Delete Ms Account - I'm A Little Bit Confused

Discussion in 'Software' started by Dekade, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    When I delete (Close) a Microsoft Account does it actually really delete the email account associated with it??? If the answer is yes ... is there any way to save the email account associated????

    I don't understand why the two are connected. Please explain.
     
  2. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

  3. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Why close the Microsoft account? You can keep it open but log into your computer with a local account. Best of both worlds! That's for Win 10. If you are on something else I can't help.
     
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  4. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

    That way works in 8.1 also.
     
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  5. Imandy Mann

    Imandy Mann MajorGeekolicious

  6. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    I do have Win10Pro. I do not want Microsoft knowing my PC administrative password which was a requirement with the rotten Cortana feature in Win10. I already know that other user accounts can be initiated - BUT - that is not my fear. I just don't want Microsoft knowing or having access to knowing my PC Administrative password.

    If my email address was set up in Gmail then why does Microsoft have their nose stuck into the issue?
     
  7. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Convert your account to a local account as already suggested.
    Don't understand. What has Microsoft to do with your Gmail account?
     
  8. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    That is also what I don't understand.
    1. I went through the process of closing the MS account - no problem understanding that procedure
    2. Then at the very end - the process of closing the MS Account then cautions and alerts me to the fact that my email account will be deleted
    3. So, I am taking that to mean that my entire Gmail account will be deleted
    4. That is where I'm getting confused - Does the closing process mean "delete" from the Microsoft Account system and MS cloud ONLY - or - does it mean delete my Gmail email account into total non existence??????
    5. I'm just trying to understand if my entire Gmail account is going to be deleted or not
    This all came about because I was trying to get rid of Cortana on my PC.

    Why was I trying to get rid of Cortana??? Because I was running Tweaking.com - Windows Repair Free 3.9.21 and at the very end of that process the procedure was red lettered at the issue of Cortana being on my PC and couldn't proceed through that part successfully.

    Some internet posts got me confused on removing Cortana. THUS THE CAN OF WORMS OPENED. So, I signed into using Cortana to gain access to some of the menus to delete it. Signing in to using Cortana made me have to enter my PC Administrative password. Thus, along the way of getting rid of Cortana I dropped my guard and entered my Desktop PC Administrative account password into the process. That is what made me mad and upset me. So then I went into the processing of deleting all info from the MS Account and MS cloud so that Microsoft had no data about my password.

    So that leaves me where I am at - not understanding the "closing of the Gmail account".


    I never used Cortana, I never wanted Cortana being my unwanted guide to using my computer, I have never used a cloud service, I never plan on using a cloud service ... I just want close the Microsoft Account, keep my PC password private, and retain my Gmail email account to receive and send emails.
     
  9. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Why do you keep referring to 'Gmail'?? A Microsoft Account is not a a Google 'Gmail' account.
    If you don't want to use a Microsoft account for your system, you do as advised twice already and set up a 'local account'. Microsoft has no connection to Google 'Gmail' account and can't do anything with it.
     
  10. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    I am at this Microsoft web page:
    CMS_03.jpg

    According to the below MICROSOFT instructions on closing an account it appears to me that there is a connection.
    CMS_02.jpg

    EVERYBODY please understand that I have respectfully accepted the forums advice on setting up a local account. I know how to do that and all about it. I am concerned about the full images attached above.
     
  11. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    If you had used a Microsoft Account using a MICROSOFT email address (hotmail, live etc) then yes that account would be closed.
    But when you use a NON-Microsoft email address, nothing happens to it when you stop using it for system log in. The email account remains open with Google.

    The 'closure' process in that screenshot relates to the Windows account, not the email address itself.
     
  12. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    Thank you Max - Do you see why I was confused???? Do you see where I thought I would lose my Gmail address entirely??? The screen shot evidently represents generic propagation of any associated email address (Microsoft or NOT) into the warning - am I correct? Obviously Microsoft would need to consider a better explanation for the closure procedure - like you just did. Please reply to my first two questions after the - Thank you Max.
     
  13. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    I can see why you are confused. But it doesn't matter as your Gmail email account remains available to you to use. But I think we all know that one email provider has no control over the use of an email account of a different provider.
     
