Uk's Eu Referendum Vote Today

It sounds like they will start calculating your vote at 22:00 tonight (around 4pm EST).

I was having dinner with a friend last night who is married to a guy from the UK. He just flew back yesterday and will be arriving today. He just became a US citizen, so I doubt he gets to vote, but his dad is still over there.

I would imagine it's pretty emotional there. We were in Scotland 2 years ago when they had their vote and I have to say it was incredibly interesting being there.

I wish you all well. I don't have an opinion on it, but was reading about it this morning. I found this BBC article that does a good job of simply explaining it in case anyone is interested: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

 

Well, if I'm reading this correctly, it doesn't even look close as of now?

http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results


I suppose that's a very small number of the vote. It looks like the exit polls are showing a much more balanced result.

 

I wanted to stay in, I think my best buddy sums it up completely, I'll quote:

"I feel beyond sad. I really cannot visualise this so called bright future. All I can see at the moment is the day we ripped ourselves apart, a near 50/50 divide is not something to be celebrated. This is the day that we abandoned those who need us most, the poor and the disabled, the day we sent our NHS into free fall, the day we destroyed our environment and the day we handed our futures to greedy people like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage who have no thought or care for people like myself, my family or my friends and indeed about 99% of those who voted alongside them. Scotland will become independent and the thought of what this could mean for Northern Ireland fills me with dread. Two countries decided to remain and yet they are being ripped out by the other two who decided to leave, this is not a good day for the UK"

 

AH hello USA friends you may have this on Nov with Trump, hope not as I would vote for Hills, but besides that I voted OUT of the EU and coming from a Gov agency background and current working I just felt the EU was overbearing and "lawmakers" should be from the sovereign country and not a coffee clatch! the USA would not like Canada to say you cannot do this or that or fine you for having gas guzzling cars? (just a random example) so we should not too.

I voted out not for migration although we should have measured immigration (points system) to those we need to fill jobs out population cannot, in my area that's doctors and with the EU its become harder for Commonwealth countries (we have more affinity with those then the EU) to enter the UK, was chatting to a collogue today and she is from Pakistan and a great doctor and specialises in Ophthalmology like me, and she found it hard to enter the UK unlike some from EU without passing the English tests she did. Tier 3 UK visa due to EU regulations is stopping the best and brightest from the UK, I dont care were you are from but just work and contribute to jobs we cannot fill as we have done since the 40s

Lies from the EU and threats also prompted me out, weird thing I woke upto at 5am was Wales voting out a Labour party bastion! Scotland and SNP well less said the better as if they go independent they have no money to pay dues to EU as OIL revenues are rock bottom, so only way is to tax the crap out of the Scots population.

The Eu is going for TTIP and that will kill the NHS in the UK as it brings in US private providers and that scares me as an NHS employee and researcher,

The Stocks dropped and was always going to happen as brokers were up all night speculating on a fall so bet on that plus the inevitable rise and they made a killing but the ordinary folk think its bad... its money and stock market hoohaa the bounce back was not too bad and nothing worse than we had in the markets in Feb 2016.

The future for the UK is well up in the air and we need good leadership to get us were we want to be and I gather from press Sweden, France, Hungary and Italy all want referendums in EU club??? I can just say Merkel and her immigration policy and Junkers not willing to deal was the downfall.

 

Emma NI and ROI the border was open since 1921 and way before the EU, this will not change its a scare tactic, I was in Belfast 2 weeks ago and they are not worried or should I say the folk I work with as I dont know all the population of NI

 

Sadly the BBC these days is leftist and bias so not the best to read, need to read both left and right of politics to get a good ideas and be as sad as me and watch the debates in parliament and read EU regs, in health I need to for some studies I work on and the red tape is massive! BBC used to be good and its comedy and drama is still good news not so much.

 

Katy is Irish, this is just how she feels, her Father said "Bullets and Bombs" as soon as he heard the outcome of the result.

 

• The pound will be worth less abroad, foreign holidays will cost us more.
• Higher inflation, food, clothes costing us more.
• Interest rates will rise.
• It will change the economy, affecting investment decisions and jobs.
• And all that extra money that the Leave campaign claims would flow into the NHS and cheaper energy bills would not be available for some time...
• Wildlife countryside laws.. European law is what protects our most threatened/ important wildlife and habitats from development. UK government had said that they would favour a relaxation of this protection if we left to aid in speeding up development.
• In addition, a massive, and i mean MASSIVE, proportion of the money spent on UK conservation is funded through the EU!

 

That's all I'm going to say on the matter... back to photography and malware removal...

 

Pound like all currencies are fluctuating and its bounced back a small way from the initial hit, like the stockmarket, was down 400 points now at -199 which is still higher in the topline rate from Feb 2016 at over 6000 points, interest rates are a pro and con as low is good for mortgages (but some to take advantage and buy past their affordability so hence negative equity in 2008 crash of the sub prime mortgage area) then a higher rate is good for savers, I remember when before 2008 my ISA was getting 6% now 1.5% at best, so swings and roundabouts. As I said the only folk making money out of this are the brokers, they bet on a loss and a bounce back and they are the ones controlling this.

