Please help the Kestrel before she goes mad!

Kestrel13! · Nov 23, 2014

My lovely computer which gives me no grief has suddely started to misbehave. (Win 7 32 bit) It started to lag when I'm editing my pictures with editing software and when I post them on the net. It's giving me this error which makes firefox go all funky so I have to end it's process and start again.

I have updated the driver already. So not sure what the issue is!!!

TimW · Nov 23, 2014

Does the same error occur in all browsers?

sexyandy81 · Nov 23, 2014

is your graphics card overlocked if it is this error is common as it's telling you its unstable and you need to lower the settings on the graphics card

Kestrel13! · Nov 23, 2014

We don't have a graphics card, it's all onboard APU, but we also suspect it may have "cooked" at some point. No Tim, not bothered trying different browser yet. Will do just to check that but I reckon knowing my luck my mobo or HD is on way out. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

Imandy Mann · Nov 23, 2014

Get a brush and a can of air and clean all inside before you write if off.

Kestrel13! · Nov 23, 2014

Already have. Was FIRST thing to do. And pulled everything out of it's socket...and reseated it just to be sure. And did so EARTHED.

And yes Tim, all browsers crash...

theefool · Nov 23, 2014

Have you checked your event viewer? Mostly system and application for any major errors?

Spad · Nov 24, 2014

Have you tried down-grading the video driver? Perhaps the most recent version is not playing nice with your hardware configuration.

I've had that happen before . . . it was an older board though.

Kestrel13! · Nov 24, 2014

theefool said: ↑

Have you checked your event viewer? Mostly system and application for any major errors?
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Good suggestion! What I DID do last night was run a CHKDSK and I looked in the event viewer after reboot but no chkdsk log showing in that "source" tab at all, nothing anywhere relating to chkdsk, so I'll poke around in there for other errors, see if it gets us any closer to nailing the true issue. Thanks.

Kestrel13! · Nov 24, 2014

Spad said: ↑

Have you tried down-grading the video driver? Perhaps the most recent version is not playing nice with your hardware configuration.

I've had that happen before . . . it was an older board though.
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Hmm, don't really wanna do this as the computer was being awful before the upgrade too...

I'm scared to death of losing all my Mycophotography!!! Must back up everything today because I really do have the worst luck... :-D

mjnc · Nov 24, 2014

Before doing a video driver install or update, the current driver should be removed / uninstalled, then reboot.
I think it's important to remove all traces before another install.

After the removal, I'd first reinstall the original driver and see how that goes.

If still no good, remove that and then install the new driver.
Are you sure that you have the right one for your hardware ?

Kestrel13! · Nov 24, 2014

Ruled out HD and driver as being at fault. So it's either the CPU or the motherboard...

the mekanic · Nov 24, 2014

Have you tried a RevoUninstall of the ATI drivers, and clean installing the new driver?

How about a check of the RAM?

I've seen bad sticks make an OS misbehave.

Kestrel13! · Nov 25, 2014

Ok guys, question: Before having to go thru the whole torture of a mobo swap out can anybody recommend any diagnostic software to assist in determining whether it is the board as the cause... ?

My board:

http://www.ebuyer.com/406371-gigaby...-channel-audio-matx-motherboard-ga-f2a55m-ds2

Spad · Nov 25, 2014

About the best overall system utility I have used is this:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/ultimate_boot_cd_(ubcd).html

With it you can do memory tests, CPU stress tests, system stess tests, lots of other hardware utilities . . . Pretty sure there is/are some video tests as well. Been a while since I've had to use it, but it's a good place to start when trying to nail down a possible hardware issue. All kinds of good utilities.

Takes some getting used to . . . a lot of the utilities don't have intuitive GUIs, but everyone should have this in their toolbox.

More info about it, along with recent additions and changes:

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/history.html

I don't doubt there are other good diagnostic utilities here, too.

Kestrel13! · Nov 25, 2014

OK so far after running more tests (excluding artefacts) I don't know my man is doing it all :-D We think it IS bad RAM. Hope so anyway!

DOA · Nov 25, 2014

Kes, if you do go Mad, please create a new account so we can tell you two apart.

Seriously, I do see that error a LOT on systems. Very common when overclocking new systems. Fairly common with new game installs. Unfortunately I cannot offer any single solution. Sometimes I change resolution, sometimes more cooling, more video card voltage, move the video card slot have all worked. The problem is that the video driver does not know why it crashed.
Usually Furmark will bring up the error more than anything else so I run it a lot for tests.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/furmark.html
I was hoping Folding would bring up the error but Folding restarts too gracefully and I don't see it.

