Cpuid Hwmonitor

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by whril, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. whril

    whril Private First Class

    asus desktop running windows 7 home premium 64 bit.
    intel core i7 cpu

    restarted my desktop today and had a high temperature warning. ran cpuid hwmonitor only to discover i am way out of practice on reading results. need some help on what it is that is overheating and what to do about it.

    Temperature.JPG

    please and thank you!

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    whirl
     
  2. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Yeah, those high 70s, 80s and 90s for your CPU are too hot.

    I recommend you start by making sure the interior of the computer, heatsinks, fans, and vents are all clean of heat trapping dust. And make sure all fans spin freely. Be sure you unplug the computer from the wall and touch bare metal of the case interior to discharge any static in your body BEFORE reaching in to clean. Hopefully, a good cleaning is all that is needed.

    Aside from that, I note your +12VDC voltage reading is a little low. 11.59 is still within the allowed ±5% tolerance range of 11.4 to 12.6V, and it not likely to be causing your heat issue. But I would keep an eye on that.
     
  3. whril

    whril Private First Class

    k. will do that tonight. thank you!
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  4. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    No problem and please keep us posted.
     
  5. whril

    whril Private First Class

    i have cleaned the computer. surprisingly it wasn't bad at all. the desktop itself did not warn me of a high temp but the cpuid is telling me it is i think?

    temp2.JPG
    i am deaf so did not hear it but my daughter told me there is a clicking sound. doesn't think it is the hard drive. she thinks it is coming from the direction of one of the fans or the power supply. these are all running.
    what would cause the low voltage reading?
    and what do i do about the over heating. i don't think it would be the heat sink as i just replaced that last year.

    thanks for your help!

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  6. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    What do you mean? Your temps dropped in half to the 40s! That's a huge drop! There is nothing wrong with temps in the 40s. I only start to worry when my CPU temps sit above 60°C for more than a few seconds. So clearly the cleaning did some good.

    As for the clicking, a simple test is to momentarily slow the fan down. Just gently press your finger on the center hub of the fan. If the fan is making the noise, the pitch or frequency of the clicking will change. For fans you cannot reach, ask your daughter to get you one of those wooden sticks the ladies use to jam their cuticles back and use that. Or use a wooden Popsicle/glue stick. Remember to use ESD precautions to avoid damaging nearby ESD sensitive devices with a static discharge.

    Don't worry about the low voltage reading. It is still within the acceptable ±5% tolerance range. Note too the voltage sensors are cheap, low tech devices so it may not even be that low. If it was too low, your computer would not boot or have frequent unexplained shutdowns or reboots. It can be verified with a multimeter, but again, I would not worry about it unless it drops more. Then it is likely the PSU.
     
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  7. whril

    whril Private First Class

    ahhh..... just goes to show i am not reading the program correctly! must practice on that one!

    daughter says the sounds don't change when i press on the fans. one of the fans you can not slow down by pressing the hub tho. if it is not hurting anything then i am not going to worry about it seeing as i can't hear it. :)

    thank you so much for your help! such a simple solution that i should have thought of.

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  8. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I don't understand why not. You should be able to use that wooden cuticle stick if you cannot reach it with your finger. Even if you have to stop the blades.

    That said, if it is not the fan bearings (and slowing the spin rate will reveal that) or the fan blades scraping a wire or the like, then it most likely is a hard drive. You should make sure you have a current backup of anything you don't want lost, regardless.
     
  9. LarryFC

    LarryFC Private E-2

    Does it say which volume was locked? No I assume it is the E: drive that I am saving my Backup to.

    What backup program are you using? I am using Paragon Backup.

    Booting to Safe Mode was my last resort if I couldn’t solve the problem.
     
  10. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

  11. whril

    whril Private First Class

    the fan did not stop or slow by pushing on the hub but i did stop the blades. no difference in the sound. the clicking sound is coming from the back of the case. the hard drive seems to be quiet. if the power supply is failing would it make a noise? seems to be louder at startup and quiets down, tho still a faint a click, as time passes.

    i do have a current backup, and an image of the hard drive on an external.

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  12. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Did you check the fan on the graphics card (if you have graphics card)? Normally clicking sounds are from mechanical devices - those with moving parts. The only moving parts in a PSU is the fan. Capacitors can make noise, but normally it is a whining noise. Transformer can make noise, but that normally is a buzzing sound.

    You may, (or your daughter may) have to stick your head into the open side of the case and see (listen) and try to determine if the sound really is coming from the back of the case. Because hard drives mount firmly to cases and sounds can reverberate through cavernous cases, it is some times hard to pinpoint their origin.

    You sometimes can feel a clicking hard drive if you gently rest a finger on it. Hard drives make that sound when the R/W head keeps banging against the end stops.

    You can also pull the power cord from a drive to see if the clicks stop.
     
  13. whril

    whril Private First Class

    yes i do have a graphics card, and it does have a fan and i never thought to check it. mine bit the dust last year and i threw an older model nvidia geforce in. could very well be the problem. nothing is clicking right now so i will have to check that fan and everything else when i restart.

    thanks for all the suggestions. will let you know when i am able to check everything.

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  14. whril

    whril Private First Class

    it is not the video card fan. your idea on the hard drive being the culprit could be the answer. time will tell. i am prepared if it does fail so no worries.
    thanks again for your help!
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  15. Digerati

    Digerati Major Geek Extraordinaire

    IF? Note that "all" drives "WILL" fail - eventually. So I am glad you are prepared.
     
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  16. whril

    whril Private First Class

    how true! i stand corrected. should be amended to say hopefully it doesn't fail until i have the time to mess with it. but, that never happens does it?
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