Windows 10

I dont want windows 10\
I have windows 7 now, i'd prefer windows XP

how can I stop the popups asking me to download windows 10?

 

Same thing, other words
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/remove-windows-10-upgrade-notifications,news-52025.html

 

The permanent solution that actually works (and can be reversed at any time by making the value '0') is this registry key:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

I used it for several months, since MS is actually forcing it on people. The alleged 'choice' is illusory. I reversed it when I was happy to upgrade.

 

I've got Win 7 installed now and I was looking for KB3035583 (GWX) in the list of updates so I could hide it but, it hasn't reared it's ugly head. I've got Win 10 running on another partition anyway.

 

I have 8.1 and from the beginning I deleted most of Prog~Folders/Windows Apps and blocked the store and all window 8.1 apps from the firewall in/out. I didn't install the huge update last april or may whenever. Some 650 mb so a huge update.I have never seen the icon everyone talks about or been offered any major change to this pc. Maybe I got lucky?

 

It's probably because you have not installed the pre-requisite updates. You don't get offered Win 10 unless you have them. It's mostly a mistake to not install a WU update marked as 'important' - if that 65omb one was marked as such. It is easy to not subscribe to the Win 10 update if it is offered.

 

That 650 MB update is an Update rollup for Win 8.1 (like a Service Pack in XP, Vista and 7). It's important that you get it. But, once it's installed, there will be other important updates that will need to be installed. Unfortunately, MS thinks you must get Win 10, so that KB3035583 (GWX) will show up in the list of updates. Look for it and right-click on it and select Hide Update. If it manages to get installed, it can be uninstalled by going to Programs and Features -> Updates.

 

Silly me! Enterprise versions don't get the free upgrade to Win 10. I'm running Win 7 Enterprise.

 

I still get 2 or 3 each month for 64bit 8.1 and sometimes a couple for IE11 and that's all. I'm good like this. We'll see if MS gets more aggressive in '16. Hope not!

 

Any Windows 8 system needs that 650mb roll up WU update just to stay secure on 8.1. It's actually not directly relevant to Win 10.
There are three types of Windows OS updates - Important, Recommended and Optional. The first should always be applied. Any user will find that advice here on MG and every reputable IT forum. The other two types can be applied with discretion after simply reading the KB number guide page. It's simple. But not getting 'important' updates under the misapprehension they are just there to bug a user is short-sighted.

 

The roughneck approach to this. Remove these and wait for them to come back in Windows Updates (make sure Windows updates is set for "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them"). Once they are back, hide them one by one:

Windows 7
KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: October 2015 more info
KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: September 2015 more info
KB3050265 Windows Update Client for Windows 7: June 2015 more info
KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: August 2015 more info
KB2902907 MS Security Essentials/Windows Defender related update [no description/information available]
KB3068708 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry more info
KB3022345 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry more info
KB2952664 Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7 more info
KB2990214 Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 7 to a later version of Windows more info
KB3035583 Update installs Get Windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 more info
KB3021917 Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance improvements more info
KB3046480 Update helps to determine whether to migrate the .NET Framework 1.1 when you upgrade Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 more info
KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 more info
KB3080149 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry more info

Next turn off Customer Experience Improvement tasks in task scheduler:

Task Scheduler->Task Scheduler Library->Microsoft->Windows->Customer Experience Improvement Program->disable all tasks in the list

Task Scheduler->Task Scheduler Library->Microsoft->Windows->Application Experience->disable all tasks in the list

This has buttoned things up for me so far...<-

PS special thanks to Earthling for the updates list and Eldon for the pointer on the tasks...

 

AtlBo - thanx Also Earthling and Eldon- I had been looking for that old thread and hadn't any luck. I copied the list here since I do have a seven machine that I'd like to keep that way. And MaxT I will look for that registery key on the '7 also. Thanks.

 

Imandy Mann...

No problem. I forgot to mention that you can turn off Customer Experience Improvement in Group Policy too. Here is the info on that:

http://www.trishtech.com/2010/09/turn-off-customer-experience-improvement-in-windows-7/

BTW, you might like to bookmark this site. 100 pages of topics (about 6 articles per page) with in depth information on everything to do each of the versions of Windows. The search at the top will get you to any topic on the site, and the info is remarkably clear and detailed. It's a great reference...

 

It's not there on 7 or 8, you have to create it as a regedit entry on any system that is within the Win10 update offer if you do not want the update.
But long before you do that, you should first ensure that your system has all the required 'important' updates, preferably in date order. It needs to be done carefully or you may experience avoidable problems.

 

Yeah I've seen that during searches for several update kb's. I have also seen in MS's own topics where some labeled as important are then described as optional. And tho MS has said to deny future updates if certain kb's aren't installed I still get kb labeled as security updates for 64bit without the controversial update. Any major update offered, I wait a while to see what the conversation leads to. My machine works well and I don't want it hosed up by an install.

I have seen their directions on how to fix a hosed updates on major kb also and most describe doing a patch. If a update puts a system in a reboot loop continuously - how do you patch it.

I'm going to be careful with all my pc's now because I believe from here on out "All roads lead to 10".

 

The registry fix to disable the Win10 OS upgrade is one that has to be created. It's not there by default. For someone not afraid to carry out registry entries, it is by far the simplest way to avoid an upgrade to Windows 10 and nothing MS try to do will work to override it. The initial Win 10 upgrade road map can be delayed by simply not installing updates that are preparing for it.
I've not experienced any problems on 7 or 8 or 8.1 (apart from the one that messed up sfc/ scannow) with updates marked as 'important', and I've only installed 'recommended' and 'optional' when I have read what the specifics are and judged they are relevant to my system, and always create my own restore points before doing them. Never had a solitary issue with that.
Some users think that occasional problems with accepted updates that mess something up is MS actively trying to annoy people. It isn't. There will always be some issues when upgrading many 100s of millions of systems. And it is true that all roads lead to Windows 10, but only if you allow it. It wont if you don't.
But anyway, I'm using 10 now on 3 systems that were 8.1 and apart from slight - very slight - differences in GUI I think it's a decent OS. But I am glad I waited 5 months.