Kestrel13! · Nov 25, 2014

Kes, if you do go Mad, please create a new account so we can tell you two apart.
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I think I'm almost insane already!!

Thanks DOA, I'll get my other half to look at this and give furmark a try. The whole thing is driving me nuts. I'm reliant on my computer for so much and it's getting in the way of editing my mushroom pictures. LOL

Attached picture is some chondrostereum purpureum that I mistook for bleeding tooth fungi, but that's another topic completely...

Kestrel13! · Nov 25, 2014

Fella says NO. We don't want to overheat. He says the computer seems to be able to hit 86C just by looking at the 3D BIOS.

TimW · Nov 25, 2014

Are you saying it is overheating? Can you open the case and point a fan at it?

Kestrel13! · Nov 26, 2014

It's over heated in the past, Tim yes. We are currently throttling the CPU to 75% (whatever the hell that means LOL) Until such time as we can afford liquid cooling and a graphics card...

Kestrel13! · Dec 2, 2014

Well, we backed everything up of mine and my other half wiped the whole thing, reinstalled Windows 7 and I had a brand new lovely smoothly running computer for all of about 2 days.........

The dreaded error is back. I am on COMPLETELY different hardware by the way, guys. Apart from my HD, but please let's not all pounce on that yet.

Does this thread belong here in software or in hardware? How the hell would I even know at this point. What am I going to do to have an up and running computer which doesn't keep taking craps on me like this?? Oh I'm beside myself with worry... :cry

Kestrel13! · Dec 2, 2014

This HAS to be a software problem.

DOA · Dec 2, 2014

You are probably right, but lets be sure.
Take the side or lid off of your case, put a big room fan blowing into and across the insides. It can be a foot or two away, but be sure the fan is blowing hard into the case. This usually masks any heat problems. I am reiterating what Tim suggested....

See if this makes any difference at all.

Kestrel13! · Dec 2, 2014

Is there not any easy way to just monitor the temperatures on the screen?

Kestrel13! · Dec 2, 2014

I should also mention I have ONBOARD graphics, so no card...

Kestrel13! · Dec 2, 2014

And.... hate to keep adding but I cannot edit in this forum. I am now using safe mode with networking and am looking at pictures on facebook and looking at a few of mine. I am NOT getting that dreaded error in this mode. This is important information for you to know.

Will do what DOA suggested to tomorrow or later.

Eldon · Dec 2, 2014

Kestrel13! said: ↑

Is there not any easy way to just monitor the temperatures on the screen?
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I have just downloaded the free, portable version of HWMonitor. It shows all the temperatures.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/hwmonitor.html

Kestrel13! · Dec 2, 2014

Thanks! We actually found that and grabbed it after posting, it does a very good job. What we are currently doing is installing a graphics card we managed to get hold of....

the mekanic · Dec 2, 2014

Something just popped in my head. Did you add any hardware to the system, or swap any since the install? I remember having a similar issue with a card swap. I rolled out a Radeon4850 for a 7870. Uninstalled everything, shut down and swapped the card. Installed fresh drivers and software for the upgraded card, and had nothing but trouble. The cure ended up being a full W7 reinstall.

The machine has run flawlessly ever since.

Kestrel13! · Dec 3, 2014

From post #22

The dreaded error is back. I am on COMPLETELY different hardware by the way, guys.
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- completely diff Hardware except HD.

the mekanic · Dec 3, 2014

So, does the HDD have an older install of Windows prior to the current hardware, and was originally mapped to the previous hardware?

Kestrel13! · Dec 3, 2014

the mekanic said: ↑

So, does the HDD have an older install of Windows prior to the current hardware, and was originally mapped to the previous hardware?
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To be honest I cannot remember which of the two drives was the master and the slave before, but both come up clean on scan disk and both were fully formatted before a clean install of Windows.

Kestrel13! · Dec 3, 2014

The CPU has now been throttled to 65%, a graphics card is in...and not had error since. Thermal paste on the way!!!

the mekanic · Dec 3, 2014

Kestrel13! said: ↑

The CPU has now been throttled to 65%, a graphics card is in...and not had error since. Thermal paste on the way!!!
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