  14. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    Thanks for all your help MaxTurner. IMHO - one just never knows about Microsoft, or any of the tech world for that matter, or, what they are all capable of. :)
     
  15. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    If you are now signing in with a local account I would still advise not to cancel your Microsoft account. It gives you access to a range of stuff that you may one day want to use, such as those across the top of this page.
     
  16. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    To the best of my knowledge Skype can be signed into outside of a quote unquote Microsoft account by using an account created in Skype; of which I currently have two accounts created within Skype. Regarding the other stuff at the top - I simply am not interested in those options, never use or buy apps from the store, and am not a social media participant. That said, I do appreciate your caution and suggestion.
     
  17. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    I ask the forum to forgive my obsessive compulsive disorder - of which I know that I fall victim to way too often. I have been an architectural engineer for over 30 years and details are often times my worst enemy. I cannot help who I am. So with saying that up front I ask the forum to forgive my continuing inquiry on the subject matter of this thread. If I annoy anyone please accept my apology. Thanks, Dekade.

    Please look at the attached screen shots. One is from on the web and another is an email directly from the Microsoft team. Both screen shots continue to make me question the results that linger behind the closing of a Microsoft Account. I greatly respect MaxTurner's advice and request his continued participation in this thread; the forum's also. BUT is there any proof that the forum can provide to show me (and others) that my email address would not be deleted from existence. Via the below screenshots it appears theoretically that the email account (separate from the Microsoft Account) would definitely be demolished. Has anyone on the forum actually closed a Microsoft Account, waited the 60 days, and seen the end results of existence versus departure of a non Microsoft email account????

    CMS_04.jpg

    CMS_05.jpg

    I did go back in and reopen the Microsoft Account because at this particular juncture the MS account was actually closed. So, I choose to wait until I can get further assistance from this forum.
     
  18. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    You are worrying about nothing.
    Set up a local account - use whatever email you want for that.
    Your Google GMail account is safe.
     
  19. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It's the Microsoft account that uses the given gmail address that will be closed, not the gmail account - see your last screenshot of the MS account email.
     
  20. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    One final curiosity question before I leave this matter lay as gaining knowledge and experience from the forum ...

    Once Microsoft has a PC's Administrator User login password for the Microsoft Account (as in - when the login password is supplied to Microsoft when setting up Cortana) how safe is that login password???? I realize that nothing is safe these days relative to computers and/or the internet, but, still the same just how predictably safe is a password with the Microsoft Account system?
     
  21. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    It's as safe as any other password.
     
  22. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    Okay. You guys. I said I would end it and I will follow through on that.

    Thanks so much for bearing with my personality. Have a good day - until you see my forum handle pop up on the forum once again.:eek::)
     
  23. satrow

    satrow Major Geek Extraordinaire

    It's only ever as safe as the network(s) it's stored on.
     
  24. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Ask yourself how it is that your Microsoft account comes to have a login ID the same as your Gmail account. Maybe you don't actually recall exactly how but one likely explanation is that when setting up Win 10, when you were asked to provide an email address and a password for your Microsoft account, and in the absence of a better idea you chose to use your existing gmail address. That's OK, any email address will suffice for this purpose, though most people who had an existing Microsoft address - @hotmail.com, @live.com. etc - would probably have chosen to use that rather than a google address. However it is simply a name for the account. It does not provide any access to your gmail unless you were then to go into your Microsoft account and go through the process of connecting your gmail account to it with the intention of dealing with your gmail in your Microsoft account rather than at @gmail.com or however you do currently deal with it. And even if you had done that it would still be no more than a client for your gmail account, and deleting it would not affect your gmail account proper @gmail.com.

    I doubt that you will see my explanation as constituting the proof you are seeking but it's the best I can come up with.
     
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  25. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    Contrary to your doubt I do see what you have said to be convincing proof. You have explained how the account name came about (be it inadvertently or be it intentionally). I greatly appreciate your reply as it has brought back some thought processes that cornered me into creating this head (my head) spinning thread in the first place.:oops:

    Thank you Earthling.
     
  26. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Pleased to have been able to help. With that off your mind now you can have a good night's sleep ;)
     
  27. Dekade

    Dekade Sergeant

    Thumbs Up! ^
     

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