Downgrade IE 11

Hi All,
How do I downgrade from IE11 to IE10 or IE9 in the simplest non techie form possible like using third party software?

Adobe flashplayer is not compatible with 11 and I am using Chrome.

IE cannot be uninstalled as it is a system program.

 

I looked up answers on Microsofts website and found through varying topics that I wasn't the only person having issues with Internet Explorer which I enjoy using but no longer can. IE is still usable but not for what I would like it to be which is that all in one do as I say or expect program.

The answers for downgrading seemed to vary so I said to myself let me try on here and see what you all would say.

I have experimented and gotten my fingers burned before like all occasionally practicing techies.

I do have Flash installed somehow but for viewing video's on the likes of Facebook is still a problem so I am using Chrome.

Still would like to get to the bottom of IE though if anybody has knowledge of this.

I am not asking anybody to practice and find out the answers for me.

Cheers.

 

Google chrome is disabling NPapi support which includes adobe flash and unity you have to use pepperflash built in (Version 45 onwards).

Mozilla Firefox has temporary disabled flash but you can click and play due to a vulnerability in the adobe flash player.

Hope this helps

 

If using Firefox you can set it to always ask whether to use flash on a web page or not. So it's available if you feel you really need it but it doesn't activate automatically. That's the best solution at present.

 

Has anyone seen a direct reference to what is the exact vulnerability in Flash or does anyone happen to know off hand?

Is it Flash cookies or that and something else?

I would like to understand why other players are supposedly better in security terms, but I would also like to comment that I feel that Flash is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to security vulnerabilities associated with the internet. In this light, bashing Adobe for Flash or removing Flash player from use on popular sites seems to me like dropping a bomb on the dam to stop a leak (in the overall sense). Seriously, where does this stop? We can't secure PCs so just shut down the internet? Technically, Flash is a fine player, and Adobe deserves more credit than they get or have gotten to date for that. However, where are the minds working on securing PCs and Flash? All we get is a substandard substitute for Flash and that's all? Is this the best security the idea men of the PC industry can come up with?

Personally, I am extremely weary of hearing that things can't be done, when I know they can be done (and will be ultimately). Unfortunately, it seems that not enough bright individuals are working to secure PCs. At any rate, there is a hell of alot of money being left on the table by decision makers who apparently have no solutions for the challenges of the internet and who seem hell bent to rid the earth of the best elements of computing.

I'm not going to say "I told you so" to those who jump on the bandwagons of pointless change when all your comments about what couldn't be done have been proven wrong. However, I am sure that alot of good people will someday be counting the big piles of money that they earned from proving that Flash can be secured and the internet and PCs can be used securely. I don't know when this will happen, I admit, but it will happen...

Vent complete...:major

 

It's just another security vulnerability (there are normally 5 a month or more) and the permanent fix is in place (HTML5). We are just waiting for the slow and the lazy to adopt it. Flash Player is a sieve of an application, like Acrobat and Reader, and there won't be many sysadmins or developers who actually miss their passing. There's the problem with proprietary software, the security is done by companies who's objective is to make money... not make secure software from the outset.

HTML5 on the other hand is not an application that can be exploited in the same way, it is a markup language rather. The data is transcoded by your browser rather than by a 3rd party application with financial interests in keeping you using that plugin.

Once HTML5 becomes commonplace hackers will bend their minds to creating previously unknown vulnerabilities in it though. But at this point it looks like the dream come true.

(ps: you can let the daydream of big bags of money and secure Flash go now)

 

TsVk...

Not to denegrate your viewpoint by any means, because I understand where you are coming from. It's not like problems with Flash just crept up on Adobe...that's for sure (like 15 years worth of issues). However, I have some serious reservations about the trend. Not that I am attached to Flash in that I don't care what video player runs video on the net per se. That said Flash renders in a way I prefer to HTML5 as far as the video quality goes. I do want to get that out of the way.

What I don't get is how money has anything to do with security. What the HTML5 people aren't getting paid? I don't believe that. Also, if Adobe has any interest in Flash being on computers (money-wise), then all the incentive is there for them to come up with a solution. It just doesn't make sense to me as anything but that they can't think of a way to get it done.

For sure, Adobe may have waited longer (maybe way longer) than they should to get serious. Maybe they waited too long, idk, but I have always felt in the past that Adobe was being abused in that the app is completely free. For so long, it was the only web player, basically, but did MS offer them $2 a copy to include it with Windows? No they didn't. Maybe it was security issues going all the way back to the 90s that kept that from happening. I guess probably it was just that, actually. But why are we just now getting better security from things like HTML5? We should have raised hell sooner, so we could have choices I feel. At least I am speaking for myself if noone else agrees.

In general, I agree with you 100% about Adobe. I used to install the reader, but I don't bother anymore, partly because of the security holes in the program. And I don't need the worry warts of not knowing what Adobe is gathering from my PC any more than anyone.

We have all I feel tolerated too much from Adobe and from all developers, and I feel it's time that we find a way to speak as a group (PC owners). I mean, you say HTML5 is the permanent solution in one breath and then that hackers will break it, too, in another breath. So what's next to go? Internet browsers at all? I hope not, because I like the internet and all it brings to my life. That said, I don't believe this has anything to do with money being the cause of the demise of Adobe Flash, unless you mean that they aren't even willing to invest the pennies required to secure the program. Maybe so if that is the case. Just seems sad and pointless to me, especially if the higher ups at Adobe are carrying some sort of grudge with MS over not being paid for Flash...:cry:-o

 

I like your way of thinking. I don't realistically think there is a way to "secure" the internet though. End users=victims=money in cyber crims eyes. So unless we all start using DVD's via post to watch our videos again we will always be vulnerable.

It's a moving feast of sorts. We are the prey and the corporations trying to dish us ads and the hackers are the hunters.

Hell isn't raised by making noise with these sorts of security issues, it's by innovation of better products and then end users adaptation of those products. It's really a bottom line $ type decision. I think as more people give code to developing projects (because many many more people are learning to code these days) we will see free software that outstrips these proprietary applications more often.

Until then we can just try to stay at the front of the pack, whilst the wolves feed off the rear.

 

Here are 2 links to answers from Microsoft.

Downgrade from IE11 to IE10.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...indows-7/47801e2b-f08b-47f7-8f44-345a3f445821

Downgrade from IE10 to IE9.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...indows-7/ff7f57cb-10a7-4b53-8828-dfe81b7b578a

NB These instructions are for Windows 7.