.

what do you think is going to happen next time you are at a checkout lane?
likely the child will get more candy.
but what if the 1st time the child through the candy in the cart, you smacked him? or yelled at him?
Think the next time the kid would throw candy in the cart?

Yeah, training only applies to non-humans..still thinking that?

 

See, this is why you piss people off and it makes people dislike you. You can't seem to make a proper discussion without some snarky response somewhere in it. I guess you weren't trained correctly in that aspect.

 

Dislike that first and last names are used as slang words.

 

I couldn't have asked for a better example of training.

Seeing as you won't comment on the rest of my post, I will comment on what you did comment on.

See, I made valid points to back up my point in my posts. The reason for my Nelson Muntz quote was only in response to your

See, this is you training me in how to respond to you.

 

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/heh
In other words, I was not amused with your usage of the phrase.

You using the word 'train' in regards to behavior implies negative connotations and is not used with humans, but rather with animals who do not have higher brain functions like we do.

This is typical though, because much of what you post comes off as haughty, rude, and snobbish. Maybe you can 'train' yourself as you put it, and talk to people instead of down to them. You are not superior to anyone here.


Also:
Going HA HA to someone just shows that you are acting like an ***.

That is not training, that is just common sense.

 

Yay your winning!:tired

People repeat crap they hear 'even me' , we post some that we're sick of hearing, we're amused for a few seconds.

Not rocket science.

 

"Irregardless" - the word even triggers the spellcheck function.

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As far as training goes, here in the South we've been trained to not talk about another man's daughter, especially in a lounge (we call them "watering holes") - all sorts of things might get shot back at you. Beer cans, bottles, bullets or worse.

Thought I'd get that in before this thread gets disappeared.

 

In some circles, circumcision with a sword occurs...whether needed or not.

 

I hate when people use the word supposably instead of supposedly.

 

That was not how I used the word, "train", as I gave in my few examples. Yet you think that only lower animals can be trained? So you say I should be trained? So either you are trying to insult me or your remark about "what the word,"train" implies is wrong.

Id appreciate specifics, as vague generalizations provide no key for me to understand what you mean that I talk down to people on here.

Yes, I felt the same way with your HEH comment.
Yet, My comment was from the Simpson's, so I thought it was funny and showed my frustration at the same time.

 

As clear as it was in the post, I tried to help Adrynalyne understand the concept I was talking about by references his life. If I knew he owned a unicorn I would have used that.

The object makes no difference, everything is ??? I want to say trainable, but Adrynalyne said that word refers to lower animals. so what word should I use to mean be taught X leads to Y? When a husband brings his wife candy, she gets put into a good mood. so he has learned to bring her candy when she is unhappy and she has learned she can manipulate him to get her candy

so manipulate?

control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly, unfairly, or unscrupulously.

but unfairly? doesnt sound right. The husband wants her in a good mood, she wants candy....*sigh*

 

Sounds like "I guess" to me. Not getting a firm answers makes me suspicious that I'm being conned to end up doing more work.

 

How about probly, instead of probably?

 

I have done something similar and it irritated the board I was on. I would excessively say, "prolly".

 

I need to add to this as it is fresh in my mind.

Someone used "Thats true" in a very common way.

They made a substantial declarative statement that was full of incorrect facts to a young lady. So me being me, corrected them with accurate facts to the lady. Then they chimed in with THAT"S TRUE
Both my eyes are now stuck in my forehead because I rolled them too hard.

 

Difficulties in *seeing* now? :-D

 

no, when you have lived with double vision for 14 years and cataracts for 6 months and now are only able to read out of one eye, no I see just fine..
oh, you were making a joke? oh, ha ha:-D

 

"In working order when last used" is a phrase that is used a lot in auctions I go to, Hell everything was in working order when last used, even me.
Wal

 

nice one, goes along with

"it was in the last place I looked"

 

Well, sometimes reality offends some people, and sometimes you need to explain life to them. When faced with a circumstance where reality might offend a person, do you lie, or 'offend' them with reality?

Punching someone in the face is physical assault. Most likely to get you put in jail.

:-D

Sorry if I offended you. )

 

that's why I don't punch people, with all do respect?:wave

 

With all due respect, punching people verbally or in writing is not acceptable either, unless it is royally deserved.

 

acceptable? who is trying to be accepted? do I come off as a guy who strives to fit in with others?
besides, if I want to punch someone, it's always royally deserved:innocent]



no offense!!