While extra monies for NHS etc may not be available for some time, at least it maybe available, if the EU sucked out or cash then its never available.
Environmental laws and actually employment laws were more UK ones not EU based ones, we lead the way on these from our unions to the Labour party as what were they campaigning for? workers rights and we have the best in the world, they will not change.

The MASSIVE money spent on conservation and EU funds are from where? sneeky this, its from the UK taxpayer and our membership dues to the EU, we are only given back our own money!

I agree with you Max in that when we wanted out of the EEC doom and gloom was predicted and what happened the UK thrived as we will now, yes we will have some uncertainly for a while but if we have strong leadership then dealing with the world over needing to beg at the EU trough for scraps is negated.

 

Well I have just signed this...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

 

Sadly Emma thats not going to happen as democracy has spoken for once in the past 40yrs, if we did this for every election we didn't like as a country we would collapse, just say I didn't like Corbyn as labour leader and Khan as Major of London, I want another vote on these? if we did fall for this knee jerk reaction on new votes then the country would descend into a spiral of worse financial issues than a blip that was not as bad as predicted in the markets as we had Friday.

73% of the population spoke and more outers were in Labour controlled areas, so says a hell of a lot for the so called working class (I dont like the class system), whereas past general and locals only had 53% turnout, so this was a really representation of the thoughts of the population.

 

We will see... people have been known to come to their senses (You know I luv ya Dave, this is just a healthy bit of debate)

 

I know Emms (smiles), its been the best part of this referendum is that more folk have been discussing politics as they have never done before, I watch a lot of BBC Parliament (have no life) debates, plus in part I need to know laws be then UK or EU or world for the research studies I work on as we work on global basis, at times the red tape is a nightmare until you get specific approvals like MRHA, FDA, EUREC etc

Really dont think we would go this route as we would have in the Scotland vote last year, the country would have worse economic outcome if we did call a new vote as the markets would collapse and the EU would have us over a barrel for many concessions as they will say you voted out, you cannot come back now without accepting these conditions and they will be much worse than we have or had now.

I'm awaiting the US vote in Nov... that's going to be one I will stay up for, think the UK leaving the EU is news, Trump in the WH, now thats a global change in financial markets, come October the stories will be around of financial gloom and doom if Trump wins.

 

Bernard it as you state a choice we have made it and immigration is part of the issue but its measured immigration so like I was talking to a Pakistani doctor I work with and she had to go through many checks for for basic English language whereas a geek doctor didn't and could not speak good English. The Tier 3 access is a nightmare for those we need in our public services. I agree with you also in that republicans and TRUMP will see a surge in votes, I also see many countries wanting out and Greece, France, Italy, Hungary, Sweden are a few.

 

Ain't gonna happen.. shouldn't happen.

 

It does...

 

Exactly and as the UK Ltd we could not do a trade deal with AUS on our own without the EU backing, then 27 others want their slice of the pie and differing deals so NO deal is ever done, China this week said dealing with the EU is a nightmare and far rather now deal with UK alone, as many other countries can and the Commonwealth is a HUGE trading block that the UK should be dealing with without EU interference.

 

How are the feelings about Brexit now? Has it changed at all?

 

No nothing has changed as we are not yet out of the EU, article 50 has to be signed then we have 2yrs to negotiate out terms, TBH they will be good as the EU cannot afford not to deal with the UK, but for us the vote out already has spurred on trade deals or negotiations with many countries and China being one big area and they said this HERE

The negative side is some bubbling under the surface racial issues from other nationals, which the press hypes too much as its always been there just sadly more so of late (guess USA has this with shootings) but I had to feel for one of the nurses I work with from Romania who thought she would be deported after the vote out of the EU, thats not the case and portrayed badly by our press, the out campaign always stated that immigration rules would be like Australia and US where we grant visa for those we need to work in say our NHS but the rules would not allow as me do now those that beg on the streets or have no job or support. I did say to her that she needs to ignore the viral press as she works hard and we need folk like her, but the vote was also that we could easily attract workers from global areas more easy than just take any EU citizen, I think we need no matter where you are from the best workers we can get, I just dont care where you are from.

Money markets are up and down as they always are, if you take a 5yr look at the markets things are ok, the short term as the press are calling a crisis is mute, never in finance you take a short term view.... unless you are a broker who made millions betting the markets would fall then rise, they make this shit up really.

Other countries are close to referendums, http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/687410/Germany-EU-referendum-Merkel http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/686379/Hungary-EU-referendum-October-enforced-migrant-quotas

Italy's banks are about to go under http://uk.businessinsider.com/italy...mic-crisis-threatens-europes-stability-2016-7 the Euro as a currency is a dead duck.