 

The first sentence should be clarified. If someone hasn't already installed the preparatory updates for Win 10, then the OS upgrade registry entry is not there. But has to have its value modified if someone is just wanting to stop the further steps to upgrade.

 

Sorry I like Widows 10 and its browser Edge it asks for a lot of personal information but you can go to settings and un tick a lot of the question
Now I am going to get a lot of peeps not agree with me .

 

I don't think so, but if you do just ignore them. I only wish I had kept some of the stuff that was said about XP in its early days, but nowadays from some folk you would think it was the ultimate OS. I like 10 too, and 8.1 and 7. Fact is it doesn't make a huge difference which you use.

You could take a look at O&O ShutUp 10. You can stop 10 being quite so inquisitive.

 

I have one Win 10 box that I like, the rest went back to 7. Too many problems doing normal routine things, Win 10 is still in development, especially in the drivers.

But ask yourself this - how will MS make money on Win 10?
Have you read the "Windows as a service" plan?
Why is Win 10 a free upgrade - unless you want Enterprise?

 

Thanks will do

 

Just hope Bill Gates is in a good mood LOL but you could be right but in the future you could be charged for it

 

There really is no market for income from an Operating System - outside of Businesses - any more. MS recognise that by making Win 10 free to all non-business users already on Win 7 and up. MS have already made plain in their plans - with Win 10 being automatically updated as an when - that it is likely to be the last 'totally new' OS anyway, it will just be updated/upgraded.
And no one else charges for OS upgrades any more, not Apple, not Android, not Google Chrome, and not even MS on Windows Phones.
And PC sales - as opposed to tablet/notebook/laptop/smart - are plummeting.
And MS has never made much money from OS sales as a proportion of its turnover.

 

Thanks for Info

 

OK, I will spell it out - Windows 10 will make you a Bing customer.
Bing data is sold for BIG BUCK$
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/16/8227847/how-microsoft-makes-money
http://searchenginewatch.com/sew/news/2417743/bing-data-reveals-purchase-powerful-audience#

 

Not necessarily. All you have to do is dump Cortana and the Bing search engine.

 

I got lost in this thread about 6 posts in
I am not installing windows 10, I hitting, "later" when I get asked to update my computer
I don't understand what you mean an update forces me to get windows 10
I'm thinking about installing windows XP to my computer, just cause I like its search capabilities best

 

Thanks

 

Call me crazy but, I actually like Windows 10 — after a clean install of it that is — I didn't like what going the update route did with my desktop apps but they all work just fine in Win 10 after the clean install (and re-installing the desktop apps, of course).

 

If you definitely do not want Win 10, then why not simply do this regedit to permanently disable any Win 10 upgrade???
If you do this you will never ever again be bothered by a Win 10 upgrade prompt.

 

Because that only stops the initial onslaught, there are Win 7 updates that hurt Win 7. Supposedly to prepare you for Win 10, no way MS would hurt a previous OS.

 

The registry edit stops an OS upgrade, period. That is what the OP has said they want. They haven't said anything broader.
As far as preparatory OS updates for Win 10, I never seen them labelled 'important', so they don't need to be installed.
It's that simple.

 

Just 1, there are quite a few listed in the staying with Win 7 thread
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...c/628119a7-0db1-4b2b-a0c1-d44794ed1e82?auth=1

 

No one says MS doesn't serve updates that cause a problem - like that one you quote a full two years ago.
But I don't see the relevance to this thread. If someone wants for sure to stop their OS (whether 7 or 8) being upgraded to 10 just needs to do the simple regedit.

Whether or not they should have to do that, and whether or not MS should be trying to force users to upgrade (which they are) is neither here nor there. It's a fact. But that's a philosophical discussion.

 

I can't find that registry key item. Regedit Search can find "update" only for Foxit not Windows.

Also, when I manually update, it says, "Downloading Windows 10" but I was careful what I selected to install. In fact, Windows 10 was not listed for any of the packages.

 

You need to explain more clearly what exactly you are talking about and by reference to exactly which post in this thread you are referring to.

 

plodr,
Thanks for covering my butt and tracking down that post.
I created the key and set it to 1.
I may want to upgrade to 10 but when I am ready.
My concern is, when I ran Windows Update yesterday there were 82 items but none looked like Windows 10. So I clicked "install" and the screen changed to "Downloading Windows 10". I started the question to post here and got concerned about that message so I stopped the download but it seems 14 or so installed before I got it stopped.
Today I reports 68 updates are available and when I click "install" the screen still changes to "Downloading Windows 10".
I just thought, maybe I need to reboot for the registry change to take effect.
I'll try that and report the results.

But in the mean time, do those of you that run "Windows Update" and click "Install" get the "Downloading Windows 10" message of something else?

Thanks
Pete

 

The reboot didn't help.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate DisableOSUpgrade=1
But when I click Install Updates I get the "Downloading Windows 10" message.

 

As long as the registry entry is set correctly even though you see that 'downloading windows 10' message it is not actually happening because the reg entry stops it. You will then find only the other updates will be applied.

 

Thanks MaxTurner. That helps me believe that I wasn't actually installing Win 10.
But I followed plodr's instructions and ran GWX Control Panel to disable everything I could. When I click Install I no longer get the "Downloading Windows 10". It just says Downloading Updates.

That makes me feel even better.
Thanks for all the help.
Pete