 

I understand that, but along those lines, (unlike what Adrynalyne thimks) I don't strive to "not fit in", I am 99% of the time polite, always(cept at the gym) well groomed....LOL that's it! instead of using the word, "train/training" which Adrynalyne thinks only applies to lesser animals. The word to use is "groom".
"you groom people to treat you how you want to be treated"

That's very much the type of phrase used by professionals to avoid any direct answers.
After several weeks of working to walk again, I asked my doctor, when will I walk again?" Thinking that as the head of the TBI rehab wing, he'd have some averages to look at.
"There is no guarantee you'll walk again"....Seems stick to the negative extreme is safe....except for that one episode of House MD, where Wilson told a patient he'd die of cancer and he didnt die and the guy had 2 farewell parties,cashed his IRA and caught AIDS....
I'm fuzzy on the details and the name of the episode...

 

Ehh.. no. It doesn't matter how you mean it, the connotations of those two words always refer to animals. People aren't animals, you don't groom them, you don't train them.

The saying is "you treat people how you want to be treated". You want to be treated with kindness and respect, then YOU treat people with kindess and respect. You wanted to treat people like a jerk because "you're not trying to fit in", don't be surprised when people treat you like a jerk.

It's simple basic common decency.

 

So you've groomed everyone to treat you like crap-D

I hear the word groom it means an adult grooming a child sexually and they're not good stories.

Guide, teach, mentor:confused

I've stopped buying your accidentally choosing these words.

EDIT I'm going leave you guys to it.

 

Disagree about the training of people. Weight training, gun training, job training, on the job training, we train people all the time.

Off to groom the dog.

 

+1 to common decency :cool
I totally agree with you Dy :cool and this is one of the key values I have impressed on my children
Dy, you've nailed it in one :-D

 

That's it in a nutshell Dy. Leaving off the (bolded) part of the sentence intentionally or not, makes it totally different, makes its meaning almost abusive.

 

To me that sounds like training to perform a task which is not the same as training people to change their character to be the way you want them to be. That would be manipulative. Darn so difficult for me to explain it properly.

 

eh?
no one in my life treats me like crap, I'm not sure why you came up with that.
no one treats me like crap,because those who try, get whacked with a newspaper and that ends that!

 

so you don't think you can train/groom people to treat you a way you like? I'm not talking about strangers/people you have little interaction with.
I do prefer the word "Train" to "groom", but both work, as you can "groom" someone to take over a business.
That's a way I've heard it used.

 

who is talking about changing anyone's character?
I don't see that anywhere in this thread and it is not what I am talking about.

I'm simply talking about getting people to act a certain way towards you when they deal with you.
I thought the word, "manipulative" was good, but a little to "evil" sounding. Yes, we are on the same page it seems as I thought I explained it well using examples.

Do you consider it manipulative to wear a suit/tie to a job interview? or is that what you've learned is the proper thing to do to reach your goal of getting a job?
The mom I referenced in this thread(the one who would countdown from 5 and her child did what she asked), told me a story of a mom who had 3 kids. 2 of the kids rarely never got their way, the 3rd often did.
This was because the 2 kids routinely yelled/used harsh tones with their mom. The 3rd usually would use soft tones, never raise his voice.
the 3rd got what he wanted, usually.
Was this because he was manipulated by his mom to talk nice to get what he wanted?
was he trained to use a talk nice to get what he wanted?
did the mom groom him to talk nice?

He was trained, either by himself, being smart enough to know nice=what he wants. Or unintentionally by his mom to talk nice meant getting what he wants.




Back on the topic of this thread

I used to find it frustratng when I'd explain or say something and a person would respond with, "what"
They weren't being inquisitive, they heard what I said, but they were using "what" to buy time to think or it was a knee-jerk response as a sort of power play.
Now, I don't get frustrated, I either say,"you heard me" or I'm just quiet and then they respond after they have time to process what I said.

 

Wachntv, you just love to continuously stir the pot just to prove you're right, don't you?

 

Originally Posted by dyamond
The saying is "you treat people how you want to be treated".


"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" – Golden Rule (Matthew 7:12)

Very important in your relationship with those around you in life and on-line.

 

huh?
humans are animals

go back and look at my example about kids

so if that isnt training, what do you call that? grooming? manipulation?


or open a bible:

Proverbs 22:6

King James Version (KJV)

6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.